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Twisted_Dawg
03-24-2008, 07:02 AM
When asked what he thought of Stackhouse's cheap shot on Manu, Avery Johnson said, "When you play a guy like Ginobili, you have to be man. He was a man."

Another of many stupid statements by Avery Johnson. So in Avery's world it is okay to cheap shot a player, continue the action after Manu was knocked down and then get tech'd? He is clearly proving he is one of the worst coaches in the league not to mention plain stupid. And to think we retired that little MOFO's jersey.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 07:11 AM
Manu should have never given up number 6

Brutalis
03-24-2008, 07:12 AM
stupid ass spurs retiring his number for what reason?

what a joke. can the unretire it?

TDMVPDPOY
03-24-2008, 07:14 AM
stupid ass spurs retiring his number for what reason?

what a joke. can the unretire it?

no you cantm but i will change his jersey, instead of SPURS, it be "los spurs"

mikeanthony21
03-24-2008, 07:21 AM
When asked what he thought of Stackhouse's cheap shot on Manu, Avery Johnson said, "When you play a guy like Ginobili, you have to be man. He was a man."

Another of many stupid statements by Avery Johnson. So in Avery's world it is okay to cheap shot a player, continue the action after Manu was knocked down and then get tech'd? He is clearly proving he is one of the worst coaches in the league not to mention plain stupid. And to think we retired that little MOFO's jersey.

...and we retired his number for WHAT reason??
:pctoss

ChuckD
03-24-2008, 07:21 AM
This is why Avery Johnson should NEVER, EVER be a coach on the Spurs bench, assistant or otherwise.

Supreme_Being
03-24-2008, 07:25 AM
It's not just Avery. It's the whole Mavs team.

Capt Bringdown
03-24-2008, 07:25 AM
Dude's an ass. Tear that jersey banner down or set it on fire, stat!

mikeanthony21
03-24-2008, 07:26 AM
This is why Avery Johnson should NEVER, EVER be a coach on the Spurs bench, assistant or otherwise.

Who was Avery trying to impress with that comment? Daddy Mark?

Brutalis
03-24-2008, 07:31 AM
we should start an online petition, not that it'd make a difference but just to see how many people would sign it

some_user86
03-24-2008, 07:45 AM
I think it starts from the top down. I think Cuban's stupidity infiltrates the entire Mavs organization. Avery is just a mentally weak coach and is susceptible to Cuban's idiocy. As far I can remember, Nellie obviously wasn't. I think Cuban will find himself selling the team after he fires the next coach after Avery and can't turn the team around to championship-level basketball again (two or three more years tops). He just interferes too much into the court decision-making aspects of the team.

Avery needs some time as an assistant somewhere to learn how to more mentally tough and how to better interact with players. But I think he has shown flashes of what it takes to be a good coach, he just needs more training.

mrsmaalox
03-24-2008, 07:58 AM
From Yahoo! Sports:

"Stackhouse was ejected following his second technical of the game; the other came for using Ginobili’s face to help get up after the two collided going for a rebound late in the third quarter.

“It’s not a big deal,” Ginobili said. “We were both competing.”

Said Stackhouse: “Nothing new with him.”

Now, who is being a man here, and who is being a punk?

honestfool84
03-24-2008, 08:07 AM
From Yahoo! Sports:

"Stackhouse was ejected following his second technical of the game; the other came for using Ginobili’s face to help get up after the two collided going for a rebound late in the third quarter.

“It’s not a big deal,” Ginobili said. “We were both competing.”

Said Stackhouse: “Nothing new with him.”

Now, who is being a man here, and who is being a punk?

id say its safe to say ginobili was being the man here, and stacky was being the douche bag.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 08:10 AM
Avery was right....to a point. You do have to be a man to play against Ginobili....problem is when Avery said "man" Stackhouse thought he said "punk bitch" :lol

WalterBenitez
03-24-2008, 08:14 AM
POP, I know you get mad easily, but your student AJ is stupid, right?

jmard5
03-24-2008, 08:15 AM
When asked what he thought of Stackhouse's cheap shot on Manu, Avery Johnson said, "When you play a guy like Ginobili, you have to be man. He was a man."

Avery is just implying that Stackhouse's recent actions proved that he is now a girl. :elephant

gospursgojas
03-24-2008, 08:24 AM
Fuck avery but don't worry his days as a head coach are soon coming to an end.

angel_luv
03-24-2008, 08:26 AM
When I saw the thread title, I assumed it was a Mark Cuban quote.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 08:29 AM
When I saw the thread title, I assumed it was a Mark Cuban quote.


:lol

TheProfessor
03-24-2008, 08:29 AM
What the hell does that even mean?

tmtcsc
03-24-2008, 08:33 AM
What the hell does that even mean?


It means that the Mavs have NO ONE who can play Ginobili.

Sigz
03-24-2008, 08:34 AM
He sounds funny when he talks. :)

Twisted_Dawg
03-24-2008, 08:36 AM
we should start an online petition, not that it'd make a difference but just to see how many people would sign it

...Start it.

WalterBenitez
03-24-2008, 08:43 AM
What the hell does that even mean?

I'd say that he was trying to say that Stackhouse is HIS man!
:oink

peewee's lovechild
03-24-2008, 08:48 AM
It means that the Mavs have NO ONE who can play Ginobili.

I'm totally distracted by your avatar.

smeagol
03-24-2008, 08:50 AM
Avery defenders?

The Truth #6
03-24-2008, 08:52 AM
Manu should have never given up number 6

I thought the Spurs should have never given Avery #6 to begin with as that was Walter Berry's number.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 08:57 AM
Avery defenders?
lol @ smeagol calling them all out! :hungry:

Duncanoypi
03-24-2008, 08:58 AM
Stackhouse was a man, now he is a pussy....

VaSpursFan
03-24-2008, 09:01 AM
Stackhouse was a man, now he is a pussy....

stack has always been a pussy :lol :lol he's right up there with terry competing for who can be the bigger va-jay-jay :lol

1Parker1
03-24-2008, 09:05 AM
Turning loose the fight: The Mavericks got physical with the Spurs, particularly in Jerry Stackhouse's case.

The shooting guard spent a good portion of Sunday matching points and elbows with Manu Ginobili.

"It's nothing new with him," Stackhouse said. "He flails and falls and does a whole lot of that [stuff] throughout the course of the game, and it's always the second guy that gets caught. I think that's what they saw."

One of Stackhouse's two technical fouls came when he and Ginobili hit the floor while tangled up late in the third quarter.

"Everybody's out there fighting," Kidd said. "Emotion is part of the game. It can help you, and at times it can hurt you. But you got to keep going."

LilMissSPURfect
03-24-2008, 09:07 AM
Dang I hate SNATCHhouse's IGNORANCE! Can the NBA implement an IQ requirement...both for fans and players? :bang :bang

Shaolin-Style
03-24-2008, 09:09 AM
Was stackhouse ever a man?

Or has he always been a caveman?

JustSpurs
03-24-2008, 09:14 AM
Shithouse has never been a man.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 09:15 AM
"It's nothing new with him," Stackhouse said. "He flails and falls and does a whole lot of that [stuff] throughout the course of the game, and it's always the second guy that gets caught. I think that's what they saw."

Well, when that guy takes the first guy down by the neck, that can happen.



Dumbass.

Ginofan
03-24-2008, 09:18 AM
:lol oh Avery...I just don't understand you.

I understand the physicallity of the game, elbows and shoving is all part of a good game, but come on...shoving someone's face into the floor is a straight up bitch move. Try to be more honest next time Avery.

Spurminator
03-24-2008, 09:22 AM
Heard in a state prison... "Man, they locked my ass up for shooting a guy, but they didn't hear what he said about my mom."

boutons_
03-24-2008, 09:23 AM
In spite of silly look-at-me tee-shirts on Cuban, Avery's in a precarious position. Dirk's injury takes some heat off. Miss the playoffs or out in round one, Avery can hide behind Dirk's injury. And Jason hasn't worked out at all well.

Real Men don't talk about "be a man". They Just Do It, like our scrawny Manu putting a hard blockout on beefy Prickhouse.

Shaolin-Style
03-24-2008, 09:30 AM
"It's nothing new with him," Stackhouse said. "He flails and falls and does a whole lot of that [stuff] throughout the course of the game, and it's always the second guy that gets caught. I think that's what they saw."

Rephrase
"He's always consistent like that," Stackhouse said. "He boxes out and rebounds and does a whole lot of that good work throughout the course of the game, and it's always the second guy that gets violent. I think that's what they saw."

Avery Johnson said of Stackhouse, "When you try to play a guy like Ginobili, you have to be good. He wasn't good."

picnroll
03-24-2008, 09:36 AM
I'm a proud member of the "They never should have retired Avery's number" club.

LilMissSPURfect
03-24-2008, 09:40 AM
I'm a proud member of the "They never should have retired Avery's number" club.
:toast :toast

1Parker1
03-24-2008, 09:42 AM
I'm a proud member of the "They never should have retired Avery's number" club.


:tu

johngateswhiteley
03-24-2008, 09:46 AM
i can't believe all the Avery hate...its so childish.

TMTTRIO
03-24-2008, 09:46 AM
AJ's just mad because the Spurs almost gave Manu his #6 when he came on with the Spurs:lol

sribb43
03-24-2008, 09:50 AM
avery = :donkey

Shank
03-24-2008, 09:53 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.

MaNuMaNiAc
03-24-2008, 09:55 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.
aaaand the Maverick village idiot finally shows his face :rolleyes

Findog
03-24-2008, 09:55 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.

Uh oh Shank, you're bringing a much-needed dose of reality to the thread. Prepare to get flamed.

Don't cry for Manu, Argentina!

DarrinS
03-24-2008, 09:56 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.


:violin

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 09:59 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.
it's no surpise you can't recognize clean, hard, aggressive play.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 09:59 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.


