View Full Version : The Official Scola Thread
mystargtr34
02-10-2008, 05:25 AM
and congrats on post #1000 wireonfire
ArgSpursFan.
02-10-2008, 08:58 AM
HI everyone,It's been a while since my last post.
Looks like my boy is been balling later,and also and more important:Its good to see ChumpDumper finally has got down to earth with his comments and questions about Scola
Here's why:six months ago He was comparing Scola with Scrubs that never made it in the NBA,and now He's asking how He would do against SHAQ. :lmao the most dominant post player of the last decade in the NBA.
Good for you Chump :tu
BTW, 14 pts(7/9) 9 rbs(1/8)in 25 mins vs. the Hawks.Not bad huh?
ChumpDumper
02-10-2008, 11:15 AM
I always compared Scola to quite a good NBA player. You never realized that when he was doing bad and you were hiding out like a little bitch. You still don't. He's doing about what I thought he could.
:tu indeed.
coldsweat
02-10-2008, 01:31 PM
The man took 50 games to beat out Chuck freakin Hayes
he didn't deserve to start because although his offense was polished from the start, he was fouling on defense and couldn't stay in the game for a long period of time. now that he's learned not to pick up the ticky-tack fouls, and is showing potential on defense (particularly the pick-and-roll), he deserves the starting position. since rookies require an adjustment period (for him it was adjusting to the officiating), you can't really incriminate scola for not starting from the start.
Rainman
02-10-2008, 01:34 PM
The man took 50 games to beat out Chuck freakin Hayes
In the beginning Scola was averaging a foul a minute and even though he was doing many things well, he couldn't stay on the floor. His defense needed a lot of work, so Chuck got the minutes.
Now Scola's defense has improved and why he's still not as good as Chuck, he stays out of foul trouble and the defense does not drop off to drastically with him in the game. While it has been known that Scola is a good offensive player his rebounding has better than expected.
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-10-2008, 02:07 PM
Some NBA fan not realize Euroleague player need time adjust NBA foul call as ref calls game much different. Spanoulis not give chance to adjust by coach but Adelman good coach let Scola adjust.
Spur fan just mad because they not get Scola. He will be the best big player on Spurs after Tim Duncan if they have him. Also I check Rocket team have the 17-5 record last 22 game.
WalterBenitez
02-10-2008, 03:46 PM
Do you think the Grizzlies have an "official Pau Gasol thread" :downspin:
Not the same case, but they should :P
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-10-2008, 04:05 PM
Scola would have help the Spurs get a win tonight
Mr.Bottomtooth
02-10-2008, 04:08 PM
Scola would have help the Spurs get a win tonight
Dwight Howard would've helped us too...
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-10-2008, 04:09 PM
Dwight Howard would've helped us too...
true, but the Spurs didn't own the right of Howard and didn't trade him away for nothing
a little bit of difference there
ArgSpursFan.
02-10-2008, 06:19 PM
[QUOTE]I always compared Scola to quite a good NBA player.
Really??????? :lmao
I'm gonna have to bring back some post of yours in the offseason.
Damn Chump,You make me work kid.
You never realized that when he was doing bad and you were hiding out like a little bitch. You still don't. He's doing about what I thought he could.
:tu indeed.
I never hided,It just happens that I have a life offline,not like you.
As far as Scola's performance in the last 10 to 15 games, you never predicted He was gonna be this good,and guess what?? He'll keep getting better as the time goes by.
Damn,It feels so good to be wright.
whottt
02-10-2008, 07:01 PM
I remain unimpressed with Scola...Adelman's system boosts numbers, everyone knows that.
ChumpDumper
02-10-2008, 07:08 PM
Really??????? :lmao
I'm gonna have to bring back some post of yours in the offseason.
Damn Chump,You make me work kid.Sure go back and find the NBA player I thought he would be most like.
Go ahead.
I never hided,It just happens that I have a life offline,not like you.You only show up when he does well. You are quite the pussy. I have quite a nice life BTW, so you need not make this about me.
As far as Scola's performance in the last 10 to 15 games, you never predicted He was gonna be this good,and guess what?? He'll keep getting better as the time goes by.
Damn,It feels so good to be wright.It feels good to spell "right" right.
But you weren't right, you hid like a bitch whenever he did badly and left it to me to keep the faith on my own. You are pathetic. I'm the real Scola fan here.
I only asked about how he plays against Shaq because that's what we need now. Just like before we needed a long small forward to guard the perimeter and knock down outside shots. Trading a player away for money is never a great thing, but it happens all the time. Had we really needed Scola this season, I would be more upset about it -- but we really didn't.
temujin
02-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Sure go back and find the NBA player I thought he would be most like.
Go ahead.
You only show up when he does well. You are quite the pussy. I have quite a nice life BTW, so you need not make this about me.
It feels good to spell "right" right.
But you weren't right, you hid like a bitch whenever he did badly and left it to me to keep the faith on my own. You are pathetic. I'm the real Scola fan here.
I only asked about how he plays against Shaq because that's what we need now. Just like before we needed a long small forward to guard the perimeter and knock down outside shots. Trading a player away for money is never a great thing, but it happens all the time. Had we really needed Scola this season, I would be more upset about it -- but we really didn't.
When your bigs are Oberto, Elson and Bonner, you need every minute of Scola.
Scola was a sure bet.
The Spurs FO, for all their good moves, blew this one.
Some here -perhaps with a more direct knowledge of the guy- wrote it.
It was a mistake.
Period.
You kept mentioning that he wouldn't find his minutes behind Duncan.
I distinctly remember this, as you are one of the few I read in this forum.
I still think you were asa wrong as the Spurs FO.
For all your good posts.
ChumpDumper
02-10-2008, 07:30 PM
When your bigs are Oberto, Elson and Bonner, you need every minute of Scola.We still would have played Finley and Udoka at PF today.
temujin
02-10-2008, 07:44 PM
We still would have played Finley and Udoka at PF today.
Not sure.
I saw a lot of Oberto in the 4th.
I haven't seen a lot of the Bonner guy that really took his place, lately.
I could see Scola knocking down shots in the fourth quarter, shots that Oberto didn't even consider taking.
Scola is mentally a goto guy in the clutch.
It's like the comments I read about Manu not making the ASG.
"You take Iverson and I take Ginobili and let's see who wins."
I take Scola, you take any of the three.
ChumpDumper
02-10-2008, 08:21 PM
Scola is mentally a goto guy in the clutch.I never really saw that in the big Euroleague games.
Quite the opposite actually.
Scola has a purpose, but don't try to pimp that angle.
manufor3
02-10-2008, 09:13 PM
Scola is mentally a goto guy in the clutch.
He's more of a role player... :fro
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-10-2008, 09:55 PM
He's more of a role player... :fro
who would have been damn perfect fit next to TD (who would be the C like he plays so often)
Spurs could really play an up tempo or half court game with Scola/Duncan/Manu/Bowen/Parker
DaDakota
02-10-2008, 10:05 PM
As a Rockets fan, who respects the Spurs, I really can not believe that the Spurs gave him up for so little.
I do respect Popovich for basically realizing that they could not get Scola over, and that he deserved a chance to play in the NBA....
That was a class move that we Rocket fans appreciate....a lot.
Luis plays with passion, emotion and has a huge B-Ball IQ.....since he moved into the starting lineup at the PF spot, Houston is 6-0 and is averaging 100ppg and giving up only 90.83ppg....
Scola has made all the difference in the world.
Thanks,
DD
jay014
02-10-2008, 10:16 PM
who would have been damn perfect fit next to TD (who would be the C like he plays so often)
Spurs could really play an up tempo or half court game with Scola/Duncan/Manu/Bowen/Parker
For Spurs (Scola) fans. Scola looking for someone to run his fanclub Many positions available (http://www.dormgear.net/help-wanted-metal-sign-pi-146.html)
ChumpDumper
02-10-2008, 10:35 PM
As a Rockets fan, who respects the Spurs, I really can not believe that the Spurs gave him up for so little.The Spurs wanted little in return.
It wasn't much of a basketball decision.
DaDakota
02-10-2008, 11:48 PM
Yes, they wanted little in return, but to avoid the lux tax and the Jackie Butler contract that the Rockets got as a poisen pill in the trade is putting the Rockets into Lux tax land.
DD
Indazone
02-11-2008, 01:03 AM
Spurs wanted to keep Bonner. Lets see how much does Bonner make again? How much is he playing these days? :ROFL
Hemotivo
02-11-2008, 06:56 AM
As a Rockets fan, who respects the Spurs, I really can not believe that the Spurs gave him up for so little.
I do respect Popovich for basically realizing that they could not get Scola over, and that he deserved a chance to play in the NBA....
That was a class move that we Rocket fans appreciate....a lot.
Luis plays with passion, emotion and has a huge B-Ball IQ.....since he moved into the starting lineup at the PF spot, Houston is 6-0 and is averaging 100ppg and giving up only 90.83ppg....
Scola has made all the difference in the world.
Thanks,
DD
:tu
whottt
02-11-2008, 12:57 PM
Spurs wanted to keep Bonner. Lets see how much does Bonner make again? How much is he playing these days? :ROFL
What makes you think Scola would have even gotten off the bench for the Spurs?
Hell he might have wound up playing in the d-league.
He wouldn't have put up the numbers on this team that he is putting up on the Rockets...
He would have spent substantially more time on the bench for the Spurs than he is for the Rockets.
Spurs>Rockets
I hate to break it to you..
Rainman
02-11-2008, 02:53 PM
What makes you think Scola would have even gotten off the bench for the Spurs?
Hell he might have wound up playing in the d-league.
He wouldn't have put up the numbers on this team that he is putting up on the Rockets...
He would have spent substantially more time on the bench for the Spurs than he is for the Rockets.
Spurs>Rockets
I hate to break it to you..
Hate to break it to you whottt but Scola is better than more than one player on the Spurs current Roster - D leauge would be doubtful for him. Haven't you heard he is know as the Big Manu! :lol
Indazone
02-11-2008, 05:03 PM
Here is what Thorpe says about Scola on ESPN:
As I watch hundreds of video clips and game tape of rookies each week, no player makes me appreciate the NBA game more than Luis Scola. Offensively, he plays the game the right way: moving in space, feeling gaps, making tough catches and tougher plays, and showing creativity with the ball around the rim. In short, he looks like a perfect player for the Spurs, the team that traded him. I still wonder what happened for that deal to go down.
:p:
temujin
02-11-2008, 06:08 PM
That's right.
Spurs>Rockets.
This not because but DESPITE their bigs, except Duncan.
Scola is playing along an horrible point guard, a marble center and a you-guys-are-going-to-need-another-ball-cause-I-am-swallowing-this-one.
Not exactly Duncan and Parker and Ginobili.
In addition he is a winner.
He is the main reason why Argentina won the Olympic final game. He was absolutely unstoppable in that game.
A game that only happens once in a lifetime, NOT every other year (even or UNEVEN).
Finally, there is a nemesis.
May the Spurs NOT meet the Rockets in playoffs.
Cherry
02-11-2008, 10:19 PM
Here is what Thorpe says about Scola on ESPN:
As I watch hundreds of video clips and game tape of rookies each week, no player makes me appreciate the NBA game more than Luis Scola. Offensively, he plays the game the right way: moving in space, feeling gaps, making tough catches and tougher plays, and showing creativity with the ball around the rim. In short, he looks like a perfect player for the Spurs, the team that traded him. I still wonder what happened for that deal to go down.
:p:
I still wonder the same :depressed
Capt Bringdown
02-11-2008, 11:07 PM
Big mistake by the Spurs FO.
Mr.Bottomtooth
02-11-2008, 11:16 PM
true, but the Spurs didn't own the right of Howard and didn't trade him away for nothing
a little bit of difference there
True, but Scola sucks...
Hemotivo
02-12-2008, 12:13 AM
not true
DaDakota
02-12-2008, 01:19 AM
Anyone who thinks that Scola would not be playing is nutz, he would be playing on ANY NBA team, his B-ball IQ is off the charts.