So in no way whatsoever was Stackhouse wrong in bringing Ginobili down by the neck and then pushing down on his face while Ginobili's face was on the ground?

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:00 AM
Uh oh Shank, you're bringing a much-needed dose of reality to the thread. Prepare to get flamed.

Don't cry for Manu, Argentina!
are you saying Stack wasn't dirty or are you saying Manu deserved Stacks dirty tactics.

Twisted_Dawg
03-24-2008, 10:00 AM
I'm a proud member of the "They never should have retired Avery's number" club.

I am a charter member of that proud club. What I have always wanted to know is what dumb ass in Spurs management pushed for retiring his jersey?
Whose initial idea was it?

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:01 AM
So in no way whatsoever was Stackhouse wrong in bringing Ginobili down by the neck and then pushing down on his face while Ginobili's face was on the ground?

Of course he was wrong. So was Ginobili for excessive contact on the box out. Manu was trying to goad Stack into losing his cool, and he succeeded. But let's put to bed this "Manu is an innocent angel" horseshit.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:02 AM
Of course he was wrong. So was Ginobili for excessive contact on the box out. Manu was trying to goad Stack into losing his cool, and he succeeded. But let's put to bed this "Manu is an innocent angel" horseshit.


Quote me once where I said Manu was an innocent angel and I will never post here again.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:02 AM
are you saying Stack wasn't dirty or are you saying Manu deserved Stacks dirty tactics.

I'm saying if you watch the clip, Manu put a little something extra into that box out and goaded Stackhouse into losing his cool. It doesn't excuse what Stackhouse did, but it's what Manu does, excessive contact to get under opposing players skin.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:03 AM
Quote me once where I said Manu was an innocent angel and I will never post here again.

Not you specifically, but the entire tenor of this thread: "How dare he retaliate against our poor Manu!"

picnroll
03-24-2008, 10:03 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.
"Bowen's going to end someone career someday."
"Ginobilli's going to end someones career someday."
"Blah, blah, blah."

When is this going to happen dildo? Bowen's 36 and been in the league 12 years. He'd better hurry up.
Ginobilli gets racked up by players all the time and takes ten times what he gives.
The guy most likely to put someone out of the league with his penchant for undercutting players sits at the end of Dallas's bench, Howard.

sribb43
03-24-2008, 10:04 AM
avery blows and so does stack...maybe both will get suspened for the rest of the season

Shank
03-24-2008, 10:04 AM
Of course he was wrong. So was Ginobili for excessive contact on the box out. Manu was trying to goad Stack into losing his cool, and he succeeded. But let's put to bed this "Manu is an innocent angel" horseshit.

You're barking up the wrong tree if you think this fanbase is going to think Manu is ever wrong.

midgetonadonkey
03-24-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm saying if you watch the clip, Manu put a little something extra into that box out and goaded Stackhouse into losing his cool. It doesn't excuse what Stackhouse did, but it's what Manu does, excessive contact to get under opposing players skin.

Did you just learn the word goad? I've seen you use it over a dozen times in like 3 different threads.

picnroll
03-24-2008, 10:05 AM
Of course he was wrong. So was Ginobili for excessive contact on the box out. Manu was trying to goad Stack into losing his cool, and he succeeded. But let's put to bed this "Manu is an innocent angel" horseshit.
Excessive contact. What a load of bullshit. That was a standard box out of a guy trying to gain position by moving into you. You want to see illegal blocking out you need to watch Dampier a little.

thispego
03-24-2008, 10:06 AM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.
:lmao
lol what a load of bullshit. shank i thought you were knowledgable

get back to me when ginobili actually injures someone. everyone gets poked in the face, pushed and slapped around. stackhouse is a pussy and so are you.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:06 AM
Not you specifically, but the entire tenor of this thread: "How dare he retaliate against our poor Manu!"


So I am supposed to be ok with someone pulling down a Spurs player backwards by the neck and then pushing on his face?

Retaliating like Stack did is bush league. The best way you retaliate is keep your cool, make shots and win the game. Stackhouse's actions are evident of a "me first" attitude.

If you lack the ability to retaliate with your play instead of plays like that, you do not belong on an NBA court.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:06 AM
Did you just learn the word goad? I've seen you use it over a dozen times in like 3 different threads.

Since you're such a fan of synonyms, how bout cajole? How do you like that apple?

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:06 AM
You're barking up the wrong tree if you think this fanbase is going to think Manu is ever wrong.

Yes because all Spurs fans think alike. :rolleyes

I also noticed you failed to answer my question.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:07 AM
Since you're such a fan of synonym, how bout cajole? How do you like that apple?


Good word! :tu

:)

Kriz-Maxima
03-24-2008, 10:07 AM
I'm saying if you watch the clip, Manu put a little something extra into that box out and goaded Stackhouse into losing his cool. It doesn't excuse what Stackhouse did, but it's what Manu does, excessive contact to get under opposing players skin.

It was a box out, it aint Manu's fault that people in the league dont know how to do that anymore.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:08 AM
So I am supposed to be ok with someone pulling down a Spurs player backwards by the neck and then pushing on his face?



No, you're not supposed to be okay with it. And we're not supposed to be surprised that Manu once again got under an opposing player's skin by flailing his arms out and exhibiting poor body control.

thispego
03-24-2008, 10:09 AM
I'm saying if you watch the clip, Manu put a little something extra into that box out and goaded Stackhouse into losing his cool. It doesn't excuse what Stackhouse did, but it's what Manu does, excessive contact to get under opposing players skin.
some players play likethat at the end of the 4th in close games. some players play like that all game. i dont see anything wrong with that, just a sign of wanting the win more. stackhouse is a pussy and so are you.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:10 AM
some players play likethat at the end of the 4th in close games. some players play like that all game. i dont see anything wrong with that, just a sign of wanting the win more. stackhouse is a pussy and so are you.

Ah, poow wittle wispwego. I'm intimidated by your Internet Tough Guy act.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:10 AM
No, you're not supposed to be okay with. And we're not supposed to be surprised that Manu once again got under an opposing player's skin by flailing his arms out and exhibiting poor body control.


Blame the player who allowed Manu under his skin.

WalterBenitez
03-24-2008, 10:11 AM
Not you specifically, but the entire tenor of this thread: "How dare he retaliate against our poor Manu!"

In order to protect Manu's body, SAS asked to NBA to allow Manu to be the first NBA player wearing an NFL uniform :oink

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:13 AM
Blame the player who allowed Manu under his skin.

Stackhouse was wrong to do what he did. How many times do I have to state that? But like he said, this is nothing new with Ginobili. He's not a completely innocent party to the altercation, just a bit craftier and wiser.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:15 AM
Stackhouse was wrong to do what he did. How many times do I have to state that? But like he said, this is nothing new with Ginobili. He's not a completely innocent party to the altercation, just a bit craftier and wiser.


Do you feel the end justifies the means? I know shank does.

thispego
03-24-2008, 10:15 AM
Ah, poow wittle wispwego. I'm intimidated by your Internet Tough Guy act.
but manu is exhibiting poor body control he could really hurt somebody ! :cry

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:15 AM
I'm saying if you watch the clip, Manu put a little something extra into that box out and goaded Stackhouse into losing his cool. It doesn't excuse what Stackhouse did, but it's what Manu does, excessive contact to get under opposing players skin.There was no goading. What Manu did was Hard Aggressive play. The type of basketball I grew up watching with Magic, Bird, Isiah, and Jordan. What Stack did was pure panzie ass. Doesn't really matter, because Karma is a bitch.

Shank
03-24-2008, 10:16 AM
Blame the player who allowed Manu under his skin.

So you're saying it wasn't just a box out, but rather an attempt to mess with Stackhouse? That much is obvious - with the way Manu did his little act and the cowered near the scorer's table with his usual palms-up, missing tooth parade. He does this shit all the time and none of you will admit that he purposefully throws his body around and then steps back as though he didn't intend to do it. It's bush-league bullshit and you all buy into it because he comes off all innocent with the way he struggles with the English language to give out his gracious quotes after the game. And you can call Stackhouse anything you want. I'm surprised he kept his cool enough to not go Kermit Washington on the little fuck.

K-State Spur
03-24-2008, 10:17 AM
I'm saying if you watch the clip, Manu put a little something extra into that box out and goaded Stackhouse into losing his cool. It doesn't excuse what Stackhouse did, but it's what Manu does, excessive contact to get under opposing players skin.

that type of box out happens 50 times in any given night. that you take exception to it tells me that you never watch dampier grab a rebound.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:17 AM
It was a box out, it aint Manu's fault that people in the league dont know how to do that anymore.
I know, when did a hard box out become antics? It's Mavs fan, so I guess it's to be expected.

K-State Spur
03-24-2008, 10:18 AM
relax fellas, no big deal with this quote.

when you have cajones as tiny as Stack does, it helps to have your coach remind you of your gender on occasion. that's all.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:18 AM
So you're saying it wasn't just a box out, but rather an attempt to mess with Stackhouse? That much is obvious - with the way Manu did his little act and the cowered near the scorer's table with his usual palms-up, missing tooth parade. He does this shit all the time and none of you will admit that he purposefully throws his body around and then steps back as though he didn't intend to do it. It's bush-league bullshit and you all buy into it because he comes off all innocent with the way he struggles with the English language to give out his gracious quotes after the game. And you can call Stackhouse anything you want. I'm surprised he kept his cool enough to not go Kermit Washington on the little fuck.


No I am saying it was a box out. And I have said many a time that Manu throws his body around and if anything it will shorten his career before it will anyone else's.

monosylab1k
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
There's no way to justify what Stack did. If you don't like the way a guy is playing you, you answer back on the court, you don't pull dirty bullshit like that. That's just enabling the guy, confirming that whatever he's doing is working.

Just beat him on the court if you're so sick of what he's doing.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
So you're saying it wasn't just a box out, but rather an attempt to mess with Stackhouse? That much is obvious - with the way Manu did his little act and the cowered near the scorer's table with his usual palms-up, missing tooth parade. He does this shit all the time and none of you will admit that he purposefully throws his body around and then steps back as though he didn't intend to do it. It's bush-league bullshit and you all buy into it because he comes off all innocent with the way he struggles with the English language to give out his gracious quotes after the game. And you can call Stackhouse anything you want. I'm surprised he kept his cool enough to not go Kermit Washington on the little fuck.inside the mind of a maverick. No freakin wonder.

Shank
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
I know, when did a hard box out become antics? It's Mavs fan, so I guess it's to be expected.

What you're not getting is that it wasn't just this one play. It was everything leading up to it, from this game to any other they've played this season. And not just from the Mavericks - from every team in the league that has to endure watching this Muppet-looking motherfucker fall into people 20 times a game. What is it about Manu that his sense of gravity and balance are weaker than a toddler just learning to walk?

picnroll
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
No, you're not supposed to be okay with it. And we're not supposed to be surprised that Manu once again got under an opposing player's skin by flailing his arms out and exhibiting poor body control. He didn't flail his arm out douchebag. He put a forearm in Stackhouse's chest to keep him boxed out. Shithouse was just pissed because Manu was tattooing the Mavs ass again and Shithouse was a poor sport as always. He's a bitch, that's all.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:20 AM
Do you feel the end justifies the means? I know shank does.

I feel like this is not the first time Manu has flailed his limbs around recklessly and risked injuring another player. I wouldn't cheer what Stack did or if another player takes a similar approach. I'll just say that by doing these kinds of things repeatedly that piss off and irritate other players, when they don't believe it's unintentional, Manu is playing with fire. Other than that, I have no judgment on what transpired.

WalterBenitez
03-24-2008, 10:21 AM
I'd love to show how Bad boys (DET) used to box out ... that were good and strong plays, but even that you shouldn't catch anybody's neck from behind, in NFL that is a foul and automatic 15 yards ...

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:22 AM
What you're not getting is that it wasn't just this one play. It was everything leading up to it, from this game to any other they've played this season. And not just from the Mavericks - from every team in the league that has to endure watching this Muppet-looking motherfucker fall into people 20 times a game. What is it about Manu that his sense of gravity and balance are weaker than a toddler just learning to walk?


But this thread is specifically about that play. If you want to create a "Manu: flopping and flailing throughout history" thread be my guest but this thread is centered on what happened yesterday.

Ginofan
03-24-2008, 10:22 AM
Do you think there would be this much bitching about Manu "endangering players with his wild reckless type of play" if he happened to be on the whiner's team? Hell freakin' no!

Damn, just get over it already. Manu puts the beat down on your team night in and night out, he just can't help being that good.

Supreme_Being
03-24-2008, 10:23 AM
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2940/shal5.png (http://imageshack.us)


...Now she's a woman.

DarrinS
03-24-2008, 10:23 AM
So you're saying it wasn't just a box out, but rather an attempt to mess with Stackhouse? That much is obvious - with the way Manu did his little act and the cowered near the scorer's table with his usual palms-up, missing tooth parade. He does this shit all the time and none of you will admit that he purposefully throws his body around and then steps back as though he didn't intend to do it. It's bush-league bullshit and you all buy into it because he comes off all innocent with the way he struggles with the English language to give out his gracious quotes after the game. And you can call Stackhouse anything you want. I'm surprised he kept his cool enough to not go Kermit Washington on the little fuck.



:dramaquee

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:23 AM
He didn't flail his arm out douchebag.

Okay, whatever you say, homer shitbag.


He put a forearm in Stackhouse's chest to keep him boxed out.

He also drove Stackhouse to the floor after the successful boxout had been accomplished.


Shithouse was just pissed because Manu was tattooing the Mavs ass again and Shithouse was a poor sport as always. He's a bitch, that's all

Takes one to know one I guess. Manu shrugged it off, I don't understand why you guys can't as well.

monosylab1k
03-24-2008, 10:23 AM
And if you really want the league to look closer at Manu's flailing around, then next time he catches someone in the face with a flailing limb, that guy needs to FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE and fall to the ground writhing in pain like he just got hit by a grenade. Flop around like a bitch for a few minutes and maybe next time Manu flails around the refs will take notice.

You've got to be a little smarter about it than to just take a guy down by his neck.

Shank
03-24-2008, 10:23 AM
inside the minds of a maverick. No freakin wonder.

Since when did I play for the team? Feel free to insult me and the Maverick fanbase all you want - we're not the ones that stand up and applaud injuries to other players like the Spurs fans in section 114 did yesterday. You want to talk about being "inside the heads" of a team's fans? What does that behavior exhibit?

MaNuMaNiAc
03-24-2008, 10:24 AM
So you're saying it wasn't just a box out, but rather an attempt to mess with Stackhouse? That much is obvious - with the way Manu did his little act and the cowered near the scorer's table with his usual palms-up, missing tooth parade. He does this shit all the time and none of you will admit that he purposefully throws his body around and then steps back as though he didn't intend to do it. It's bush-league bullshit and you all buy into it because he comes off all innocent with the way he struggles with the English language to give out his gracious quotes after the game. And you can call Stackhouse anything you want. I'm surprised he kept his cool enough to not go Kermit Washington on the little fuck.I think its pretty obvious that Manu throws himself to get contact, but it didn't happen here jackass. How you can surmise that it did is beyond me. Second of all, there is no excuse for what Stackhouse did, and you trying to play the whole "I understand why he did it" just leads people to believe you're about as mature and intelligent as he is, which is 5 fucking years old worth.

This altercation shouldn't result on a suspension, but it definitely should result in a big fucking fine.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:24 AM
I'd love to show how Bad boys (DET) used to box out ... that were good and strong plays, but even that you shouldn't catch anybody's neck from behind, in NFL that is a foul and automatic 15 yards ...

And there's a reason you had to use the past tense to describe what they did.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:25 AM
What you're not getting is that it wasn't just this one play. It was everything leading up to it, from this game to any other they've played this season. And not just from the Mavericks - from every team in the league that has to endure watching this Muppet-looking motherfucker fall into people 20 times a game. What is it about Manu that his sense of gravity and balance are weaker than a toddler just learning to walk?
Mavs just don't get it. You would think getting bounced in the 1st round would have been a wake up call. Maybe being lottery bound will do it, but maybe not.

Supreme_Being
03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Since when did I play for the team? Feel free to insult me and the Maverick fanbase all you want - we're not the ones that stand up and applaud injuries to other players like the Spurs fans in section 114 did yesterday. You want to talk about being "inside the heads" of a team's fans? What does that behavior exhibit?



Just admit it, you dumbfuck. Stackhouse is Manu's bitch.

DarrinS
03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
And there's a reason you had to use the past tense to describe what they did.


Because it was BEFORE the wussification of the NBA.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
But this thread is specifically about that play. If you want to create a "Manu: flopping and flailing throughout history" thread be my guest but this thread is centered on what happened yesterday.

And of course because it was Manu and not Jacque Vaughan or Ime Udoka, people are going to take his past antics into account. How can you be so obtuse to think that people that aren't Spurs fans are going to look at that play yesterday as if it exists in a vacuum?

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Since when did I play for the team? Feel free to insult me and the Maverick fanbase all you want - we're not the ones that stand up and applaud injuries to other players like the Spurs fans in section 114 did yesterday. You want to talk about being "inside the heads" of a team's fans? What does that behavior exhibit?


And the Spurs fans weren't the ones in Dallas in 2006 who spit on a 12 year old girl wearing a Spurs t-shirt.

If anyone blames an entire fanbase for the actions of a few idiots, then that person is pretty fucking stupid.

LilMissSPURfect
03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
Replace manu with anyone else (preferable a black player)and stack gets 3 games or more....

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:26 AM
And there's a reason you had to use the past tense to describe what they did.
Kobe, Dwade, and all the greats do that all the freakin time. Shoot, you'll even see Jkidd do it if you'll open up your eyes.

1Parker1
03-24-2008, 10:28 AM
So you're saying it wasn't just a box out, but rather an attempt to mess with Stackhouse? That much is obvious - with the way Manu did his little act and the cowered near the scorer's table with his usual palms-up, missing tooth parade. He does this shit all the time and none of you will admit that he purposefully throws his body around and then steps back as though he didn't intend to do it. It's bush-league bullshit and you all buy into it because he comes off all innocent with the way he struggles with the English language to give out his gracious quotes after the game. And you can call Stackhouse anything you want. I'm surprised he kept his cool enough to not go Kermit Washington on the little fuck.

:lmao :lmao His usual missing tooth parade!?!?! He comes off innocent because of the way he struggles with the English Lanuage?

Mav Fan is reaching and should stop now before he looks like a further :drunk

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:29 AM
Because it was BEFORE the wussification of the NBA.

1) The Bad Boys actually tried to injure opposing players. That's a step beyond hard-nosed play. Like I said, there's a reason you can't get away now with the shit they tried to pull.

2) Basketball is a much more pleasing sport to watch than rugby. I don't want to watch 200-198 Paul Westhead track meets without any defense whatsover, but I also don't want to watch a bunch of pussies compensate for their overall lack of talent by injuring opposing players in lieu of playing basketball.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:29 AM
And of course because it was Manu and not Jacque Vaughan or Ime Udoka, people are going to take his past antics into account. How can you be so obtuse to think that people that aren't Spurs fans are going to look at that play yesterday as if it exists in a vacuum?


So, when i don't agree with you, you resort to name calling. Well, I had you better than that but I guess not.

I understand what people think of Ginobili outside the Spurs fan base, I live in the middle of it up here, I just don't happen to agree with it. I didn't say people couldn't think what they want...they can, but I don't have to agree with it and despite your best efforts I am not changing my mind solely to agree with you.