He has Kevin McHales types of offensive moves around the basket, he would most assuradly be playing for the Spurs.....
And he is the key reason the Rockets have won 10 out of 11 and 7 in a row.
DD
anakha
02-12-2008, 01:32 AM
He has Kevin McHales types of offensive moves around the basket
Easy on the comparisons there, buddy.
McHale may suck at being a GM, but he was light years ahead of Scola as an inside player.
DaDakota
02-12-2008, 09:26 AM
Easy on the comparisons there, buddy.
McHale may suck at being a GM, but he was light years ahead of Scola as an inside player.
Oh, I am not saying he is as good as McHale...LOL.....just saying he has some of the same crafty type of moves around the basket.
He is not a super athlete, but his intellect is off the charts....he is a lot like Manu in that he plays to a different rythmn and it allows him to get an advantage doing it.
DD
hater
02-12-2008, 11:35 AM
with Scola we would be much better off at this point.
Scola >>> Bonner/Horry/Elson/Oberto
urunobili
02-12-2008, 12:15 PM
with Scola we would be much better off at this point.
Scola >>> Bonner/Horry/Elson/Oberto
sorry mate.. aging Horry in the playoffs > Scola
DaDakota
02-12-2008, 12:37 PM
What is outrageous is how good the Argentinian national team is going to be at the Olympics this year.
Manu
Scola
Oberto
Nocionne
Hermann
Delfino
They are going to give the USA a run for the Gold medal.
Indazone
02-12-2008, 12:53 PM
Hermann and Delfino need more minutes.
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-12-2008, 02:52 PM
What is outrageous is how good the Argentinian national team is going to be at the Olympics this year.
Manu
Scola
Oberto
Nocionne
Hermann
Delfino
They are going to give the USA a run for the Gold medal.
Any of the team from Argentina, Greece, Lithuania, Spain have good enough team beat US.
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-12-2008, 02:54 PM
I still wonder the same :depressed
They make trade belief that Spanoulis will play for them. Do not believe any other lie said about the trade.
Indazone
02-12-2008, 02:57 PM
Walter Hermmann is getting screwed on the Pistons squad. He was very good and was on my fantasy squad last year. Someone should rescue him from the bench of the Detroit Pistons.
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-12-2008, 03:25 PM
True, but Scola sucks...
but looks like Wilt Chamberlin compared to Elson/Bonner combined
Mr.Bottomtooth
02-12-2008, 06:27 PM
but looks like Wilt Chamberlin compared to Elson/Bonner combined
Yes, because it's a known fact he would've been able to learn the system and be the main backup.
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-12-2008, 06:56 PM
Yes, because it's a known fact he would've been able to learn the system and be the main backup.
he's Argentinian, they know how to play in Pop's system, not like wouldn't have 2 friends to help him out
and Scola>>>>>Boner/Elson's nightly DNPs
Mister Sinister
02-12-2008, 06:58 PM
he's Argentinian, they know how to play in Pop's system, not like wouldn't have 2 friends to help him out
and Scola>>>>>Boner/Elson's nightly DNPs
http://masklinnscans.free.fr/4chan/fail_at_life.gif
Mr.Bottomtooth
02-12-2008, 08:53 PM
he's Argentinian, they know how to play in Pop's system, not like wouldn't have 2 friends to help him out
and Scola>>>>>Boner/Elson's nightly DNPs
Argentines know how to play in Pop's system. So why don't they just go out and get all the Argentines they can?
manufor3
02-12-2008, 09:33 PM
but looks like Wilt Chamberlin compared to Elson/Bonner combined
yes
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-12-2008, 10:28 PM
Argentines know how to play in Pop's system. So why don't they just go out and get all the Argentines they can?
well let's see
the Spurs fucked up on Scola
they fucked up on drafting Noc
doesn't seem to likely then..........
Indazone
02-13-2008, 04:21 AM
Just go out and get Walter Hermann. Surely a trade with the Pistons makes sense. It's out of the divison and they are both overloaded with talent. Both teams can address weaknesses.
Bruno
02-13-2008, 05:37 AM
:sleep
6 months after it, the Scola trade doesn't look that bad.
Wake me up if it changes.
:sleep
ArgSpursFan.
02-13-2008, 05:53 AM
:sleep
6 months after it, the Scola trade doesn't look that bad.
Wake me up if it changes.
:sleep
well Bruno,tell me what Elson,Bonner or Even Ian Were able to do to help the Spurs front line,and them go look at Scola's numbers,and most important,his numbers in the last 20 games or so,and them comeback and tell me that the trade still doesn't look bad.
Right now,I would trade back Scola for Elson,Bonner,Ian and a draft pick.
Bruno
02-13-2008, 06:40 AM
Right now,I would trade back Scola for Elson,Bonner,Ian and a draft pick.
I wouldn't.
Look at the whole picture about the Scola trade :
- Spurs were right about Butler, he was worthless. Teams sell first round pick for $3M, Scola has helped Spurs to save $4.7M. $4.7M and a second round wasn't a that abd return for Scola.
- Rockets are far from being the most dangerous team in the west. Trading with them wasn't a big deal.
- Rockets could have spend their MLE on a player like Joe Smith. Scola doesn't help them more than him.
- Scola hasn't been good enough to make the trade bad. It could change but Scola's performances aren't good enough to turn the trade into a really bad one.
The only thing you could wonder is if Spurs were right to sign Bonner instead of Scola.
First, it's not really related to the Scola trade.
Second, Spurs will need Bonner's shooting when Horry will retire.
Third, while Scola has been better this year than Bonner you had to consider that Scola is in a perfect situation with Rockets while Bonner is behind Horry, a 7 times NBA champion.
ArgSpursFan.
02-13-2008, 10:07 AM
I wouldn't.
[QUOTE]Look at the whole picture about the Scola trade :
- Spurs were right about Butler, he was worthless. Teams sell first round pick for $3M, Scola has helped Spurs to save $4.7M. $4.7M and a second round wasn't a that abd return for Scola.
I know that,that's why I always said,It sould've been Butler+Elson or Bonner or Ian's rights, instead of Butler+Scola's rights.
Bottom line:Bad move.
- Rockets are far from being the most dangerous team in the west. Trading with them wasn't a big deal.
They're like 6 games behind us right now,not that far.
- Rockets could have spend their MLE on a player like Joe Smith. Scola doesn't help them more than him.
Joe Smith is about 10 yrs older tham Scola,So while Scola is helping them right now,He'll keep helping the Rockets in years to come,Joe Smith was not gonna be able to do that.
Good move for the Rockets.
- Scola hasn't been good enough to make the trade bad. It could change but Scola's performances aren't good enough to turn the trade into a really bad one.
Let's take a look again at Bonner's , Elson's and even Fabricio's numbers and compare them with Scola's.
The only thing you could wonder is if Spurs were right to sign Bonner instead of Scola.
They were wrong,real wrong,no doubt about it.
Spurs will need Bonner's shooting
Ok,in Bonner's next life,right?
Third, while Scola has been better this year than Bonner you had to consider that Scola is in a perfect situation with Rockets while Bonner is behind Horry, a 7 times NBA champion.
In any situation,I would take a natural winner to replace another natural winner,regardless of the 3 pt shooting %.
Of course Scola wasn't gonna provide the Spurs with a long range,but He would've been able to do all the things the actual Spurs big outside Duncan can't do.
No matter how you see it,it's still a bad trade,real bad.
nkdlunch
02-13-2008, 10:10 AM
Any of the team from Argentina, Greece, Lithuania, Spain have good enough team beat US.
Isn't Russia pretty good too? USA will not have a cakewalk. these olympic basketball will be must see tv
nkdlunch
02-13-2008, 10:11 AM
sorry mate.. aging Horry in the playoffs > Scola
good call given that Scola has played 0 playoff games :rolleyes
ArgSpursFan.
02-13-2008, 10:18 AM
good call given that Scola has played 0 playoff games :rolleyes
that's true,but He's played a bunch of playoffs games in Euroleague,ACB league,and finals games with the Arg.Nat.Team.
The guy is use to deal with pressure.Not a big deal for him at all.
Now,when Horry retires,you would give the last shot to Bonner??????
Bruno
02-13-2008, 11:12 AM
I know that,that's why I always said,It sould've been Butler+Elson or Bonner or Ian's rights, instead of Butler+Scola's rights.
Bottom line:Bad move.
The only trade spur could have made was Butler + first round pick for nothing, then signing Scola instead of Bonner.
I rather have Bonner + a first round pick than Scola.
Let's take a look again at Bonner's , Elson's and even Fabricio's numbers and compare them with Scola's.
Fantasy basketball, nice way to judge a player. :lol
Just give Bonner regular playtime like Scola and he will put similar numbers.
FYI, Scola's PER is 15.0. Bonner PER in his rookie season was 14.7.
Scola's number are far from being impressive.
In any situation,I would take a natural winner to replace another natural winner,regardless of the 3 pt shooting %.
:rolleyes
Scola isn't a natural winner or a big game guy. You shouldn't have followed him in Europe.
I've said since day one that Scola was easily a better all around player than Bonner but as a Spurs fan you should know the value of a role player.
Bonner will have a role on this team when Horry will be gone. It's far from sure that Scola could have found his niche with Spurs.
The value of a basketball team isn't the sum of its talents. Spurs have won some titles without begin the most talented team in the league.
Indazone
02-13-2008, 11:12 AM
They're like 6 games behind us right now,not that far.
Actually 3 games but we will keep rocking with Scola baby!!
waly.mg
02-13-2008, 12:06 PM
The fact is:
Between seasons a lot of people sayed, Scola don´t proved anything in the NBA
Now with 40 games in the season, Scola is ahead of Bonner in Points, rebounds, Assists, and Steals
Last Ten: 11.1 Points and 6.2 Boards
Last 5: 10.8 and 7.0
As starter: 11.8 and 5.3
He is shooting over 50%
He have the Oberto´s numbers in Rebounds
With the season averages, not the last games, we only have 4 players of the spurs with more points and only Duncan with more rebounds
He´s in the first year in the league
He have better numbers than Manu´s 1st year
He´s in the All-Star Rookie team
And he is playing with T-Mac, who never pass the ball, and Yao
If he can sustitute Yao, he can Sustitute Duncan
With Duncan playing 35 minutes very game, Scola can replace him the other 13 minutes
And if he can play with Yao, he can play with Duncan, 8-10 Minutes
That sounds very good for me, if with that minutes can Score 8 and 5 is a nice sign
Bonner is taking the same money and he´s in Pop doghouse: Bad Move
I sayed, before season, he´s at least a lottery Pick value, probably not 1-5, but 6-10 yes
And we trade him, for a second round Pick ĦĦĦĦĦĦĦĦĦĦ
You can say, with that move we are under the Luxury Tax and Bla bla bla
We are talking about Basketball, not Business
The Spurs for only a pair of millions, can sign a breat player
If i can sign Lebron James for 20 millions, is a very good sign, but i must to pay Luxury
Probably we can make the same trade, with Booner and Buttler for Spanoulis and a second Draft Pick
rayweb_on
02-13-2008, 12:08 PM
[QUOTE=Bruno]
Scola isn't a natural winner or a big game guy. You shouldn't have followed him in Europe.
QUOTE]
mannnnnnnnnnn u have to be kidding right?
please tell me that you are kidding becouse say that scola its not a winner ..man?
waly.mg
02-13-2008, 12:22 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=7377
This is exactly what the Houston Rockets were hoping for when they dealt Vasillis Spanoulis to the San Antonio Spurs for the rights to Luis Scola.
The one thing that's been missing from the Rockets' attack during the Yao Ming Era is a true power forward. They've made do with guys like Chuck Hayes, who is a hack of a defender and rebounder, but isn't much of a scorer. They experimented with Shane Battier at the four, but that's been little more than a stop-gap approach. They tried using Steve Novak at the four some, but he's much more of a perimeter player and lacks the bulk to compete with other fours. So when Daryl Morey took over the team last summer he made it his top priority to address the power forward position, and his moves are starting to pay big dividends for the Rockets.