MaNuMaNiAc
03-24-2008, 10:29 AM
:lmao :lmao His usual missing tooth parade!?!?! He comes off innocent because of the way he struggles with the English Lanuage?

Mav Fan is reaching and should stop now before he looks like a further :drunktoo late if you ask me

urunobili
03-24-2008, 10:29 AM
And if you really want the league to look closer at Manu's flailing around, then next time he catches someone in the face with a flailing limb, that guy needs to FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE and fall to the ground writhing in pain like he just got hit by a grenade. Flop around like a bitch for a few minutes and maybe next time Manu flails around the refs will take notice.

You've got to be a little smarter about it than to just take a guy down by his neck.
it's awesome how Manu is under the WHOLE Mavericks players...

Terry on the last 37 point home win got punked... Josh howard on that same game with the non called flagrant foul during the eternal ownage of Diop now Stack... what a nice collection he is having! :elephant

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:30 AM
Kobe, Dwade, and all the greats do that all the freakin time. Shoot, you'll even see Jkidd do it if you'll open up your eyes.

What Bad Boy Pistons tactics do those guys ape?

urunobili
03-24-2008, 10:30 AM
Since when did I play for the team? Feel free to insult me and the Maverick fanbase all you want - we're not the ones that stand up and applaud injuries to other players like the Spurs fans in section 114 did yesterday. You want to talk about being "inside the heads" of a team's fans? What does that behavior exhibit?go to other teams board and try to find ONE that created a thread to support Dirk dumbass... just suck it already you're owned by Ginobili

DarrinS
03-24-2008, 10:31 AM
And of course because it was Manu and not Jacque Vaughan or Ime Udoka, people are going to take his past antics into account. How can you be so obtuse to think that people that aren't Spurs fans are going to look at that play yesterday as if it exists in a vacuum?


If you think we're so damned biased, why don't you just listen to how Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson describe it?

Mark Jackson said it was a dirty play (by Stack). He later backed off a bit and said it wasn't a clean play.

Meanwhile, Van Gundy says it was just two NBA players being physical and that he didn't even believe that Manu should've been called with a foul.


So, who's being a homer here?

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:31 AM
Okay, whatever you say, homer shitbag.



He also drove Stackhouse to the floor after the successful boxout had been accomplished.



Takes one to know one I guess. Manu shrugged it off, I don't understand why you guys can't as well.

so youre saying that Manu, who you called scrawny in an earlier post, is strong enough to take down stackhouse with his back to him and no arms around him!?

wow, stack must be the one with a feabile sense of balance (like a toddler learning to walk) rather than Manu or a weak ass player. your call.

1Parker1
03-24-2008, 10:31 AM
My only comment to Mavs fans who think that the play Stackhouse made was justified; Karma always comes back to bite you.

There's a reason the Mavs have folded the last two postseasons and are struggling this season to make it to the playoffs. Watch teams like the Pistons and Spurs who play the right way night in and night out. They don't go out and take cheap shots and smaller players, they don't get easily frazzled, they don't let their childesh emotions get in the way of how they play the game.

If Mavs players knew how to keep their head in the game and acted "less of a man" and more like a good "sportsman" they wouldn't constantly be in the predictaments they're in.

Shank
03-24-2008, 10:32 AM
:lmao :lmao His usual missing tooth parade!?!?! He comes off innocent because of the way he struggles with the English Lanuage?

Mav Fan is reaching and should stop now before he looks like a further :drunk

Call me out directly if you're going to, cocksucker. Say "Shank is reaching". I'm the insane one here. Not the others.

It's not a reach to say Manu does this shit and then plays innocent. Any casual observer could tell you that, you homer.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:32 AM
1) The Bad Boys actually tried to injure opposing players. That's a step beyond hard-nosed play. Like I said, there's a reason you can't get away now with the shit they tried to pull.

2) Basketball is a much more pleasing sport to watch than rugby. I don't want to watch 200-198 Paul Westhead track meets without any defense whatsover, but I also don't want to watch a bunch of pussies compensate for their overall lack of talent by injuring opposing players in lieu of playing basketball.
to compare Manu to the badboys is silly. Kobe does the same thing in big games. Mavs are str8 up pussies wanna be thugs. There's a reason the greatest point guard in the league can't play with you guys.

mavsfan1000
03-24-2008, 10:33 AM
Stackhouse is such a thug. He has no game anymore and just relies on being dirty to make up for it. Why the fuck did we resign him?

FromWayDowntown
03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
When Dirk Nowitzki flops and flails its somehow artistic or evidence of greatness. When Manu Ginobili does similar things, only in his balls out style, its dirty.

I guess maybe Manu shouldn't play so hard.

The notion that Spurs fans are oblivious to Manu's chippiness is wrong, I think. But I also think that if Manu played for the Mavericks, the fans who are upset with him would see things very, very differently.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
Call me out directly if you're going to, cocksucker. Say "Shank is reaching". I'm the insane one here. Not the others.

It's not a reach to say Manu does this shit and then plays innocent.
does what, plays hard? He certainly didn't hit Stack in the throat or face.

MaNuMaNiAc
03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
Call me out directly if you're going to, cocksucker. Say "Shank is reaching". I'm the insane one here. Not the others.

It's not a reach to say Manu does this shit and then plays innocent. Any casual observer could tell you that, you homer.
What other Mav fan did you think she was referring to?? you absolute idiot :lol

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
So, when i don't agree with you, you resort to name calling. Well, I had you better than that but I guess not.

Where did I call you a name? All I stated was that you're exhibiting obtuse behavior if you claim that a non-Spurs fan can look at that play without calling to mind Manu's history of creating excessive contact. You know very well that Bowen can't get tangled up in an altercation with Chris Paul without it conjuring up every other controversy he's been involved in, so why is that any different than Ginobili?

DarrinS
03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
Call me out out of the closet directly if you're going to, because I'm proud to be a cocksucker.


Fixed.

Slinkyman
03-24-2008, 10:34 AM
if you were the coach of a team that won 67 games last year and you're looking at not making the playoffs this year you'd say some crazy shit too. AJ's probably hoping he doesn't get fired.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 10:35 AM
Call me out directly if you're going to, cocksucker. Say "Shank is reaching". I'm the insane one here. Not the others.

It's not a reach to say Manu does this shit and then plays innocent. Any casual observer could tell you that, you homer.
you have monday's off work don;t you?

urunobili
03-24-2008, 10:36 AM
Stackhouse is such a thug. He has no game anymore and just relies on being dirty to make up for it. Why the fuck did we resign him?
first rational statement from a mav fan on this thread... :clap

NASpurs
03-24-2008, 10:37 AM
Call me out directly if you're going to, cocksucker. Say "Shank is reaching". I'm the insane one here. Not the others.

It's not a reach to say Manu does this shit and then plays innocent. Any casual observer could tell you that, you homer.
Stackhouse is such a thug. He has no game anymore and just relies on being dirty to make up for it. Why the fuck did we resign him?You're a fucking moron dude. Does Mark Cuban pay you with his dick up your ass to post or what?

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:37 AM
Dirk is just as much of a flopper as Manu. If he gets touched at all, he flails and begs for calls & looks around like someone stuck something in his ass...go watch the film from the loss to the lakers. he did the same thing there.

here's an older one for you too.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=w_olyd9ulgQ

monosylab1k
03-24-2008, 10:37 AM
Fixed.
Oohhhhhhh Damnnnnnnnn!

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:37 AM
Where did I call you a name? All I stated was that you're exhibiting obtuse behavior if you claim that a non-Spurs fan can look at that play without calling to mind Manu's history of creating excessive contact. You know very well that Bowen can't get tangled up in an altercation with Chris Paul without it conjuring up every other controversy he's been involved in, so why is that any different than Ginobili?


How can you be so obtuse

You called me obtuse...that is not a compliment. :)

I never said non-Spurs fans couldn't do that. I said that this thread was speaking specifically to that incident, not to Manu's history.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:37 AM
Where did I call you a name? All I stated was that you're exhibiting obtuse behavior if you claim that a non-Spurs fan can look at that play without calling to mind Manu's history of creating excessive contact. You know very well that Bowen can't get tangled up in an altercation with Chris Paul without it conjuring up every other controversy he's been involved in, so why is that any different than Ginobili?please list the plays of excessive contact against the Mavs. I bet you can't do it.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:38 AM
to compare Manu to the badboys is silly. Kobe does the same thing in big games.

I didn't compare Manu to the BB Pistons, I was simply replying to another poster who was waxing nostalgic over the warmed-over turds that passed for basketball that they put on.


There's a reason the greatest point guard in the league can't play with you guys

Yep, it would be former Spurs "great" Avery Johnson.

Shank
03-24-2008, 10:38 AM
you have monday's off work don;t you?

Why would I have a Monday off? You have no idea what I do for a living.

Spurminator
03-24-2008, 10:40 AM
Stack lost his cool and cost his team for it. Manu is no angel on the court, and I have no problem with other players getting physical with a player like Manu, but Stack went overboard getting two technicals out of it.

Letting a player get into your head isn't playing like a man.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:40 AM
Yep, it would be former Spurs "great" Avery Johnson.

One thing we agree on.

WildcardManu
03-24-2008, 10:41 AM
So Mavs fans, tell us why Cuban isn't sending the tape in for further review?

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:41 AM
Stack lost his cool and cost his team for it. Manu is no angel on the court, and I have no problem with other players getting physical with a player like Manu, but Stack went overboard getting two technicals out of it.

Letting a player get into your head isn't playing like a man.

:toast

There, is that so hard, Spurs fans? I've been saying the same thing.

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:41 AM
I didn't compare Manu to the BB Pistons, I was simply replying to another poster who was waxing nostalgic over the warmed-over turds that passed for basketball that they put on.



Yep, it would be former Spurs "great" Avery Johnson.

lets start finding more excuses for why your team has tanked. choked in the finals. choked in the first round. choked since getting kidd. choked yesterday against the Spurs AND lost their cool & showed how moronic they can be in their comments.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:43 AM
:toast

There, is that so hard, Spurs fans? I've been saying the same thing.