Scola is the league's oldest rookie, having already earned some nice accolades for his accomplishments on the international scene. He's been named the top player in Europe, earned the MVP award for his play during last summer's FIBA competition, and now he's earned himself a starting spot with the Houston Rockets. It took him a while to adjust to the NBA game - especially the rules regarding what's a foul and what isn't - but he has put in the work, studied tape, and figured out how to stay on the court without picking up as many fouls. As a result, he's been a force at the four.
Head coach Rick Adelman gave him the chance to start during Tracy McGrady's most recent stretch of missed games, and Scola responded. The Rockets are 7-0 since adding him to the starting lineup and he's shooting 60% from the field in that role. Over the last four he's averaging 11.5 points and 7.8 rebounds per game with only 2.25 fouls. He's quickly becoming a player the defense has to respect, which makes the rest of the offense flow much more smoothly. Adelman was highly complimentary of his team's newly-improved passing game before they beat the Blazers on Monday night, and having that scoring threat at the four has been the difference.
As a direct result of Scola's contributions the Houston Rockets have become one of the hottest teams in the NBA. Their seven-game winning streak is second only to Detroit's (8), and they have actually moved into the playoff picture for the first time since early November. They are now 11 games over .500 - by far their best record this season - and have one of the best second-half schedules of any team in the league.
The Houston Rockets finally have a legitimate power forward who can score, rebound, and defend with the best of them. Scola's only going to get better as he becomes more and more comfortable with the NBA game, and that bodes well for the Rockets.
Bruno
02-13-2008, 12:36 PM
The fact is:
Now with 40 games in the season, Scola is ahead of Bonner in Points, rebounds, Assists, and Steals
Last Ten: 11.1 Points and 6.2 Boards
Last 5: 10.8 and 7.0
As starter: 11.8 and 5.3
Great a 5, 8 or 10 games sample size and no mention of playing time. Nice ways to twist stats.
Scola's stats per minute aren't that impressive for an offensive minded player.
His defense isn't good. He has even been benched by Rick Adelman because of that. :lol
Scola getting playing time in Houston isn't a sign of him being great. Rockets frontcourt really lack of depth/quality.
Scola has an average to quite good rookie year. Nothing more, nothing less.
Scola isn't just good enough for the moment to make the Scola's trade look significantly bad.
You can say, with that move we are under the Luxury Tax and Bla bla bla
We are talking about Basketball, not Business
NBA is a business too. Most of the trades are business related before being basketball related. If you don't get that, you will never be able to do a proper analysis of trades.
Probably we can make the same trade, with Booner and Buttler for Spanoulis and a second Draft Pick
No, it is impossible because of league rules.
mannnnnnnnnnn u have to be kidding right?
please tell me that you are kidding becouse say that scola its not a winner ..man?
Scola has spend 7 years at a high level in Europe.
Result : 0 Euroleague title and 1 Spanish league title.
Scola wasn't a winner in Europe. He hasn't been able to put his team over the top and struggled in a lot of big games.
ArgSpursFan.
02-13-2008, 01:02 PM
[QUOTE=Bruno]
Scola isn't a natural winner or a big game guy. You shouldn't have followed him in Europe.
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mannnnnnnnnnn u have to be kidding right?
please tell me that you are kidding becouse say that scola its not a winner ..man?
He's got a gold medal hanging on his chest.
And He was and Is an important member of that team
Even more,without Manu,Nocioni,Oberto ect,He caried the Arg National team to the Olimpics in Vegas,and He was the MVP of that tournament.
So,He's a winner.
You go cry somewhere else.
waly.mg
02-13-2008, 01:33 PM
Olympics qualifyng MVP
Gold Medal in Olympics, 2nd Team
Silver Medal in World Championship
ACB 2 time MVP
All Euroleague team
Probably not more than 10 players in NBA win more
Bruno
02-13-2008, 02:08 PM
MVP titles or first team titles means that you are a "natural winner". :rolleyes
I guess that Dirk or Nash are winners.
The biggest part of Scola's career is what he has done with Tau. He win nothing significant with Tau except a Spanish title in 2002 while Scola wasn't the main player of this team.
Calling Scola a winner because of MVP awards or because of a couple of successful summer is just plain wrong.
Scola was a great player in Europe, not a winner. It's a FACT, his lack of titles are here to back up that.
ArgSpursFan.
02-13-2008, 02:30 PM
MVP titles or first team titles means that you are a "natural winner". :rolleyes
I guess that Dirk or Nash are winners.
The biggest part of Scola's career is what he has done with Tau. He win nothing significant with Tau except a Spanish title in 2002 while Scola wasn't the main player of this team.
Calling Scola a winner because of MVP awards or because of a couple of successful summer is just plain wrong.
Scola was a great player in Europe, not a winner. It's a FACT, his lack of titles are here to back up that.
all I have to say to that is.....................
ATHENS 2004.
Bruno
02-13-2008, 02:33 PM
all I have to say to that is.....................
ATHENS 2004.
I guess we can say that Vince Carter is a winner because of Sidney 2000.
The bulk of a career is what you do with your team the whole year, not what you do during two weeks with your NT during the summer.
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
02-13-2008, 04:06 PM
Wow...I'm glad I didn't visit the forum for a while...I'll start talking to myself.
- Is Scola a good player? Yes.
- Will he be an All-Star? No.
- Are the Rockets championship material just because Scola is there? No.
- Is he a good addition to the Rockets? Yes, he's a smart basketball player who moves into spaces and gives their team another scoring threat.
- Could he be useful for the Spurs? Yes, specially since he is rebounding slightly better of what was expected from him.
- Would he have played the same minutes for the Spurs that he is putting in the Rockets? No, he'd probably would have to wait until late in his second year in San Antonio. But the chemistry between him and Manu could have been a nice addition.
- Did the Spurs made a bad deal? Yes, but there have been worse, just take a look at the past couple of weeks in the NBA.
- Is Scola sour or angry at the Spurs? Not at all, he understood that moving to Houston was a step foward in his career. If anything, he has stated that he is thankful to the Spurs for drafting him and then allowing him to move to a team where he could get playing time.
- Has this thead been going for way too long? Yes!
- Should this thead go on for the rest of Luis career in the NBA? No, THIS IS MADNESS!
http://communities.canada.com/windsorstar/photos/gonzochronicle/images/110640/original.aspx
Don't reply again and send this thread to the bottom of the pit of Spurs talk...
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-13-2008, 04:17 PM
Isn't Russia pretty good too? USA will not have a cakewalk. these olympic basketball will be must see tv
Russia win European Championship and upset Spain in Madrid but Spain team is team of chokers and also I think Russia team not as talent when other team have full team. Team like Argentina and Greece not send full team when they compete at America Championship and European Championship but also yes the Russia team very good.
Mr.Bottomtooth
02-13-2008, 06:55 PM
well let's see
the Spurs fucked up on Scola
they fucked up on drafting Noc
doesn't seem to likely then..........
Only TWO Argentines?
I'm pretty sure you have the knowledge of just about all the Argentines available in the US, Europe, and South America, since you love them so much.
Obstructed_View
02-13-2008, 07:49 PM
he's Argentinian, they know how to play in Pop's system, not like wouldn't have 2 friends to help him out
That's why the Spurs won the title in 2006, because Oberto knew the system so well he was able to shine when Pop wasn't playing Nazr or Rasho.
Wait a sec... :rolleyes
Mister Sinister
02-13-2008, 08:15 PM
So, wait, it's been HOW long since the Scola trade?
m33p0
02-13-2008, 10:42 PM
seriously, this thread needs to be shot down.
remingtonbo2001
02-13-2008, 11:58 PM
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whottt
02-14-2008, 05:20 AM
- Did the Spurs made a bad deal? Yes, but there have been worse, just take a look at the past couple of weeks in the NBA.
Depends...if we win the title again this season it'll be 100% certain that Scola wasn't needed...and I'm still of the mind that the Spurs got the best deal they could...
I mean I don't really want to see Scola in Cleveland...do you? That's worse than him being on the Rockets.
Cleveland doesn't need much to be a champion...a scoring PF just might do it.
The Rockets OTOH needs a whole lot of stuff still...like for TMac to be a winner.
And if we don't win a title? Call it a hunch...but I have a feeling it won't be because we couldn't score inside....Mr. Duncan will take care of that...better than anyone in the NBA and most guys in NBA history.
As for what this did for Scola's career...Spurs are the NBA champions...if we win the title again this season...ole Luis is going to be hurting over that. It's not that easy to win an NBA title...some guys, many guys, never do.
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02-14-2008, 09:28 AM
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Indazone
02-14-2008, 11:25 AM
Scola only had 6 pts and 2 rebounds last night in 11 minutes. Seems Adleman wanted to play defense against the Kings. Instead of Scola/Landry, he played Bonzi, Hayes, and Battier heavy minutes. Had an 18 pt lead going into the 4th and blew it against the Kings. Almost lost this game..I blame that on coaching! argh. Novak saved the game with 2.4 seconds to go with a game winning 3 ptr.
jay014
02-14-2008, 09:24 PM
:stfu
:idiot
Indazone
02-15-2008, 03:20 AM
:idiot
LOL and if ya didn't sign Bonner to that big Albatross contract...well you know the rest. Oh well, ya got yourselves the 5 million dollar cheerleader.
"The Red Rocket"
For the next 3 years!! :hungry:
picnroll
02-15-2008, 06:54 AM
LOL and if ya didn't sign Bonner to that big Albatross contract...well you know the rest. Oh well, ya got yourselves the 5 million dollar cheerleader.
"The Red Rocket"
For the next 3 years!! :hungry:
Yeah but the Spurs would be paying Butler instead of the Rockets which was the point of the trade. Scola isn't what the Spurs could use most.
waly.mg
02-15-2008, 12:41 PM
ONE MORE QUESTION:
ANY GM OF THE NBA CAN TRADE A STARTER FOR A SECOND ROUND PICK?
If one manager trade his second round pick for a starter, is a genious
ArgSpursFan.
02-15-2008, 01:23 PM
If one manager trade his second round pick for a starter, is a genious
or............the one manager who traded the starter and got a second round pick in return is a dumbass.
It could be too.
remingtonbo2001
02-15-2008, 04:44 PM
Who the hell keeps this thread going.
What the fuck does this have to do with the Spurs.
Maybe we should have the Official Stephen Jackson thread.
jay014
02-15-2008, 09:14 PM
Who the hell keeps this thread going.
What the fuck does this have to do with the Spurs.
Maybe we should have the Official Stephen Jackson thread.
Stephen Jackson played for the Spurs. We need to have Offical Bill Curley, Leandro Barbosa, John Salmons and Tracy Murray threads guys who were drafted by the Spurs and never played for them.
remingtonbo2001
02-15-2008, 11:07 PM
Stephen Jackson played for the Spurs. We need to have Offical Bill Curley, Leandro Barbosa, John Salmons and Tracy Murray threads guys who were drafted by the Spurs and never played for them.
:lmao make it happen!
waly.mg
02-16-2008, 10:34 AM
MVP titles or first team titles means that you are a "natural winner". :rolleyes
I guess that Dirk or Nash are winners.
The biggest part of Scola's career is what he has done with Tau. He win nothing significant with Tau except a Spanish title in 2002 while Scola wasn't the main player of this team.
Calling Scola a winner because of MVP awards or because of a couple of successful summer is just plain wrong.
Scola was a great player in Europe, not a winner. It's a FACT, his lack of titles are here to back up that.
LOSER AND WINNER?