So did I, but i got called obtuse. :)

(post #65)

NASpurs
03-24-2008, 10:43 AM
Stack lost his cool and cost his team for it. Manu is no angel on the court, and I have no problem with other players getting physical with a player like Manu, but Stack went overboard getting two technicals out of it.

Letting a player get into your head isn't playing like a man.Stackhouse's brain hasn't fully evolved yet from the caveman days so what do you expect? That part of the brain that deals with actual reasoning is not there yet. Give him a few thousand years.

WildcardManu
03-24-2008, 10:43 AM
lets start finding more excuses for why your team has tanked. choked in the finals. choked in the first round. choked since getting kidd. choked yesterday against the Spurs AND lost their cool & showed how moronic they can be in their comments.

The alphabet called they want the big D, all that's left is a big C they want them to take it.

CHOKE TOWN

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:44 AM
choked choked choked choked

Ooh, you huwt my fweewings. Four rings and yet crippling insecurity. It's pathetic.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 10:45 AM
Why would I have a Monday off? You have no idea what I do for a living.
it doesn't seem much! trolling to vent your frustrations around here is not the best way to start your week... that i can tell already... the more you post... the bigger and better you make us! and Manu... well he already is god 4 y'all so... not much higher he could get... :clap

urunobili
03-24-2008, 10:46 AM
Ooh, you huwt my fweewings. Four rings and yet crippling insecurity. It's pathetic.
it is official now... you have been

:owned

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:46 AM
please list the plays of excessive contact against the Mavs. I bet you can't do it.
I'm still waiting Findog. I'm sure there has to be a few terry nuts punches, howard karate chops, or stack sucker punches you can list.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:46 AM
So did I, but i got called obtuse. :)

(post #65)

You were playing coy over why people wouldn't take Manu's history into account. Is coy less harsh than obtuse? :)

BonnerDynasty
03-24-2008, 10:46 AM
stupid ass spurs retiring his number for what reason?

what a joke. can the unretire it?

Shank
03-24-2008, 10:47 AM
The alphabet called they want the big D, all that's left is a big C they want them to take it.

CHOKE TOWN

OH SHIT! I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT HOW BADLY YOU JUST BURNED THE CITY OF DALLAS! OH HO HO HO - I GET IT! THE ALPHABET CALLED! THE ALPHABET! WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

The alphabet can't even work a phone, dumbass.

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:47 AM
Ooh, you huwt my fweewings. Four rings and yet crippling insecurity. It's pathetic.

insecurity of what!? YOU are the on in here crying about Spurs fans supporting their players and what was an obvious un-clean play. i think you have the insecurity of the fact that your team is on its way down the shit hole.

stack is a :donkey bottom line. If manu wore a mavs jersey, you would think he walked on water. he & dirk could have flop lessons together.

WildcardManu
03-24-2008, 10:48 AM
OH SHIT! I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT HOW BADLY YOU JUST BURNED THE CITY OF DALLAS! OH HO HO HO - I GET IT! THE ALPHABET CALLED! THE ALPHABET! WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

The alphabet can't even work a phone, dumbass.


:elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:48 AM
I'm still waiting Findog. I'm sure there has to be a few terry nuts punches, howard karate chops, or stack sucker punches you can list.


Waiting for confirmation on Manu's history of excessive flopping and poor body control? Really? I have to scour youtube and come up with a list? You watch Spurs games, you know damn well what Manu is about once you take off the silver and black glasses. I don't have to bullet-form shit.

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:48 AM
now were analyzing jokes........they're getting desperate here........

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:50 AM
Waiting for confirmation on Manu's history of excessive flopping and poor body control? Really? I have to scour youtube and come up with a list? You watch Spurs games, you know damn well what Manu is about once you take off the silver and black glasses. I don't have to bullet-form shit.

again, dirk does the SAME thing....it happens. its a part of the game now. mostly due to the lack of inconsistency of foul calls by the refs.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:50 AM
Waiting for confirmation on Manu's history of excessive flopping and poor body control? Really? I have to scour youtube and come up with a list? You watch Spurs games, you know damn well what Manu is about once you take off the silver and black glasses. I don't have to bullet-form shit.
all I asked was for specific plays against the Mavs. that should be easy.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:51 AM
insecurity of what!? YOU are the on in here crying about Spurs fans supporting their players and what was an obvious un-clean play.

I'm defending my team within reason, and learn to read, I haven't defended or condoned Stackhouse's conduct.


i think you have the insecurity of the fact that your team is on its way down the shit hole.

We'll see. I don't need to feel better about myself by calling out Grizzlies and T-Wolves fans.


If manu wore a mavs jersey, you would think he walked on water.

If Manu wore a Mavs jersey, I would be understanding of why he gets under the skin of opposing players. Doesn't mean I wouldn't want him on my team, but I don't wear green and blue glasses.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 10:52 AM
Waiting for confirmation on Manu's history of excessive flopping and poor body control? Really? I have to scour youtube and come up with a list? You watch Spurs games, you know damn well what Manu is about once you take off the silver and black glasses. I don't have to bullet-form shit.
are you justifying your teams cheap shots with this statement?

WildcardManu
03-24-2008, 10:52 AM
again, dirk does the SAME thing....it happens. its a part of the game now. mostly due to the lack of inconsistency of foul calls by the refs.


Stackhouse should ask the bigs around the league how it is to play most of the game under the basket they will tell him how many elbows and knees are thrown without fouls being called. They take the punishement and play.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:52 AM
You were playing coy over why people wouldn't take Manu's history into account. Is coy less harsh than obtuse? :)


I am not trying to be coy or obtuse or any other 50 cent word. :) People can judge the incident any way they want. My personal take is that this particular thread was dealing specifically with that incident yesterday and I felt Stackhouse was in the wrong. There are people who are going to take Manu's style of play over his NBA career into account. That's is their take. There are also people who hate the Spurs so intensely that no matter what any Spurs player does, especially Manu, its wrong. Manu could walk into the buliding and start warming up when Jerry Stackhouse walks in and stabs him and someone like Shank is going to be ok with that. "He had it coming!"

and before you say it, yes, it works the other way too....Manu could walk up to Stackhouse's locker, steal his mom's diabetes meds and there will be Spurs fans who will try to blame Stack for leaving them out. :)

My point, again, is this. I thought what Stackhouse did was wrong, even if he felt Manu elbowed him, you have to be smarter than that.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:53 AM
all I asked was for specific plays against the Mavs. that should be easy.

What is the relevance? I never said I condoned Terry's nutpunch or Stack using Manu's face as a trampoline, in fact I've condemned them. You're just trying to deflect attention away from Manu.

MajorMike
03-24-2008, 10:54 AM
You can't use the word 'smarter' in a sentence with 'Stackhouse.'

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:54 AM
are you justifying your teams cheap shots with this statement?

Take the time to read what else I've written in this thread and you'll have your answer.

Findog
03-24-2008, 10:56 AM
again, dirk does the SAME thing....it happens. its a part of the game now. mostly due to the lack of inconsistency of foul calls by the refs.

Dirk does not drive opposing players into the ground after boxing them out. Yes, he flops to exaggerate contact and get calls, so does 95% of the rest of the league. That's another discussion for another thread.

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:56 AM
Of course he was wrong. So was Ginobili for excessive contact on the box out. Manu was trying to goad Stack into losing his cool, and he succeeded. But let's put to bed this "Manu is an innocent angel" horseshit.

you said manu was wrong for "excessive" contact on the box out.

if thats not saying that you think that what manu did was wrong, then what the hell is that?

how is there excessive contact on a box out? are you only allowed to touch a player for a certain amount of time?

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 10:56 AM
again, dirk does the SAME thing....it happens. its a part of the game now. mostly due to the lack of inconsistency of foul calls by the refs.


True. Sadly, a lot of it comes from the Euro League players although their American counterparts are picking it up quickly. Manu and Dirk are really bad about it but its not just them.

cash459
03-24-2008, 10:57 AM
Dirk does not drive opposing players into the ground after boxing them out. Yes, he flops to exaggerate contact and get calls, so does 95% of the rest of the league. That's another discussion for another thread.

which is exactly what i was saying. Manu DOES do the same thing. So if youre gonna bitch about Manu's actions, follow it up with something about dirk too.

if youre so much about being able to see everything, show it in your posts.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 10:57 AM
What is the relevance? I never said I condoned Terry's nutpunch or Stack using Manu's face as a trampoline, in fact I've condemned them. You're just trying to deflect attention away from Manu.
no, you mentioned Manu's history, so you must have some specific examples of Manu's "antics" against the Mavs. The attention is squarely on Manu's play, but you're not able to list specific examples. Don't give me the cop out answer of his reputation around the league. Be specific, and I'm only asking for plays against the Mavs.

Shank
03-24-2008, 11:03 AM
you said manu was wrong for "excessive" contact on the box out.

if thats not saying that you think that what manu did was wrong, then what the hell is that?

how is there excessive contact on a box out? are you only allowed to touch a player for a certain amount of time?

That comes down to how you see the play evolving - was Stackhouse 100% to blame for pulling Manu down? Or was Manu already leaning into Stack and likely to go down and Stackhouse took it further than was necessary?

I see the latter. And that's what pissed Stackhouse off - that he couldn't just box out without falling down/into him.

to21
03-24-2008, 11:05 AM
I can see how he could frustrate other players like that. I mean dude is boxing you out so good, you have to "be a man" and force him to the ground from behind.

TMTTRIO
03-24-2008, 11:05 AM
Yes Manu does flop and sometimes it does get rough but I'd rather have a guy who comes out and puts everything into his play and plays 100%+ every night and takes a beating every night. Also your talking about Manu hurting people but how about all the players that have injured Manu too? The thing about Manu though is if you hurt him instead of going at somebody or swinging at them he'll just play even harder and hurt them that way.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 11:07 AM
That comes down to how you see the play evolving - was Stackhouse 100% to blame for pulling Manu down? Or was Manu already leaning into Stack and likely to go down and Stackhouse took it further than was necessary?

I see the latter. And that's what pissed Stackhouse off - that he couldn't just box out without falling down/into him.
Please make up your mind already. Manu went too high with the elbow or he's falling down on stack?

MannyIsGod
03-24-2008, 11:10 AM
:lol @ Mav fan not realizing what a good clean hard box out is and acting as if it somehow instigated this.

Stack wasn't pissed at Manu taking him down because HE took Manu down. He was pissed that his team had just blown an opportunity to blow the game wide open and instead down. He was pissed that he had just seen his meal ticket crumple on the other end of the floor. He was pissed that he had just been outworked on the glass by this skinny big nosed white boy who even though he can't speak perfect English speaks it better than most Americans while speaking at least 2 other languages as well.

He was pissed because he's tired of getting owned in every way you can think of but instead of responding the way players like Manu do, he responded in a bitch way. If you hit Manu in the face does he swing back? If you knock him down does he run at you? If you foul him hard does he take a cheap shot? No. Manu fucks you where it hurts the most. He fucking owns you on the court.

The only thing Stackhouse proved was that he's still (and probably always will be) mentally weak. I remember when this guy was supposed to be a franchise player. Right.

BonnerDynasty
03-24-2008, 11:11 AM
Manu is a thug for playing 110% every single minute he is on the court..

Not to mention all of the careers he has ended in the last 6 years.

What an abomination.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 11:12 AM
:lol @ Mav fan not realizing what a good clean hard box out is and acting as if it somehow instigated this.

Stack wasn't pissed at Manu taking him down because HE took Manu down. He was pissed that his team had just blown an opportunity to blow the game wide open and instead down. He was pissed that he had just seen his meal ticket crumple on the other end of the floor. He was pissed that he had just been outworked on the glass by this skinny big nosed white boy who even though he can't speak perfect English speaks it better than most Americans while speaking at least 2 other languages as well.

He was pissed because he's tired of getting owned in every way you can think of but instead of responding the way players like Manu do, he responded in a bitch way. If you hit Manu in the face does he swing back? If you knock him down does he run at you? If you foul him hard does he take a cheap shot? No. Manu fucks you where it hurts the most. He fucking owns you on the court.

The only thing Stackhouse proved was that he's still (and probably always will be) mentally weak. I remember when this guy was supposed to be a franchise player. Right.
well done.

Ginofan
03-24-2008, 11:14 AM
That comes down to how you see the play evolving - was Stackhouse 100% to blame for pulling Manu down? Or was Manu already leaning into Stack and likely to go down and Stackhouse took it further than was necessary?

I see the latter. And that's what pissed Stackhouse off - that he couldn't just box out without falling down/into him.

But how is Stackhouse getting pissed off Manu's fault? It's not Manu's fault that Stackhouse can't control his emotions. Manu is supposed to care about every single players' fragile state of emotion and make sure he doesn't piss anyone off? That's weaksauce.

MannyIsGod
03-24-2008, 11:16 AM
Shank can't come to terms with how fragile Stackhouse's ego must be. You can't disrespect Stack and expect him not to explode. I mean who the hell does Manu think he is. No one here should expect a grown man like Stack to have self control. Never.

Like Shank said, we should all be proud of Stack for not going Kermit Washington all over Manu's face. Someone give that man a citizen ship award already!

Shank
03-24-2008, 11:20 AM
Shank can't come to terms with how fragile Stackhouse's ego must be. You can't disrespect Stack and expect him not to explode. I mean who the hell does Manu think he is. No one here should expect a grown man like Stack to have self control. Never.

Like Shank said, we should all be proud of Stack for not going Kermit Washington all over Manu's face. Someone give that man a citizen ship award already!

Exactly.

Now go die in a fire, Manny.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 11:22 AM
Exactly.

Now go die in a fire, Manny.
it is official for you too now... you have been

:owned

Cry Havoc
03-24-2008, 11:25 AM
Dirk does not drive opposing players into the ground after boxing them out. Yes, he flops to exaggerate contact and get calls, so does 95% of the rest of the league. That's another discussion for another thread.

Yes. Because Manu's goal for the entire play was to put his back to Stackhouse on a box out, so he could be in good position to slam him to the ground.

How does THAT work, exactly? You ever tried to wrestle someone down while facing away from them?

Manu HAD the box out. He was in position for the board. Why the FUCK would he want to go backwards any farther than he already had, taking him out of the play? How the FUCK could you insinuate that Manu's intent was to initiate "excessive contact" with his FUCKING BACK!? That is the weakest shit I've seen a Mavs fan bring to the board.

The sad thing is, if you're right, it means Manu's back is stronger than Stack's entire body, since Manu managed to take him down while not even looking at him. Hilarious. Absolutely freaking hilarious. Manu must be practicing some kind of drunken monkey fucker boxing that tells you how to disable someone while they aren't even within reach of your hands. :lmao

Shank
03-24-2008, 11:27 AM
it is official for you too now... you have been

:owned

What does that even mean? Seriously - we're posting on an Internet forum. BFD.

Shank
03-24-2008, 11:29 AM
Yes. Because Manu's goal for the entire play was to put his back to Stackhouse on a box out, so he could be in good position to slam him to the ground.

How does THAT work, exactly? You ever tried to wrestle someone down while facing away from them?

Manu HAD the box out. He was in position for the board. Why the FUCK would he want to go backwards any farther than he already had, taking him out of the play? How the FUCK could you insinuate that Manu's intent was to initiate "excessive contact" with his FUCKING BACK!? That is the weakest shit I've seen a Mavs fan bring to the board.

The sad thing is, if you're right, it means Manu's back is stronger than Stack's entire body, since Manu managed to take him down while not even looking at him. Hilarious. Absolutely freaking hilarious. Manu must be practicing some kind of drunken monkey fucker boxing that tells you how to disable someone while they aren't even within reach of your hands. :lmao

"Into the Wild" was a pretty good film. I'm thinking of reading the book now.

leemajors
03-24-2008, 11:33 AM
drunken monkey fucker boxing sounds like the shit. the only part i really had a problem with was trying to shove his neck in the ground.

monosylab1k
03-24-2008, 11:35 AM
At least the reaction from most Spurs fans has tempered somewhat. It was a dirty play, for sure, but yesterday Aggie Hoops Dick was trying to pin attempted murder on Stack.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 11:40 AM
What does that even mean? Seriously - we're posting on an Internet forum. BFD.
oh 4 real? wow... i didn't realize that... thanks for your omnipresent knowledge oh lord! GTF outta here already suck up... if u still didn't get bored of justifying your team's cheap shots try visit the mavs forum to get more quorum

Cry Havoc
03-24-2008, 11:41 AM
At least the reaction from most Spurs fans has tempered somewhat. It was a dirty play, for sure, but yesterday Aggie Hoops Dick was trying to pin attempted murder on Stack.

I think he's a world-class douchenozzle, but what he did wasn't horrible. It was just incredibly petulant and stupid, and smacks of "I'm pissed we're losing so I'm going to go after someone to unleash my childish anger at them."

I mean, what happens if no one grabs Stack's arm? Does he actually follow through with that punch? I think Spurs fans are more upset at the -potential- of that action rather than what actually happened.

O-Factor
03-24-2008, 11:43 AM
About the only Mav I respect is Dirk. Always classy in interviews.

Stack can go fuck himself.

Cry Havoc
03-24-2008, 11:45 AM
Seriously Mavs fans, what the hell would you lose if you traded away Terry and Stackhouse? An inconsistent 6th-man? A bomber who tends to disappear or have 1-12 shooting performances? Trade those guys, trade them now, or release them. Anything. Get a 2nd round draft pick for either of them and go after some character guys who don't have to assert their manhood with their fists and street cred.

Whisky Dog
03-24-2008, 11:53 AM
:lol @ Mavfans talking about a dirty boxout

I've taken much harder shots and more contact on boxouts playing HS and college ball than what Manu gave to stack. You keep playing and when it's you gaining inside position you throw a little extra into someone's ribs. It's all part of the game.

Findog
03-24-2008, 11:56 AM
If you think we're so damned biased, why don't you just listen to how Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson describe it?

Mark Jackson said it was a dirty play (by Stack).

I have said the same thing here. What Stack did wasn't cool. He let Manu get inside his head and he lost his cool by lashing out.




Meanwhile, Van Gundy says it was just two NBA players being physical and that he didn't even believe that Manu should've been called with a foul.


So, who's being a homer here?

I'll just echo what I've already said and what Spurminator said, that Stack is th guiltier party but Manu is not an innocent angel in this exchange. You flail around and exhibit poor body control, and do it throughout your career, and drive guys into the ground after boxing them out, some of them are going to think it's intentional and take exception to it. Stack should've responded by getting in his face and having some words instead of using his head as a trampoline. I can condemn Stackhouse for what he did. Are you still going to insist that Manu is/was a perfect choir boy?

So, who's being the homer here?

Harry Callahan
03-24-2008, 11:58 AM
Why would I have a Monday off? You have no idea what I do for a living.

I can bet what you do for a living does not involve basketball in any way shape or form.

So Ginobili (in your mind) deserved to be maimed to extent of Rudy T for his awful actions against Stackhouse? What a stupid comment.

You try to paint all Spurs fans in the same color as a group of people in section 114, who supposedly cheered Dirk's injury. That is really rational.

I, for one, am sorry about what happened to Dirk. He is an excellent player, who had an awkward fall. He is one of the few good guys in that lockeroom. Too many punks are in there, like Howard, Stackhouse, and the nut puncher.

What I am not sorry about, is seeing the window close on the Maverick's "Window of Opportunity" to win a championship in the near future. That is due to Maverick "Fans" such as yourself with your ignorant comments.