LOOK AT THE ALL STARS:
2008 All-Star
Eastern
Jason Kidd - NBA FINAL- East Champion
Dwyane Wade - NBA CHAMPION
LeBron James - NBA FINAL - East Champion
Kevin Garnett
Dwight Howard
Chauncey Billups - NBA CHAMPION
Richard Hamilton - NBA CHAMPION
Caron Butler
Paul Pierce
Chris Bosh
Joe Johnson
Antawn Jamison
Rasheed Wallace - NBA CHAMPION
Ray Allen
WEST
Allen Iverson - NBA FINAL
Kobe Bryant - NBA CHAMPION
Carmelo Anthony
Tim Duncan - NBA CHAMPION
Yao Ming
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Dirk Nowitzki - NBA FINAL - West Champion
David West
Amare Stoudemire
Brandon Roy
Carlos Boozer
Only 10 Players of 26, played an NBA Final
Only 6 Players won the Ring
So, are there 20 losers or not?
Bruno
02-16-2008, 12:04 PM
LOSER AND WINNER?
[...]
Only 10 Players of 26, played an NBA Final
Only 6 Players won the Ring
So, are there 20 losers or not?
What a strange way to see things.
Is everything black or white ?
Not being a winner doesn't mean that you are a looser.
ArgSpursFan.
02-16-2008, 02:06 PM
What a strange way to see things.
Is everything black or white ?
Not being a winner doesn't mean that you are a looser.
and why doesn't that apply on Scola now.????
It looks to me that you're not being the same way with Scola Mr.
Scola has more tham a gold medal in his career,maybe He just lacks of an Euroleague title,but that's about it.
Bruno
02-16-2008, 02:44 PM
and why doesn't that apply on Scola now.????
It looks to me that you're not being the same way with Scola Mr.
It looks like you have some serious reading comprehension troubles.
Did I say Scola is a loser ? No.
You said Scola is a a "natural winner" and I just said he isn't that.
It's just unreal to see a bunch of angry Scola's fans going after me while I've just said that a player who doesn't win isn't a winner.
Maybe Scola's fans should sue the dictionary to have as definition for winner "someone who wins" and not "someone whose name is Luis Scola"
whottt
02-16-2008, 03:06 PM
Scola was the worst player for the rookie team yesterday.
ArgSpursFan.
02-16-2008, 03:34 PM
Scola was the worst player for the rookie team yesterday.
Like it counts.
ArgSpursFan.
02-16-2008, 03:36 PM
It looks like you have some serious reading comprehension troubles.
Did I say Scola is a loser ? No.
You said Scola is a a "natural winner" and I just said he isn't that.
It's just unreal to see a bunch of angry Scola's fans going after me while I've just said that a player who doesn't win isn't a winner.
Maybe Scola's fans should sue the dictionary to have as definition for winner "someone who wins" and not "someone whose name is Luis Scola"
well, you said he is a chocker,and that He never showed up in important games.
I guess,that should go to those ALL StARS who never won an NBA title too, but it doesn't.(Of course,acording to your nonsence criteria)
Bruno
02-16-2008, 03:46 PM
well, you said he is a chocker,and that He never showed up in important games.
First, choker isn't the same thing than looser.
Second, I've never that Scola was a choker. Give a link where I said that or STFU.
I guess,that should go to those ALL StARS who never won an NBA title too, but it doesn't.(Of course,acording to your nonsence criteria)
:lol
All Stars who never won a NBA title aren't winners.
Being a chocker or not has nothing to do with winning or not a NBA title.
ArgSpursFan.
02-16-2008, 04:38 PM
All Stars who never won a NBA title aren't winners.
Being a chocker or not has nothing to do with winning or not a NBA title.
I guess the elimination game vs Brazil in Vegas doesn't count for you as well,right?
And eather the Semis and Final in Athens.
Look,Scola has shown that He was ment to play at the highest level in world Basketball,It don't really matter what you think.
It's just hilaruis that while you say all those things about Scola,you also say that you think Ian can actually play at the same level in the Nba.
Hey,It's not not fault,you're french, just like Ian.
nkdlunch
02-16-2008, 04:44 PM
LMAO at ppl complaining about Scola's rookie game. Scola is like Manu, worthless in allstar games. He ain't a balla, he's a team player.
Bruno
02-16-2008, 04:51 PM
you also say that you think Ian can actually play at the same level in the Nba.
Link ?
I'm also waiting for the link where I called Scola a choker.
Hey,It's not not fault,you're french
You've crossed the line.
I despise people making that kind of comment and I'm done talking to you.
Allanon
02-16-2008, 04:53 PM
The most ironic thing about Scola is how perfect he would be for the Spurs right now. What's worse is if Spurs go up against Rockets in the first round and Scola goes off.
For the Spurs, Scola going to the Rockets might even be a worse deal than Pau to the Lakers.
anakha
02-16-2008, 07:53 PM
I guess the elimination game vs Brazil in Vegas doesn't count for you as well,right?
And eather the Semis and Final in Athens.
Look,Scola has shown that He was ment to play at the highest level in world Basketball,It don't really matter what you think.
It's just hilaruis that while you say all those things about Scola,you also say that you think Ian can actually play at the same level in the Nba.
Hey,It's not not fault,you're french, just like Ian.
Classic "If I can't actually back up any of my arguments, then resort to insulting the other guy" defense.
Then again, considering it's ArgSpursfan, should I really be surprised?
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-17-2008, 02:55 PM
Scola was the worst player for the rookie team yesterday.
Navarro look like worse to me or Durant he seem like idiot on court.
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-17-2008, 02:57 PM
I guess the elimination game vs Brazil in Vegas doesn't count for you as well,right?
And eather the Semis and Final in Athens.
Look,Scola has shown that He was ment to play at the highest level in world Basketball,It don't really matter what you think.
It's just hilaruis that while you say all those things about Scola,you also say that you think Ian can actually play at the same level in the Nba.
Hey,It's not not fault,you're french, just like Ian.
French fan not able see good basketball. Pananthinaikos treat the French Euroleague teams like kids.
Bruno
02-17-2008, 03:16 PM
French fan not able see good basketball. Pananthinaikos treat the French Euroleague teams like kids.
Panthinaikos fan not able see good basketball. Spurs treat Panathinaikos and other Euroleague teams like kids.
temujin
02-17-2008, 04:22 PM
American all star game not valid Spanoulis not playing.
Greek all star game valid Spaonoulis playing.
More people watching greek all star game than american because Spanoulis playing.
nkdlunch
02-17-2008, 04:31 PM
Navarro look like worse to me or Durant he seem like idiot on court.
Navarro was awesome. He is a great player
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-17-2008, 04:48 PM
Navarro was awesome. He is a great player
Navarro is very overrate player.
nkdlunch
02-17-2008, 04:53 PM
Navarro is very overrate player.
maybe in Europe. not here. Anyway he is going to be a decent NBA player.
ArgSpursFan.
02-17-2008, 07:35 PM
You've crossed the line.
I despise people making that kind of comment and I'm done talking to you.
That's good,and while you're at it why don't you stop making those stupids comments of yours about Scola too???
BTW,when I said you're french, like Ian,It's not your fault,I wasn't insulting you,I was actually saying that French people are suppose to support eachother,but If you think that I was insulting you by calling you ¨french¨ it's ok.
I don't feel insulted when people call me Argentinian,cose I'm proud of my nationality,I guess you don't feel the same way about yours.
jay014
02-17-2008, 09:33 PM
That's good,and while you're at it why don't you stop making those stupids comments of yours about Scola too???
BTW,when I said you're french, like Ian,It's not your fault,I wasn't insulting you,I was actually saying that French people are suppose to support eachother,but If you think that I was insulting you by calling you ¨french¨ it's ok.
I don't feel insulted when people call me Argentinian,cose I'm proud of my nationality,I guess you don't feel the same way about yours.
You're an Argentinian idoit.
anakha
02-17-2008, 09:42 PM
That's good,and while you're at it why don't you stop making those stupids comments of yours about Scola too???
BTW,when I said you're french, like Ian,It's not your fault,I wasn't insulting you,I was actually saying that French people are suppose to support eachother,but If you think that I was insulting you by calling you ¨french¨ it's ok.
I don't feel insulted when people call me Argentinian,cose I'm proud of my nationality,I guess you don't feel the same way about yours.
Don't try backing out of the comment you made.
At best, you were accusing him of showing an unhealthy bias towards a countryman who happens to be a basketball player (oh, by the way - Pot, kettle, black). At worst, you made an implied racial insult.
Pathetic. Which is pretty much par for the course whenever you're around. :rolleyes
manufor3
02-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Navarro is very overrate player.
Juan Carlos Rocks! :ihit :ihit :ihit :ihit :ihit :ihit :ihit
remingtonbo2001
02-18-2008, 12:36 AM
I figured this was the place to post non-Spurs related articles.
PHILADELPHIA (AP) -The Flyers lingered on the ice after another stinging loss to hand lucky ticket holders their jerseys as part of a fan appreciation promotion.
Some of those smiling kids were about the only ones feeling good. The Flyers would gladly trade their jerseys, sticks, helmets, whatever they've got, to get back into the win column.
Alex Kovalev had a goal and two assists to lead the Montreal Canadiens to a 5-3 win over Philadelphia on Sunday night, the reeling Flyers' seventh straight loss.
''Desperation is the word right now,'' Flyers center R.J. Umberger.
The Flyers, who lost to Montreal for the second straight night, have taken a stunning freefall from division leaders to seventh place in the Eastern Conference standings. Their season-high skid has left Philadelphia only one point ahead of Boston and Buffalo (64).
Coach John Stevens held a closed-door meeting with a team losing confidence as quickly as games.
''We've got to start doing everything in our power that's going to be in the best interest of our team winning hockey games,'' he said.
Francis Bouillon scored his first goal in 75 games, and Michael Ryder and Saku Koivu also scored for Montreal. Maxim Lapierre added an empty-net goal with 1:24 remaining.
The Canadiens beat the Flyers 1-0 on Saturday night in Montreal behind Carey Price 's first NHL shutout and an Andrei Kostitsyn goal. Price followed with 34 saves on Sunday.
The Canadiens are tied with Ottawa for the most points in the Eastern Conference (73), but Ottawa has two more wins.
''Our goal was to make the playoffs and it's still our goal. Sometimes you're ahead a little bit of the curve and I think we are,'' Montreal coach Guy Carbonneau said.
Mike Richards , Braydon Coburn and Riley Cote scored goals for the Flyers. Cote scored his first NHL goal with 18.1 seconds left.
The Canadiens took advantage of a momentary mental lapse in the final seconds of the first period that left Bouillon open to skate nearly the length of the ice and finish the 2-on-1 break with his first goal since last season.
Forward Scottie Upshall drilled Kostitsyn in the corner near Montreal's net. Montreal defenseman Josh Gorges came to Kostitsyn's defense and goaded Flyers defenseman James Vandermeer into a faceoff, leaving Bouillon free to skate uncontested through center ice and score with 2 seconds left for a 2-1 lead.
Gorges smirked at Vandermeer as he skated away.
''I think if each guy is better and more aware every shift on the ice, that's the only way we're going to stop this thing,'' Vandermeer said. ''If I'm a little more aware where the puck is, if I'm back, maybe it slows the play up a little bit.''
A play like that seemed to sum up all that's gone wrong for the Flyers.
''Everyone stopped. They thought it was going to be a fight,'' Stevens said. ''That's just a killer. You can't stop playing.''
Carbonneau was surprised the Flyers would try and fight instead of defend.
''They completely forgot the play to try to engage in short fighting,'' he said ''They play us enough to know that we're not trying to engage in anything. We're just trying to play the game.''
Coburn, who returned after missing four games with a ruptured artery in his buttocks, scored his fifth goal only 34 seconds into the second that tied the score. It was the first even-strength goal the Flyers scored against Montreal this season.
The celebration was short lived.
Ryder punched in the puck off a rebound for his ninth goal only 1:41 later for a 3-2 lead. Then Montreal capitalized on a two-man advantage when Koivu hooked the puck around a sprawled Antero Niittymaki for his 11th goal.
Those were enough goals to send Montreal to its third straight win overall and a season sweep (4-0) off the Flyers.
There were plenty of Montreal fans in the crowd, so when Kovalev scored his 27th goal off a pass from Tomas Plekanec from behind the net, pockets of the upper deck broke into cheers and chants of ''Go Habs Go!''
The Flyers tied the score at 1 midway though the first on Richards' 23rd goal. With the Flyers short-handed, Richards faked a pass from the circle, then put his stick down and slapped one past Price.
Notes: The Flyers played without RW Steve Downie (concussion), D Derian Hatcher (knee) and RW Joffrey Lupul (sprained ankle). ... The Flyers have lost six straight overall to Montreal. Their last win against the Canadiens came on Nov. 25, 2006.
Hemotivo
02-18-2008, 07:36 AM
Tim Duncan 4 pts
Luis Scola 4 pts :drunk
jay014
02-18-2008, 10:42 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws_f2tob400 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws_f2tob400) :drunk
Hemotivo
02-18-2008, 11:22 AM
:lol
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Another win, Scola with 15 pts
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2008021905
The Franchise
02-19-2008, 10:32 PM
Hard to believe this is my first post in this thread but here goes. Scolas line against the Cavs: 15 pts on 6 of 9, 8 rebs in 30 min. Not to shabby. :clap
whottt
02-20-2008, 12:40 AM
Woo! 15 fucking points? Holy shit...watch out Wilt, Scola's gonna get you.
Never have so many guys been on the dick of a fucking scrub.
Mr. Body
02-20-2008, 01:02 AM
I'd much rather have Scola than Matt Bonner at the same price. Dumb, dumb, dumb. But alright - we don't need him.
whottt
02-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Bonner is here because he can replace Robert Horry(in theory) as a perimeter shooting big. That's why...
When Bonner was starting he put up nice numbers remember? 25 and 17...
It's just that simple. And Scola wouldn't be getting the minutes here he is in Houston...
Houston had Chuck Hayes as their starting PF...
The Spurs have a guy named Tim Duncan.
ArgSpursFan.
02-20-2008, 06:26 AM
Bonner is here because he can replace Robert Horry(in theory) as a perimeter shooting big. That's why...
When Bonner was starting he put up nice numbers remember? 25 and 17...
It's just that simple. And Scola wouldn't be getting the minutes here he is in Houston...
Houston had Chuck Hayes as their starting PF...
The Spurs have a guy named Tim Duncan.
Duncan plays more minutes at the Center spot tham PF at his age.
Scola Plays along Yao Ming,and could've done the same with TD.
Sorry to brake it down to you like that,but He could've been the perfect feet for the spurs frontline.
If you need a big shooting 3s,you get a long 3, not a guy like Matt Fucking Bonner,in my book Robert Horry is more a long 3 tham a PF.
whottt you're trying too hard to bash Scola. The guy is having a good season, he's producing what he was supposed to. Why do you keep talking trash about him?
Capt Bringdown
02-20-2008, 06:35 AM
Matt Bonner over this guy?
smeagol
02-20-2008, 08:48 AM
whottt you're trying too hard to bash Scola. The guy is having a good season, he's producing what he was supposed to. Why do you keep talking trash about him?
Because whottt hardly ever admits he was wrong.
remingtonbo2001
02-20-2008, 09:02 AM
So....How has Yao been playing lately. Pretty good?
That's nice.
Did you hear, Dallas just traded for Jason Kidd.
Oh, and the Grizzlies now reside in Memphis.
Just in case you weren't able to keep up with the basketball world....
Your head being lodged in Scola's anal cavity for several years.
Indazone
02-20-2008, 12:00 PM
Well, if Spurs management could do it again. I guarantee that Bonner would be out riding the pine for some other NBA team and Scola would be backing up Duncan or sharing some time at SF. Actually Scola and Duncan would be better than Oberto/Duncan or Elson/Duncan. Cause both Oberto and Elson suck.
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-20-2008, 04:27 PM
Well, if Spurs management could do it again. I guarantee that Bonner would be out riding the pine for some other NBA team and Scola would be backing up Duncan or sharing some time at SF. Actually Scola and Duncan would be better than Oberto/Duncan or Elson/Duncan. Cause both Oberto and Elson suck.
Need be fair though on Spurs team they have Lindsey believe he can talks Spanoulis in to stay with team but they not understand how bad his mommy health was at this time.
midgetonadonkey
02-20-2008, 05:05 PM
You people are still talking about Scola? Fuck get over it already.
kuato
02-20-2008, 05:28 PM
whottt you're trying too hard to bash Scola. The guy is having a good season, he's producing what he was supposed to. Why do you keep talking trash about him?
Because the haters dont know a s*it about good basketball :nope
I respect his opinon but from what I've seen in this thread he has talked shit about Scola in every achivement that he has had. Let it go.
spursrule32
02-20-2008, 09:01 PM
I respect his opinon but from what I've seen in this thread he has talked shit about Scola in every achivement that he has had. Let it go.
That's not true - he's not really bashing Scola (most are sarcasim.) He's just saying that contrary to original basis of thread - Scola is good but not a sure fire ROY or All Star like some of the posts were implying.
remingtonbo2001
02-20-2008, 10:00 PM
Kurt Thomas.
:danceclub
That's not true - he's not really bashing Scola (most are sarcasim.) He's just saying that contrary to original basis of thread - Scola is good but not a sure fire ROY or All Star like some of the posts were implying.
It's true, Scola is no All Star but give him a break. The guy is playing good right now, he's doing what he was expected to and whottt just keeps bashing and bashing Luis' achivements. It's more than clear now that whott does not like Scola or at least don't consider him a really good player so just leave this thread alone.
whottt
02-21-2008, 03:06 AM
Because whottt hardly ever admits he was wrong.
Was I wrong?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1853239&postcount=36
Not really...
There's a difference between hardly ever being wrong and hardly ever admitting you're wrong...
Figure it out.
And you know you piss me off smeagol...becausde 2 or 3 years ago I said Scola was an ass and wouldn't be a Spur, based on his comments...and you guys said I was making shit up and that everything was fine and dandy...I even apologized...
Well guess what? Scola isn't a Spur...where is my apology?
whottt
02-21-2008, 03:10 AM
and whottt just keeps bashing and bashing Luis' achivements.
He hasn't achieved shit...
It's more than clear now that whott does not like Scola
I don't like Scola...I freely admit that. He was a dick for virtually all of his time as a Spurs draft pick...I don't give a fuck how many Argies spin it...they've been spinning it since day one and covering up for the countryment...
But it's why he's not on this team.
They need to apologize...as they are 100% biased by Nationalism...I am not.
or at least don't consider him a really good player so just leave this thread alone.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1853239&postcount=36
My predictions for Scola this season...
Adelaman's system turned Brad Miller into a HOFer statistically...doesn't mean he's not a lump of shit.
ArgSpursFan.
02-21-2008, 05:34 AM
:lmao @ wottt.
Geez,you're really out of arguments boy.
Get over it already,you were wrong (like many others)and Me and a few were right about Scola.that's just the truth.
anakha
02-21-2008, 05:44 AM
I was so right about Scola that I completely avoided posting about him except when he was having good games.
whottt
02-21-2008, 05:56 AM
:lmao @ wottt.
Geez,you're really out of arguments boy.
Get over it already,you were wrong (like many others)and Me and a few were right about Scola.that's just the truth.
Did you click on the link bitch? I'd say I was pretty accurate...his rebounding is better than I thought it would be...and that's about it. And his rebounding isn't that much better than I thought it would be.
It's right there...I just have a different definition of scrub than you guys do...
Just about anyone gets fucking minutes can put up numbers...
When Matt Bonner started he put up 27 points and 17 rebounds...
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
02-21-2008, 03:33 PM
I don't like Scola...I freely admit that. He was a dick for virtually all of his time as a Spurs draft pick...I don't give a fuck how many Argies spin it...they've been spinning it since day one and covering up for the countryment...
But it's why he's not on this team.
They need to apologize...as they are 100% biased by Nationalism...I am not.
:lmao
ArgSpursFan.
02-21-2008, 06:25 PM
When Matt Bonner started he put up 27 points and 17 rebounds...
Every scrub has a good game once in a while.
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Scola looking very good as usual
Imagine the chemistry manu would have had with Scola/Oberto in the floor with him
anakha
02-21-2008, 08:59 PM
Scola looking very good as usual
Imagine the chemistry manu would have had with Scola/Oberto in the floor with him
My god, what could have been... :rolleyes
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-21-2008, 10:50 PM
another double double for the Argentine whose game won't translate in the NBA
O.J. Mayonnaise
02-21-2008, 11:41 PM
I think there should be an official John Salmons thread.
remingtonbo2001
02-21-2008, 11:51 PM
The Official Scola thread couldn't have stopped Manu tonight!
:smokin
anakha
02-22-2008, 01:26 AM
another double double for the Argentine whose game won't translate in the NBA
Another attempt at self validation by the Scola nutsucker who just doesn't get it.
whottt
02-22-2008, 01:51 AM
Congrats on beating the worst team in the NBA...
Second time's the charm I guess :tu
whottt
02-22-2008, 02:11 AM
So tell me Scolafans...do you get excited everytime the Rockets win? You do don't you? Probably even giggle a little bit as you savor the win...
Scum. Complete Scum.
urunobili
02-22-2008, 06:33 AM
So tell me Scolafans...do you get excited everytime the Rockets win? You do don't you? Probably even giggle a little bit as you savor the win...Scum. Complete Scum.
to be honest... i don;t get exited when the rockets win because i hate almost all the roster BUT Luifa... so... i just like him doing good... they may not make the playoffs this year but if they do... he can contribute to knock out the #1 seed not named the Spurs
Indazone
02-22-2008, 10:17 AM
Nov 6 89-81 Rockets W
Nov 16 84-90 Spurs W
Jan 19 83-81 Rockets W
Mar 30 --- ????
See you guys on Mar. 30th when we go 3-1 over the Spurs this season LOL
Scola still Rocks!
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-22-2008, 12:20 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/playerrankings/regularseason/ROOKIES
He rate the 7 number rookie. Let say if he 7 number draft pick in NBA draft, then this 7 number draft pick worth more than Matt Bonner yes?
objective
02-22-2008, 03:48 PM
even having to deal with adjusting to the NBA as a rookie, Scola at this point has more double doubles than Oberto.
robbie380
02-22-2008, 03:50 PM
Congrats on beating the worst team in the NBA...
Second time's the charm I guess :tu
you guys did great defeating the t-wolves in closing seconds!! GJ! :clap :clap
ChumpDumper
02-22-2008, 03:54 PM
you guys did great defeating the t-wolves in closing seconds!! GJ! :clap :clapWe aren't celebrating that.
2centsworth
02-22-2008, 04:48 PM
ok, haven't participated in this thread in months, but has anything changed? Scola for nothing still the worse trade ever?
whottt
02-22-2008, 06:17 PM
even having to deal with adjusting to the NBA as a rookie, Scola at this point has more double doubles than Oberto.
He doesn't play with Tim, for the Spurs, and isn't coached by Pop....he wouldn't be getting the minutes, rebounds, or points if he was on this team...just like Oberto.
Just like David Robinson
Just like Nazr
Just like Horry
Just like Rasho
Just like every other bigman...all their numbers went down, as did their minutes.
ArgSpursFan.
02-22-2008, 06:21 PM
He doesn't play with Tim, for the Spurs, and isn't coached by Pop....he wouldn't be getting the minutes, rebounds, or points if he was on this team...just like Oberto.
.
He actually gets about the same minutes as Fabricio does with the Spurs,+Yao takes about the same shots or more p/game tham Duncan,and on top of that T-mac is on the same fucking team.
WTF Wottt????????
now,you're are officially out of arguments dude.
whottt
02-22-2008, 07:51 PM
He actually gets about the same minutes as Fabricio does with the Spurs,+Yao takes about the same shots or more p/game tham Duncan,and on top of that T-mac is on the same fucking team.
WTF Wottt????????
now,you're are officially out of arguments dude.