The entire Maverick's atmosphere has been poisoned by that owner. He has a limited shelf life. If Dallas wants to turn it around, Cuban needs to sell the team.

Findog
03-24-2008, 11:59 AM
Yes. Because Manu's goal for the entire play was to put his back to Stackhouse on a box out, so he could be in good position to slam him to the ground.

How does THAT work, exactly? You ever tried to wrestle someone down while facing away from them?

Did you even watch the play? He'd already boxed him out and taken him out of the play. Then he used his elbow and arm to drive him to the ground. Insult Stack and call him a thug all you want, and he definitely overreacted, but you think Stackhouse blew his cool for no reason at all? Uh, okay, whatever you say.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:01 PM
Ipuncher.

What I am not sorry about, is seeing the window close on the Maverick's "Window of Opportunity" to win a championship in the near future. That is due to Maverick "Fans" such as yourself with your ignorant comments.
.

So us posters on Spurstalk are responsible for whatever adversity or misfortune the Mavericks face now? That's a great, hard-hitting take. I can't speak for the others, but I'm not Donnie Nelson, Avery Johnson or Mark Cuban.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:03 PM
Seriously Mavs fans, what the hell would you lose if you traded away Terry and Stackhouse? .

What makes you think we're opposed to getting rid of them and their contracts? I'd welcome it.

travis2
03-24-2008, 12:05 PM
Did you even watch the play? He'd already boxed him out and taken him out of the play. Then he used his elbow and arm to drive him to the ground. Insult Stack and call him a thug all you want, and he definitely overreacted, but you think Stackhouse blew his cool for no reason at all? Uh, okay, whatever you say.

Yeah, I saw the play. Got a question for you...how the hell do you DRIVE SOMEONE INTO THE GROUND when you are facing AWAY from your opponent with HIS ARM AROUND YOUR NECK?

You going to tell me that Manu magically managed to somehow levitate Stackhouse's arm and bring it around his own neck so he could maybe hold it with his chin?

There was NOTHING wrong with that box-out. There was EVERYTHING wrong with Stackhouse's tackle, aborted punch, and hand to the head.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:07 PM
Yeah, I saw the play. Got a question for you...how the hell do you DRIVE SOMEONE INTO THE GROUND when you are facing AWAY from your opponent with HIS ARM AROUND YOUR NECK?

What, Manu didn't know he was there? Manu was boxing out Invisible Man?




There was NOTHING wrong with that box-out.

Okay, homer. Manu is an angel that does no wrong.

travis2
03-24-2008, 12:09 PM
Nice deflection. Now answer the question, bitch.

Whisky Dog
03-24-2008, 12:10 PM
Findog's game has suddenly started to mirror the actual Findog's game. Nonexistent and embarrasing.

Harry Callahan
03-24-2008, 12:10 PM
So us posters on Spurstalk are responsible for whatever adversity or misfortune the Mavericks face now? That's a great, hard-hitting take. I can't speak for the others, but I'm not Donnie Nelson, Avery Johnson or Mark Cuban.

Spend a little more time reading my post before you post. Of course you are not responsible for the Maverick downfall. I am glad the Mavericks could be heading south very quickly, so posters like you may shut up and go away very soon.

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 12:10 PM
Why would Manu drive Stack into the ground when he had boxed him out so thoroughly and completely.

Do mavfans know the purpose of boxing out?

O-Factor
03-24-2008, 12:11 PM
Did you even watch the play? He'd already boxed him out and taken him out of the play. Then he used his elbow and arm to drive him to the ground. Insult Stack and call him a thug all you want, and he definitely overreacted, but you think Stackhouse blew his cool for no reason at all? Uh, okay, whatever you say.


Dude, you are being completely biased. Thats fine, the Mavs are your team. But its the paint, arms and elbows are everywhere.

But you are right Stack didn't blow his cool for no reason. Its frustrating and tough for teams to play a physical Spurs team. Thats why in 7 game series, no one wants to play us.

Killakobe81
03-24-2008, 12:12 PM
Manu plays very hard no doubt about that ...dirty not sye i would say that but the Purs (as champions) do sem to get the benefit of the doubt on calls ALL championship level teams do ...so for this to change teams need to beat teh SPurs consistently and at for the past 4-5 years no ONe has been able to ...once they stop winning they will be called for a lot more of their phsyical defense ...

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:13 PM
Nice deflection. Now answer the question, bitch.

What was the question? Was it, "Did Manu flail his limbs about recklessly and exhibit poor body control, because that's part of his repertoire for getting under the skin of opposing players?" The answer is yes. Hey, I'd like to have a savvy player do that for my team, but I'm not going to put on blue and green glasses and play dumb when opposing players take exception to it.

Stackhouse was the guiltier party for reacting the way he did.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:15 PM
Findog's game has suddenly started to mirror the actual Findog's game. Nonexistent and embarrasing.

Right, because I defend my team within reason, refuse to kiss Manu Ginobili's ass or agree 100% unreservedly with Spurs fans.

travis2
03-24-2008, 12:15 PM
What was the question? Was it, "Did Manu flail his limbs about recklessly and exhibit poor body control, because that's part of his repertoire for getting under the skin of opposing players?" The answer is yes. Hey, I'd like to have a savvy player do that for my team, but I'm not going to put on blue and green glasses and play dumb when opposing players take exception to it.

Stackhouse was the guiltier party for reacting the way he did.

Your reading comprehension must be really bad. Now go back to my original post and look for the sentence ending in a "?". That mark signifies a question.

I even led up to it with the phrase "Gotta question for you" so you wouldn't miss it. I obviously underestimated your ability to miss things.

himat
03-24-2008, 12:17 PM
Avery is trying to tell his team to stay tough. That's all.

As for Manu...he initiated some of the contact. I argued this a long time for a while yesterday.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:17 PM
Dude, you are being completely biased. Thats fine, the Mavs are your team. But its the paint, arms and elbows are everywhere.

But you are right Stack didn't blow his cool for no reason. Its frustrating and tough for teams to play a physical Spurs team. Thats why in 7 game series, no one wants to play us.

I can respect this take. :toast


Manu did something very savvy and got Stack to lose his cool.

diego
03-24-2008, 12:19 PM
Waiting for confirmation on Manu's history of excessive flopping and poor body control? Really? I have to scour youtube and come up with a list? You watch Spurs games, you know damn well what Manu is about once you take off the silver and black glasses. I don't have to bullet-form shit.

it takes all of 2 minutes to "scour youtube". the truth is you dont have anything, not even one incident to point too, on video or not.

meanwhile, in those same 2 minutes i can find you video of stackhouse injuring other players, being unprofessional, and being stupid. so who is it that has a history? who is the one talking out of his ass?

stackhouse is a little bitch, normally i would say the refs hanlded it fine but if the league suspends bowen for tangling with chris paul, they should suspend stackhouse for that stunt he pulled yesterday.

oski1000
03-24-2008, 12:20 PM
Unretire the number....Manu should use the number next season.... :clap :clap

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 12:20 PM
I can respect this take. :toast


Manu did something very savvy and got Stack to lose his cool.
you're a savvy troll.

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 12:21 PM
Right, because I defend my team within reason, refuse to kiss Manu Ginobili's ass or agree 100% unreservedly with Spurs fans.

Fair points but I didn't agree with you and got called obtuse for it. Nothing wrong with defending your favorite team or its players but you can't come to a Spurs fan board and not expect them to do the same.

FromWayDowntown
03-24-2008, 12:23 PM
I can respect this take. :toast


Manu did something very savvy and got Stack to lose his cool.

Which makes me wonder why AJ would defend Stackhouse's actions by calling him "a man." I always thought that calling someone "a man" suggests not only toughness, but also a degree of composure and restraint. I don't think of someone acting "like a man" by flipping out and acting foolishly.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:24 PM
Fair points but I didn't agree with you and got called obtuse for it. Nothing wrong with defending your favorite team or its players but you can't come to a Spurs fan board and not expect them to do the same.

I just said expecting non-Spur fans to look at what happened yesterday without taking into account his history of flopping and flailing his limbs everywhere is an example of obtuseness. Didn't mean it as an insult, and I think you're one of the better, non-homer Spurs fans here. And I understand this is a Spurs board and very few, if any, Spurs fans are going to agree with me. It's the Internet. We're supposed to bicker and argue.

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 12:27 PM
Why would Manu drive Stack into the ground when he had boxed him out so thoroughly and completely?

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:27 PM
Your reading comprehension must be really bad. Now go back to my original post and look for the sentence ending in a "?". That mark signifies a question.

I even led up to it with the phrase "Gotta question for you" so you wouldn't miss it. I obviously underestimated your ability to miss things.

Oh, did I not express proper reverence for your snide and condescending question? Did I not refuse to stick to my guns and continue to argue my side?

samikeyp
03-24-2008, 12:28 PM
I just said expecting non-Spur fans to look at what happened yesterday without taking into account his history of flopping and flailing his limbs everywhere is an example of obtuseness.

I never said that. I said this thread was addressing only the incident in question.

Twisted_Dawg
03-24-2008, 12:29 PM
Findog....I don't agree with your posts, but do respect your right to have an opinion. I do admire your conviction.

But have you thought there may be repressed reasons why you believe as you do? Perhaps the real reason you beleive as you do is that the Mavs and Dirk have been exposed as a bunch of pussies and are going down hill real fast? They have not been the same since the Golden State Massacre last year, Dirk has peaked and is on the way down and was exposed by Stephen Jackson, Avery is rapidly gaining the title as the most inept coach in the league, the Jason Kidd trade was a disaster, and you have a owner that is a real dick with man titties. Now all of that is a lot of shit to deal with and process. The Mavs really have a bleak future.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:29 PM
Why would Manu drive Stack into the ground when he had boxed him out so thoroughly and completely?


Why does Manu flail his limbs everywhere and piss off opposing players? I dunno, it usually works in getting guys to lose their cool and that helps the Spurs, perhaps?