False...Scola's been getting more minutes since starting. And he's not playing with any rebounder as good as Duncan. He's also not on a team with 3 dominant scorers. He is a better scorer than Oberto...that was obvious in Europe. That's the only thing he does better than Oberto..and that's why he wouldn't be getting Oberto's minutes here.
remingtonbo2001
02-22-2008, 09:13 PM
So...ummm...yeah...
Why is this thread still here? Can I get a statement from management?
whottt
02-22-2008, 09:17 PM
No...this thread is going to continue until the Scolasuckers stfu and realize what fools they have made of themselves by acting like a fucking scrub is Wilt Chamberlain.
remingtonbo2001
02-22-2008, 09:28 PM
No...this thread is going to continue until the Scolasuckers stfu and realize what fools they have made of themselves by acting like a fucking scrub is Wilt Chamberlain.
:lol
Okay, I can reason with that.
Can we at least come to a compromise and go ahead and stick it up top in the NBA forum. Or maybe move it to SR.
Solid D
02-22-2008, 10:09 PM
Luis Scola SEASON AVERAGES
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
07-08 HOU 54 11 21.7 0.516 0.000 0.614 1.9 3.5 5.4 1.3 0.6 0.2 1.17 2.60 8.6
Solid D
02-22-2008, 10:10 PM
FWIW
Kurt Thomas SEASON AVERAGES
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
07-08 SAS 42 39 25.2 0.513 0.000 0.696 2.2 6.5 8.8 1.3 0.8 1.0 0.67 3.10 7.5
Solid D
02-22-2008, 10:15 PM
Luis Scola SEASON AVERAGES
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
07-08 HOU 54 11 21.7 0.516 0.000 0.614 1.9 3.5 5.4 1.3 0.6 0.2 1.17 2.60 8.6
FWIW
Kurt Thomas SEASON AVERAGES
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
07-08 SAS 42 39 25.2 0.513 0.000 0.696 2.2 6.5 8.8 1.3 0.8 1.0 0.67 3.10 7.5
Indazone
02-22-2008, 10:22 PM
Scola 8 pts 9 boards. good game for him. Rockets crush the Hornets 100 to 80
whottt
02-22-2008, 10:35 PM
Scola 8 pts 9 boards. good game for him. Rockets crush the Hornets 100 to 80
8 point and 9 rebounds?
Those are incredible numbers....do you realize that? Do you realize how incredible it is that Luis Scola tallied 8 fucking points and 9 fucking rebounds?
Has anyone ever pulled that off before?
In this history of the NBA?
8 points and 9 rebounds?
IF Scola isn't in the HOF it's a sin.
8 points
9 rebounds
Incredible.
We may never see that in the NBA again...
8 points
9 rebounds
I am fucking speechless...
I tell you...you Scola fans...you know talent when you see it.
whottt
02-22-2008, 10:37 PM
I'll bet even Jackie Butler never put up 8 points and 9 rebounds in a game...
8 points...9 rebounds...holy shit that's brilliant.
Indazone
02-22-2008, 10:46 PM
dumbass..Scola did well cause T-Mac went off for 32 pts and Yao had 28. That's 60 pts right there. Scola getting 8 pts and 9 boards is good.
whottt
02-22-2008, 10:51 PM
Hey man...all you had to do was say Scola had 8 points...9 rebounds. Those incomparable numbers speak for themselves.
How can you argue with 8 points and 9 rebounds?
Fire Pop.
I'll be even Mengke Bateer never had 8 points and 9 rebounds in a game.
8 points
9 rebounds
Thanks for taking the time post those incredible numbers...:tu
Francisco Elson couldn't have done that...
No one could do that...
Cept Luis Fucking Scola...
ducks
02-22-2008, 11:12 PM
Scola 8 pts 9 boards. good game for him. Rockets crush the Hornets 100 to 80
:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes
remingtonbo2001
02-22-2008, 11:20 PM
:lmao @ Whott
We can take it down at anytime...You got all the contacts Whott
This painful ignorance can disapear by simply dialing a few numbers...
...saying hello, Kori, take down the damn Official Scola thread...
You would be an ST Legend (If you not already)...The Great Whott who single handidly took down that damn fuckin Scola thread. All those Scola idolizers whom have been victimized by mere folklore would finally see the light....
That there is something more to the NBA than Luis fuckin Scola.
wireonfire
02-22-2008, 11:45 PM
Hey man...all you had to do was say Scola had 8 points...9 rebounds. Those incomparable numbers speak for themselves.
How can you argue with 8 points and 9 rebounds?
Fire Pop.
I'll be even Mengke Bateer never had 8 points and 9 rebounds in a game.
8 points
9 rebounds
Thanks for taking the time post those incredible numbers...:tu
Francisco Elson couldn't have done that...
No one could do that...
Cept Luis Fucking Scola...
Do you live with your head stuck in the sand?
He is a rookie! And he starts for and is a very valuable contributor on the hottest team in the league.
And his 8 and 9 was against an all star PF.
whottt
02-22-2008, 11:48 PM
Do you live with your head stuck in the sand?
No...but you live with your head up Scola's ass.
He is a rookie!
He's 27 years old....about 28.
And he starts for and is a very valuable contributor on the hottest team in the league.
Big fucking deal...so is Jacque Vaughn...you want me coming over to your forum and posting his nightly stats? Dick...
And his 8 and 9 was against an all star PF.
Oooh....shit, he really took that guy to school didn't he.
Buncha fucking morons.
m33p0
02-23-2008, 01:35 AM
seriously, somebody ought to shoot this thread down.
hater
02-23-2008, 01:36 AM
this thread will live forever. as a reminder of the fatal mistake the Spurs front office made that fateful friday afternoon when they waved SCola
genomefreak13
02-23-2008, 01:46 AM
This is a constant reminder how spurs fan can't be able to move on...Guys stop living in the past. COMPLAINTS wouldn't change it. Better start living forward again.
Indazone
02-23-2008, 02:35 AM
this thread will live forever. as a reminder of the fatal mistake the Spurs front office made that fateful friday afternoon when they waved SCola
It's a monument to the Spurs front office. No way Kori pulls this down till after the season. ;)
ArgSpursFan.
02-23-2008, 05:23 AM
:lmao @ Whott
We can take it down at anytime...You got all the contacts Whott
This painful ignorance can disapear by simply dialing a few numbers...
...saying hello, Kori, take down the damn Official Scola thread...
You would be an ST Legend (If you not already)...The Great Whott who single handidly took down that damn fuckin Scola thread. All those Scola idolizers whom have been victimized by mere folklore would finally see the light....
That there is something more to the NBA than Luis fuckin Scola.
:lmao
wottt,along many others,aint no legend, in this thread he's been owned since day one,and He's getting owned again and again as the time goes by and Scola keeps balling and getting better.
whottt
02-23-2008, 05:32 AM
:lmao
wottt,along many others,aint no legend, in this thread he's been owned since day one,and He's getting owned again and again as the time goes by and Scola keeps balling and getting better.
False....I thought Scola would start off decent, due to the fact that he's nearly 30 years old...I didn't expect him to suck worse and longer than the 19 year old rookies.
I figured he'd start out strong because he well into his twenties and about as polished he's going to get...
Then I figured he'd start sucking around February....I had no clue he was going to suck as long, as hard, and as badly as he did for the first 2 months of the season.
So basically my whole time table for him has been pushed back 2 months due to the fact that he sucked much worse than I thought he was going to for the first 2 months of the season....instead of February...he's going to start sucking hard in April.
Go read my first post in this thread...then again, read what I prdeicted Scola would do this season statistically...and you'll see I am not surprised by his positives whatsoever at this point...it's how bad he sucked for the first 2 months that was the surprise.
But anyway...he turns 28 years old next month....he's as good as he's going to get...and soon the league will start catching up to him.
This is probably the peak of Scola's career right now...hell I am not even taking into account the extended NBA schedule that's going to catch up to him soon.
Bottom line...you're excited about a guy who put up 8 points and 9 rebounds...and is averaging 8 and 5.....in his prime.
And he's not even as good as the 19 year old rookies.
Plus he choked like a bitch in Eurpope...and he's on a team whose best player is a notorious choker...as is their head coach.
You think adjusting is something only Scola can do? You're wrong...the NBA adjusts too...and the first thing they adjust to is physical limitations.
ArgSpursFan.
02-23-2008, 05:42 AM
He didn't suck in the first two moths,I mean Francisco Elson Sucks,Scola couldn't stay out of foul troubles in his first 15/20 games,that's why He wasn't getting the minutes.
Now that He figured it out He can stay on the floor and contribute.
Let face it,every true spurs fan,would love to see a guy like Scola help up TD in the paint,something that Elson,Bonner or even Horry at this stage on his career are not doing right now.
Hopefully,Thomas can be a answer for our frontline,but Scola,He could've been the perfect feet for this team's scoreless frontline(outside Duncan)
whottt
02-23-2008, 05:48 AM
ArgScolaSuck...
You do realize that the Spurs had this guy in their system for 5 years....do you really think they don't know his game inside and out? Do you really think they just stupidly gave him away?
Do you think you've seen him play more game than they have?
The Spurs don't do that with players that were in their system for 5 freaking years dude...
They were winning titles before you even knew what a fucking basketball was...
You aren't smarter than they are...
And go read my first post in this thread...I said he was going to start out good and start sucking around February...he started out sucking....the reasons I said he was going to start sucking in February have not been brought to bear yet...stay tuned...and be sure to show up this time around when it happens.
Enjoy the golden age of Scola while it lasts.
ArgSpursFan.
02-23-2008, 05:59 AM
If you ask me,I really think the understimated Scola,honestly.
I really think that The spurs FO never though Scola was gonna be this good since day one in the NBA.They knew He had talent,But they though He wasn't talented enough to take the spurs to the next level,that's why they resigned Bonner instead and kept Elson.
BTW,this aint the golden age of Scola,This is just the begining dude.
And I called it baby, long ago.
DaDakota
02-23-2008, 10:54 AM
Woah, the Spurs never had this guy "in their system" They held his draft rights.
And whenver Scola's ability to buy out his Euro contract became available the Spurs had no money or no room to sign him.
They did Scola a favor by letting him come to the NBA.....and it allowed the Spurs to get under the lux tax.
If you think Scola can't play, then you are sadly mistaken, the Rockets do not need him to be dominant, just to play a role, and he plays it SOOOO much better.
They are undefeated with him in the starting lineup at the PF spot....
11 and 0......and have beaten the Spurs, The Hornets, The Warriors, and the Cavs twice during that time.
The Rockets are playing GREAT because of Scola, he makes teams have to play honest and opens it up for Yao and Tmac....
I believe this is a case that was good for both Houston and San Antonio.....and Luis....
DD
anakha
02-23-2008, 11:01 AM
When the Rocket fans are more levelheaded and show more sense than the supposed 'Spurs fans' on this thread, it says a lot about those people...
Kill_Bill_Pana
02-23-2008, 11:08 AM
Woah, the Spurs never had this guy "in their system" They held his draft rights.
And whenver Scola's ability to buy out his Euro contract became available the Spurs had no money or no room to sign him.
They did Scola a favor by letting him come to the NBA.....and it allowed the Spurs to get under the lux tax.
If you think Scola can't play, then you are sadly mistaken, the Rockets do not need him to be dominant, just to play a role, and he plays it SOOOO much better.
They are undefeated with him in the starting lineup at the PF spot....
11 and 0......and have beaten the Spurs, The Hornets, The Warriors, and the Cavs twice during that time.
The Rockets are playing GREAT because of Scola, he makes teams have to play honest and opens it up for Yao and Tmac....
I believe this is a case that was good for both Houston and San Antonio.....and Luis....
DD
I have to says can be bad thing for Spurs but good for Rocket. Billy has notice Rocket team under Adelman and how he handle rookie players and also player from Euroleague Scola who same player that Billy outplay in Euroleague playoff when Billy just Euroleague rookie. He very much watch close how Adelman handle everything just like Peja advise him. Rocket team tell him before he demand leave that he still consider the player they want play 24 minute as 6 man back up Alston and T-Mac. He will follow how Spur and Rocket does in playoff.
I still think he should go Spurs I like see me two favorite player him and Manu together.
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-23-2008, 11:26 AM
11 straight wins for the team we gave Scola to, including blowing out the Hornets at NO
anakha
02-23-2008, 12:59 PM
11 straight wins for the team we gave Scola to, including blowing out the Hornets at NO
Case in point.
robbie380
02-23-2008, 01:58 PM
ArgScolaSuck...
You do realize that the Spurs had this guy in their system for 5 years....do you really think they don't know his game inside and out? Do you really think they just stupidly gave him away?
Do you think you've seen him play more game than they have?
The Spurs don't do that with players that were in their system for 5 freaking years dude...
They were winning titles before you even knew what a fucking basketball was...
You aren't smarter than they are...
And go read my first post in this thread...I said he was going to start out good and start sucking around February...he started out sucking....the reasons I said he was going to start sucking in February have not been brought to bear yet...stay tuned...and be sure to show up this time around when it happens.
Enjoy the golden age of Scola while it lasts.
so when pop said the trade made him wanted to spit did it mean he thought scola sucked? obviously the coach thought he had talent...i guess you know more than pop.
whottt
02-23-2008, 02:01 PM
Woah, the Spurs never had this guy "in their system" They held his draft rights.
Having his rights means he was in their system...their property. And if you don't the Spurs scouted him extrensively during the 5 years he was their property before deciding what do to with him...you are a moron.
And whenver Scola's ability to buy out his Euro contract became available the Spurs had no money or no room to sign him.
They had the money to sign him...they just didn't.
They did Scola a favor by letting him come to the NBA.....and it allowed the Spurs to get under the lux tax.
The Spurs could have signed Scola instead of others...and then the tax would not have been a problem, but they figured getting rid of Jackie Butler was worth it...
If you think Scola can't play, then you are sadly mistaken, the Rockets do not need him to be dominant, just to play a role, and he plays it SOOOO much better.
Fine...he's a role player...so stop posting his nightly stats that fucking are equalled by 50 to 60 players nightly as if they are signifigant...because it makes you fucking stupid when you make a big deal about it.
They are undefeated with him in the starting lineup at the PF spot....
No they aren't...
11 and 0......and have beaten the Spurs, during that time.
No they haven't damn dude...you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.
The Rockets are playing GREAT because of Scola, he makes teams have to play honest and opens it up for Yao and Tmac....
Rockets were a playoff team last year and when he was getting minutes earlier they couldn't buy a fucking win...
I know...you weren't around when he was sucking...like every other POS Scola/RocketFan in this thread.
Frontrunning..gutless...trash.
I believe this is a case that was good for both Houston and San Antonio.....and Luis....
DD
And I think the Spurs fucked Scola's career by ensuring he won't be winning a title anytime soon...
TMAC :lmao
...bad for Scola.
it's me
02-23-2008, 05:59 PM
Ooohhhh! now I understand .
whottt
02-23-2008, 06:09 PM
So you're a Houston Fan? :lmao
Well nothing explains illiteracy better than being from Houston...that was all you had to say. :tu
ducks
02-23-2008, 07:53 PM
scola can not even get brent to play with him
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-23-2008, 08:15 PM
scola can not even get brent to play with him
at least you're not hiding attempting to hide you stupidity now
anakha
02-23-2008, 08:18 PM
at least you're not hiding attempting to hide you stupidity now
I know you've heard this from me already, but...
Pot, kettle, black. :lmao
whottt
02-23-2008, 09:36 PM
Oberto had 8 rebounds against that same AS PF...by halftime.
He's outscoring(1-7 from the field) and outrebounding(4) that same AS PF as well...
What do you have to say now you Scola sucking fucks?
Where's his motherfucking parade?
I want to see 50 posts about it. I want to hear you guys saying what a genius Pop is...how smart the Spurs are...
C'mon frontrunning trash...where is your shit now?
Stupid fucks.
whottt
02-23-2008, 11:06 PM
:lmao He had the exact same numbers, 8 points 9 rebounds, only he did it in an actual game and not garbage time stat padding like Scola. And he actually kicked West's ass defensively. Plus he shot better from the field...no misses, while Scola missed an assload of shots.
C'mon...make a big deal about Oberto motherfuckers...do it. Follow his stats nightly, jack off to his boxscores like you do Scola's...and Oberto does it for the NBA Champions.
Make a big deal about him...let's hear his case for being one of the fifty greatest players in history like we have to hear about fucking Scola(when he has a mediocre game).
robbie380
02-23-2008, 11:18 PM
wow whottttttttttt you've convinced me. it wasn't how well you stated your argument that convinced me but how dramatically you said it. excellent job!! :elephant :downspin: :clap :elephant :madrun
whottt
02-23-2008, 11:33 PM
Seriously though...
Isn't it cool how Luis Scola and Fabricio Oberto are the only two players in NBA history to ever put up 8 points and 9 rebounds against an AS PF?
Even more ironic it was the same AS PF.
Not only that but they are both Argentines.
We should have a dual Jersey Retirement or something.
8 points
9 rebounds
AS PF
Just incredible...we've never seen anything like this before, we may never see something like this again...but we saw it two nights in a row.
8points
9rebounds
AS PF
Just. Fucking. Incredible.
Chills are actually running up my spine.
O.J. Mayonnaise
02-23-2008, 11:50 PM
Just a couple of questions. 1. Why is there a 47-page thread about Luis Scola of all players? 2. Why does whottt hate Luis Scola so much?
whottt
02-23-2008, 11:51 PM
Just a couple of questions. 1. Why is there a 47-page thread about Luis Scola of all players? 2. Why does whottt hate Luis Scola so much?
You answered the question before you even asked it.
O.J. Mayonnaise
02-23-2008, 11:54 PM
That answers my second question....
whottt
02-24-2008, 12:03 AM
Other reasons:
Scola was an asshole the night he was drafted.
He was an asshole during the Olympics.
He was an asshole during negotiation.
He was an asshole about his self inflicted buyout.
And his fans don't show up when he plays badly...and when he plays good they don't care if the Rockets lose.
He's an asshole.
He attracts a low character(and frankly stupid) type of fan that aren't really loyal to the Spurs.
He's over-rated.
Oh...he's a choker too.
O.J. Mayonnaise
02-24-2008, 12:22 AM
What did he do, and why is there a huge thread about him? I mean, he's a fairly good NBA player along the lines of, say, Drew Gooden. The Rockets did start winning when they put him in the starting lineup, but he replaced Chuck Hayes, who might be the worst offensive player in the NBA. Why all the fuss? Why isn't there a 47 page thread for every player who was once drafted by the Spurs but now plays for another team.
spurms
02-24-2008, 12:45 AM
What did he do, and why is there a huge thread about him? I mean, he's a fairly good NBA player along the lines of, say, Drew Gooden. The Rockets did start winning when they put him in the starting lineup, but he replaced Chuck Hayes, who might be the worst offensive player in the NBA. Why all the fuss? Why isn't there a 47 page thread for every player who was once drafted by the Spurs but now plays for another team.
Because this trade really hurts, giving up a player who could contribute now to a division rival, i am pissed, especially when the rockets won 11 games in a row since he started ouch.
Lindsey = :donkey or :devil
whottt
02-24-2008, 12:47 AM
What did he do, and why is there a huge thread about him? I mean, he's a fairly good NBA player along the lines of, say, Drew Gooden. The Rockets did start winning when they put him in the starting lineup, but he replaced Chuck Hayes, who might be the worst offensive player in the NBA. Why all the fuss? Why isn't there a 47 page thread for every player who was once drafted by the Spurs but now plays for another team.
Earlier, in this thread....
He attracts a low character(and frankly stupid) type of fan
robbie380
02-24-2008, 04:52 AM
Other reasons:
Scola was an asshole the night he was drafted.
He was an asshole during the Olympics.
He was an asshole during negotiation.
He was an asshole about his self inflicted buyout.
And his fans don't show up when he plays badly...and when he plays good they don't care if the Rockets lose.
He's an asshole.
He attracts a low character(and frankly stupid) type of fan that aren't really loyal to the Spurs.
He's over-rated.
Oh...he's a choker too.
lol do you just make stuff up in your head and run with it? i guess whatever makes you happy.
whottt
02-24-2008, 05:10 AM
So like I was saying...Scola attracts a low character and stupid breed of fan...case in point all these stupid Rockets Trolls that swing from Scola's nuts.
They are soooooo fucking stupid to make such a big deal about Scola...
And you know what's really funny?
The Rockets had the guy that scared the living shit out of Spurfan..and it's not Scola, it's not TMac, it's not Yao...
It was Bonzi fucking Wells...and they just traded him.
So while these idiots act like they are going to get an O'brien trophy for their pissant little winning streak and act like Scola is a HOF'er...they just stupidly traded away the key to beating us.
Now?
The only curious thing going on with the Rockets and the post season is how many games will it take Adelman to turn their entire fanbase into ref whiners like he did the Kings...
I'm saying one playoff series...max.
No...I don't mean the Rockets usual 1 playoff series and out...I mean even if they win he'll do it.
Anyway...
The sooner the Rockets get to choking, which is what the city of Houston does best...the sooner all these stupid turds will be flushed...and hopefully all the Scolafans masquerading as Spurfans will get flushed with them...because really....that's the best thing that can happen to a turd...is for it to get flushed.
robbie380
02-24-2008, 05:19 AM
if you think we make a big deal out of scola you should see what we think about carl landry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HIbzmJeB9U
he is putting up scola's numbers in only 15 mpg.
whottt
02-24-2008, 05:21 AM
Carl Landry is a legitimate rookie, who is putting up impressive numbers in limited minutes...not a 28 year old who is not as good of a player as half the 19 year olds in the league this year.
spurms
02-24-2008, 05:46 AM
Carl Landry is a legitimate rookie, who is putting up impressive numbers in limited minutes...not a 28 year old who is not as good of a player as half the 19 year olds in the league this year.
scola & landry averagin 20 pts/20 reb in 40 mins between them. :depressed
The Franchise
02-24-2008, 10:53 PM
Scolas' line against Chicago: 17 pts 4 rebounds 3 assists on 7 of 11 shooting in 33 minutes. :smokin
robbie380
02-24-2008, 11:01 PM
i have never seen a greater performance in the history of life. scola was amazing. whottttttttttttttttttttttttt....don't you agree? it was like watching jesus christ play basketball. ....and JC can ball. :elephant :elephant :downspin: :ihit :clap
ducks
02-24-2008, 11:11 PM
man what will scola fans say when kurt pulls these kind of numbers against dallas on thursday
rayweb_on
02-24-2008, 11:18 PM
hey ...you scola haters u are rigth that numbers are so poor ..i mean ridiculous an look more poor and ridiculous when you look the numbers of booner...
whottt
02-24-2008, 11:31 PM
As a starter:
Matt Bonner: 13ppg
Luis Scola: 11ppg
Matt Bonner: 8rbg
Luis Scola: 6rbg
So like I was saying...pretty stupid...
rayweb_on
02-24-2008, 11:40 PM
so why booner isnt staring ...dumb ass ..you may say he has a big role coming from the bench right? ...becouse that numbers are too damm good ...pretty stupid
anakha
02-24-2008, 11:50 PM
so why booner isnt staring ...dumb ass ..you may say he has a big role coming from the bench right? ...becouse that numbers are too damm good ...pretty stupid
:lmao :lmao :lmao
So first, you argue that numbers show how much Scola is better than Bonner, than after getting numbers thrown at your face, you say numbers don't matter?
Good Lord, your take is even worse than the average Scola fan's.
whottt
02-24-2008, 11:52 PM
so why booner isnt staring ...dumb ass
1. Because the Spurs are a better and deeper team than the Rockets.
2. Because he doesn't play defense very good(and neither does Scola).
..you may say he has a big role coming from the bench right? ...becouse that numbers are too damm good ...pretty stupid
I don't know what makes you think Scola would be pulling major minutes here...was Beno?
That's like saying Beno is better than Damon Stoudamire because he starts in Sacremento...he wouldn't have been starting here. In fact he wouldn't have even been in the rotation in here....in fact he wasn't.
The less stupid you get as you learn about basketball the more what I say will make sense, and the stupider you'll realize you were right now...
Congrats, you have getting smarter to look forward to in your future :tu
2centsworth
02-25-2008, 01:04 AM
It's obvious Scola is a pretty good rookie, and is having a decent rookie season. I think Manu only average 10 or so points his rookie season. He may not be the greatest, but he's certainly worth more than a protected second round pick and $3 million dollars.
WalterBenitez
02-25-2008, 05:39 AM
Other reasons:
Scola was an asshole the night he was drafted.
He was an asshole during the Olympics.
He was an asshole during negotiation.
He was an asshole about his self inflicted buyout.
And his fans don't show up when he plays badly...and when he plays good they don't care if the Rockets lose.
He's an asshole.
He attracts a low character(and frankly stupid) type of fan that aren't really loyal to the Spurs.
He's over-rated.
Oh...he's a choker too.
He is an asshole and you spend time posting about him? :rolleyes
Freud would help you a little :reading
ArgSpursFan.
02-25-2008, 05:42 AM
Scola played a solid game last night,7/11 from the field and 3 asists. Not a good reboundind game,only 4 boards.
Now,Is Scola Helping the Rockets this season???
Of course
Are the Rockets a better team tham last year with Scola Starting as their PF???
Hell,yeah.
whottt
02-25-2008, 06:32 AM
:lol @RocketFans hanging out on a Spurs forum pretending to be Spurs fans and telling others they need a shrink...
And don't say you aren't RocketFans...after all, they have an Argie. And that's the it works with you guys.
I know but ya'll like the Spurs, because they have the Argie with championships...ahh integrity, but we all know how quickly that rooting interest will change.
Ya'll aren't NBA Fans who enjoy teams winning championships...ya'll are Argentines who enjoy Argentines winning championships in the NBA, with whoever...the team is just incidental.
Anyway...in closing..
Luis Scola has started 13 games.
Matt Bonner has started 3...he put up 25 and 17?
Has Scola?
Oh I know...Scola's a rookie, even though he's....older than Matt Bonner.
And it's funny how we can just look back earlier in this thread and see how you guys were complaining when Scola wasn't getting played...
:lmao and ya'll think that wouldn't have happened here. With Pop.. :lmao
And when that same thing you guys railed against earlier when Scola wasn't getting minutes, happens to Matt Bonner, it's because he sucks.... :lol
It really is hilarious.
I know...but we need him to win a championship...even though, as you guys are so fond of saying, he's a rookie who doesn't know how to play that well in the NBA.
You guys are funny...but Argie Nationalism is just a tad scary if you want to know the truth about it.
ArgSpursFan.
02-25-2008, 06:47 AM
First of all,I aint a Rockets fan,I'm just not a blind homer like you son.
Secondly: Matt Bonner's numbers in 3 games don't reflect if the guy is better of worse tham Scola.Now if you watch them play,you can easily tell that Scola is wayyyy better tham Bonner.
Scola numbers this season don't really reflect what the guy is capable to do in the NBA,coze He's adjusting to NEW RULES!!!!!something that Bonner already did in his roockie season.
anakha
02-25-2008, 06:52 AM
First of all,I aint a Rockets fan,I'm just not a blind homer like you son.
Says the 'Spurs fan' who talks about Scola and the Rockets 99 times out of a hundred.
I already looked back on your post history - hard to take you seriously as a 'Spurs fan' when all you've pratically posted about in the past months is about Scola and the Rockets.
Just change your team to the Rockets and start slobbering over Scola in the NBA forum already.
ArgSpursFan.
02-25-2008, 06:54 AM
Says the 'Spurs fan' who talks about Scola and the Rockets 99 times out of a hundred.
So what?????
Now I have to pimp matt bonner or Elson to be a true Spurs fan??????
STFU!!!!
anakha
02-25-2008, 06:56 AM
So what?????
Now I have to pimp matt bonner or Elson to be a true Spurs fan??????
STFU!!!!
Nope, just talk about the Spurs, not some player who is not a Spur.
Or is that too difficult for you, with Scola's knob in your mouth?
ArgSpursFan.
02-25-2008, 07:00 AM
Nope, just talk about the Spurs, not some player who is not a Spur.
Or is that too difficult for you, with Scola's knob in your mouth?
I do talk about the Spurs,and I also talk about players who play for the spurs in the present,or used to be spurs players,like Malik,Hedo,SJax,Scola,Berry Etc.
Now,if you don't like me talking about Scola,and posting on the official Scola thread,which is on the spurs forum,them look somewhere else body.
anakha
02-25-2008, 07:13 AM
I do talk about the Spurs,and I also talk about players who play for the spurs in the present,or used to be spurs players,like Malik,Hedo,SJax,Scola,Berry Etc.
Now,if you don't like me talking about Scola,and posting on the official Scola thread,which is on the spurs forum,them look somewhere else body.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=543444
One single post talking about wanting Hedo Turkoglu, Stephen Jackson and Devin Brown back on the team does not count.
And from what I see, 4 out of every 5 of your posts are Scola-related. Yup, you've really convinced me. :rolleyes
whottt
02-25-2008, 07:15 AM
Favorite NBA Teams of ArgScolaSucker:
1. The Houston Scolas
2. The San Antonio Ginobilis
3. The Chicago Nocionis
4. The Charlotte Hermanns
5. The San Antonio Obertos
6. The Toronto Delfinos
7. Soccer
smeagol
02-25-2008, 07:34 AM
Favorite NBA Teams of ArgScolaSucker:
1. The Houston Scolas
2. The San Antonio Ginobilis
3. The Chicago Nocionis
4. The Charlotte Hermanns
5. The San Antonio Obertos
6. The Toronto Delfinos
7. Soccer
:lol :lol :lol
ArgSpursFan.
02-25-2008, 01:11 PM
Favorite NBA Teams of ArgScolaSucker:
1. The Houston Scolas
2. The San Antonio Ginobilis
3. The Chicago Nocionis
4. The Charlotte Hermanns
5. The San Antonio Obertos
6. The Toronto Delfinos
7. Soccer
8. your girlfriend.
you missed that bud.
Indazone
02-25-2008, 01:37 PM
lmao you forgot
9. His mom :D
ArgSpursFan.
02-25-2008, 01:54 PM
lmao you forgot
9. His mom :D
nope,that's Scola's #1 favorite actually.
tp2021
02-25-2008, 03:15 PM
i decided, why the hell not? i read everything else, so i'll check out the freakin scola thread. and if i thought it was crap before, its a load of donkey shit right now. someone call those two girls, and tell them to bring a cup...
jay014
02-25-2008, 05:05 PM
8. your girlfriend.
you missed that bud.
:lol You don't like chicks. the way you go on and on about Scola your just like a crazy chick that all she knows is Ginobili nothing else. come to think of it, you remind me of Pluto and Angel Luv with their love for Rasho.
ArgSpursFan.
02-25-2008, 05:27 PM
:lol You don't like chicks. the way you go on and on about Scola your just like a crazy chick that all she knows is Ginobili nothing else. come to think of it, you remind me of Pluto and Angel Luv with their love for Rasho.
really????
and what about your love for Wottt and chumpdumper??????
I guess you gotta love them both doubleteaming you,huh????
STFU boy,you don't wanna be owned by me no more,believe me.
anakha
02-25-2008, 05:29 PM
really????
and what about your love for Wottt and chumpdumper??????
I guess you gotta love them both doubleteaming you,huh????
STFU boy,you don't wanna be owned by me no more,believe me.
So now, girlfriend and mom jokes = ownage? Bring something original :lmao
WalterBenitez
02-25-2008, 06:22 PM
lmao you forgot
9. His mom :D
:nope sister will always be first
whottt
02-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Go Scolas Go!
Spurs Dynasty 21
02-25-2008, 08:21 PM
Buford looking more and more like a genius everyday with the way Scola and Bonner are playing
jay014
02-25-2008, 08:31 PM
really????
and what about your love for Wottt and chumpdumper??????
I guess you gotta love them both doubleteaming you,huh????
STFU boy,you don't wanna be owned by me no more,believe me.
What about Whott and Chumpdumper I never once mentioned them so what the fuck are thinking of a gangbang you fuckin faggot.
and who are you to talk about ownage? you can't get this guy out of your fuckin dreams you still whack off to him. HE NEVER PLAYED FOR THE SPURS!
you should STFU punk and grow some fuckin balls and stop your whinning you bitch.You don't check the standings? the Spurs been on top of Houston for a long time now. but but Houston has a 11,12 game winning streak and Scola is averaging... FUCK YOU!and this idiot Spursdynasty21 or scolalove4,believe me.
anakha
02-25-2008, 09:21 PM
Buford looking more and more like a genius everyday with the way Scola and Bonner are playing
SD21 looking more and more like a Rocket fan everyday with each Scola-centric post.
spurms
02-25-2008, 10:54 PM
Anyone who thinks scola is good is not a spursfan period. :rolleyes
whottt
02-25-2008, 11:52 PM
Scola wouldn't even't be pulling minutes in this rotation if he were on the team now...he'd definitely be behind Thomas, Horry and Oberto....as he is by far the worst defender of the 3...
Time to..shut up about it...and hope Landy doesn't beat him out by seasons end...the only reason he hasn't yet is that he lacks Scola's experience.
spurms
02-26-2008, 01:17 AM
yes and scola did not make houston the second best defensive team and the best rebounding team in the NBA.
Indazone
02-26-2008, 01:22 AM
hehehe
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/bloggers/tom-ziller/
By: Tom Ziller
Why Folks Picked the Houston Rockets
I think this is why people picked the Houston Rockets as a title contender last fall.
By this, I mean: Twelve straight victories, including a 20-point win over New Orleans a few days ago. The Rockets beat Chicago on Sunday, with Tracy McGrady scoring 24 points on 13 FGAs and adding 8 assists, several of those to... improbable Rookie of the Year contender Luis Scola, who scored 17 and has seven double-digit scoring nights in his last nine games.
It took a while, but Houston's stew is really coming together. The defense is statistically #2 in the league -- a Rick Adelman team, with the #2 defense! The offense, again, is coming along. After three months with nothing but awful emitting from the point guard position, Rafer Alston's providing stability. The key: He's not having to shoot much, as Scola soaks up a lot more offense than old power forwards Chuck Hayes and Juwan Howard did. This is precisely why so many of us thought Scola acquisition was huge -- he instantly became the needed third option between Yao Ming and McGrady necessary to keep the shots falling when Options #1 and #1a were unavailable.
Houston should cool off at some point, and we're seemingly always one bounce away from a protracted McGrady injury. But this offense should only get smoother with time. If Adelman (and Shane Battier) can keep the defensive standards high, we once again have a very dangerous team come April and May.
whottt
02-26-2008, 02:11 AM
yes and scola did not make houston the second best defensive team .
You're absolutely right, he didn't.
whottt
02-26-2008, 05:14 AM
so when pop said the trade made him wanted to spit did it mean he thought scola sucked? obviously the coach thought he had talent...i guess you know more than pop.
I don't know...why don't you go ask Pop why he okayed the trade...you do know he's a lot more than just a coach don't you?
He has final say on all trades...
Could be psychology...
Indazone
02-26-2008, 10:54 AM
psychology? :baby :lmao
whottt
02-26-2008, 01:07 PM
psychology? :baby :lmao
Yeah psychology...I mean what is to be gained by saying Scola is a turd with stupid fans and I'm glad I traded him...
Even if it is true.
Pop was complimentary of Ron Mercer too...
Why give the player extra motivation for when he plays against you?
Trainwreck2100
02-26-2008, 01:30 PM
Now that Yao's done for the season Scola's gonna tear up the opp... :lol :lol
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