You can't just acknowledge that Manu is savvier than Stackhouse and won the exchange. You have to kiss the Spurs ass at the same time.

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Why does Manu flail his limbs everywhere and piss off opposing players? I dunno, it usually works in getting guys to lose their cool and that helps the Spurs, perhaps?

You can't just acknowledge that Manu is savvier than Stackhouse and won the exchange. You have to kiss the Spurs ass at the same time.That didnt' answer my question.
Why would Manu drive Stack into the ground when he had boxed him out so thoroughly and completely?

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 12:35 PM
I can acknowledge Manu thoroughly and completely boxed Stackhouse out. That was savvy.

Findog
03-24-2008, 12:36 PM
That didnt' answer my question.

No, you have a different perception of what happened in that play, and we won't agree. Therefore your question and my answer are basically two ships passing in the night.

himat
03-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Which makes me wonder why AJ would defend Stackhouse's actions by calling him "a man." I always thought that calling someone "a man" suggests not only toughness, but also a degree of composure and restraint. I don't think of someone acting "like a man" by flipping out and acting foolishly.

The only thing I can think of is that he wants his team to stay tough because they will need to do that without Dirk.

roycrikside
03-24-2008, 12:43 PM
I'm glad that you all are such homers that you can't see there's a pattern involving Ginobili's play and the response from other teams around the league. He's reckless and his 'style' (ie - falling down 20 times a game and flailing about) is going to end someone's career one day. The day is coming where someone is going to get so fed up with his bullshit that they break his fucking nose at center court. One fanbase, Spurs fans, will be disgusted and cry outrage. The other 29 will all know he's had it coming for some time and applaud in unison.

You can call Avery, Stackhouse, the Mavericks, etc. whatever you want. Doesn't change the fact that that big-nosed douchebag sees fit to hurl his body aimlessly around the court every game. If he played for any other team, none of you would think his way of playing is that great.

I'm pretty sure every team and every fanbase would fall in love with Manu pretty damn quickly if he was on their squad. He's everything teammates and fans want in a player. He's tough, he's clutch, he's responsible, he's unselfish and he doesn't make excuses, ever. When has a teammate ever had a negative thing to say about him?

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 12:47 PM
No, you have a different perception of what happened in that play, and we won't agree. Therefore your question and my answer are basically two ships passing in the night.My question was directed at the mavfan who said Manu took Stack down after completely and thoroughly boxing him out.

So don't answer and keep your S.S. Douchewhine on it's original course.

roycrikside
03-24-2008, 12:50 PM
:lmao :lmao His usual missing tooth parade!?!?! He comes off innocent because of the way he struggles with the English Lanuage?

Mav Fan is reaching and should stop now before he looks like a further :drunk


Manu speaks English and gives better, more thoughtful answers than 98% of the NBA.

2centsworth
03-24-2008, 12:51 PM
My question was directed at the mavfan who said Manu took Stack down after completely and thoroughly boxing him out.

So don't answer and keep your S.S. Douchewhine on it's original course.
dude, you're wasting your time with Findog. He has somehow convinced himself that Manu's excellent blockout was something else. Then he says Manu has history, but can't come up with specific examples of this history against the mavs. He's being a savvy troll.

tiga
03-24-2008, 12:51 PM
Stackhouse comments are ridiculous, +1 for Avery... sad little general.

roycrikside
03-24-2008, 12:54 PM
I know Manu is savvy and has a way of getting under people's skin, but it usually involves him taking a charge or driving to the basket when he's got the ball. On that play it was just a basic box out against a dude way more muscular than him. Stack was being a punk simply because he was frustrated that the Mavs were losing and Dirk was out. I can't really think of anything specific he did last game that would annoy the Mavs. Maybe the one offensive rebound he snatched from Dirk, I'm not sure.

All I know is quotes like the one Avery gave here is a perfect reason why I'm 100% against TimVP's idea of Pop hiring Avery as an assistant coach after the Mavs shitcan him. I'm pretty sure both Manu and Tony despise Avery and they don't have the history with him that Tim does.

SenorSpur
03-24-2008, 12:57 PM
Any Mavs fan who refers to Manu as a flopper is akin to the old saying of "the pot calling the kettle black". Mavs homers, you've got "no leg to stand on here" because your noted superstar (Dirk) always flails, stumbles awkwardly and glares at the refs trying to get fouls called.

Those tactics employed by Manu, Dirk and others like them are doing may be bush league to some, but ALL competitive players are looking for an edge.

hater
03-24-2008, 12:58 PM
Dirk flops more than Manu. GMAFB

ElNono
03-24-2008, 01:01 PM
This whole thing comes down to mental toughness and the opposite, being a total mental midget. It doesn't matter how though you think you are, if you let other players get into your head, you're done. You're never going to see Manu arguing or trash talking another player. He will instead proceed to channel the anger into destroying your team and winning the game. That is, obviously, the smart thing to do.
On the other hand, you have the Stackhouses and Terrys who like to showboat, talk trash, act though, and let other players get into their heads. At that point, it's no longer about the basketball game, it's about their mini battle with the other guy. And when they can't live up to expectations, they implode.

So I don't really understand what Avery is talking about.
If being a man means putting your petty interests above the team, when the team really needs you, with your captain down and the need to right the ship and win, then the Mavs really need a new coach.

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:10 PM
My question was directed at the mavfan who said Manu took Stack down after completely and thoroughly boxing him out.

So don't answer and keep your S.S. Douchewhine on it's original course.

It would seem that the douchewhining all emanates from the spurs side. I have yet to find one post in this thread from a mav fan condoning what Stackhouse did or even being upset or angry with Manu aside from Shank. Both guys shrugged it off.

So keep the silver and black glasses bolted firmly on.

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:12 PM
dude, you're wasting your time with Findog. He has somehow convinced himself that Manu's excellent blockout was something else. Then he says Manu has history, but can't come up with specific examples of this history against the mavs..

What the hell?

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 01:12 PM
It would seem that the douchewhining all emanates from the spurs side. I have yet to find one post in this thread from a mav fan condoning what Stackhouse did or even being upset or angry with Manu aside from Shank. Both guys shrugged it off.

So keep the silver and black glasses bolted firmly on.Then why are you here?

Whining about whining?

Oh, that's right -- you're whining about Manu's boxing Stack out, trying to characterize it as something else.

FromWayDowntown
03-24-2008, 01:13 PM
The only thing I can think of is that he wants his team to stay tough because they will need to do that without Dirk.

But AJ's statement strikes me as advocating just the opposite of that. Of course, by repeatedly complaining about the Spurs' players in the media (Bowen in 2006, Manu (apparently) yesterday), AJ seems to concede that his team isn't as tough, mentally or physically, as the Spurs. Still, in praising Stackhouse, AJ seems to be saying "It's okay to lose your cool, so long as it's because someone was getting physical with you." To me, that's just the opposite of the message that AJ should be sending. It's okay to back up Stackhouse, but to praise him seems extremely odd to me.

SenorSpur
03-24-2008, 01:14 PM
Then why are you here?

Whining about whining?

Oh, that's right -- you're whining about Manu's boxing Stack out.

:lmao

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:15 PM
Then why are you here?

Bickering on the Internet. Why are you here?

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 01:16 PM
Bickering on the Internet. Why are you here?Calling out whiners.

LEONARD
03-24-2008, 01:17 PM
Stack WAS a man...seeing Manu in the fetal position was funny though...

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 01:19 PM
Stack WAS a man...seeing Manu in the fetal position was funny though...Yeah, I'm sure you enjoyed Stack's pushing down on Manu's neck. :rolleyes Bitch fans enjoy bitch moves.

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:20 PM
Calling out whiners.

Or whining about whining, if we go with your nomenclature.

to21
03-24-2008, 01:21 PM
Bickering on the Internet. Why are you here?Why the hell are you here? Just to call a bunch of Spurs fans "Homers". Spur fans that are on a Spurs Forum mind you.

We get it, you and Skank believe it was Manu's fault he got thrown to the ground because he threw himself into Stack.

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:22 PM
Why the hell are you here? Just to call a bunch of Spurs fans "Homers". Spur fans that are on a Spurs Forum mind you.

That's right, Kori and timvp have closed off registration to fans of other teams.




We get it, you and Skank believe it was Manu's fault he got thrown to the ground because he threw himself into Stack

No, you don't get it, since you apparently can't read.

ChumpDumper
03-24-2008, 01:23 PM
Or whining about whining, if we go with your nomenclature.So you admit you're whining.

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:27 PM
So you admit you're whining.

I admit that I'm 43 years old and living in my parents basement, while eating a KFC bowl and contemplating the Mavs season circle the drain while Bob Dylan's Blood on the Tracks plays on the stereo.

to21
03-24-2008, 01:27 PM
That's right, Kori and timvp have closed off registration to fans of other teams.

Then go find a website full of dumbass Mav fans with your same takes and you can call those people "Homers".

No, you don't get it, since you apparently can't read.

Yeah your right I must have just read the posts you had calling people here "Homers". My apologies.

Now leave.

himat
03-24-2008, 01:32 PM
But AJ's statement strikes me as advocating just the opposite of that. Of course, by repeatedly complaining about the Spurs' players in the media (Bowen in 2006, Manu (apparently) yesterday), AJ seems to concede that his team isn't as tough, mentally or physically, as the Spurs. Still, in praising Stackhouse, AJ seems to be saying "It's okay to lose your cool, so long as it's because someone was getting physical with you." To me, that's just the opposite of the message that AJ should be sending. It's okay to back up Stackhouse, but to praise him seems extremely odd to me.

That makes perfect sense, but either way he or J Kidd has to step up and lead this team to the playoffs. I don't know what is wrong with Avery, but he seemed like an amazing coach the past few years.

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:36 PM
Now leave

Okay, thin-skinned forum nanny. Please forward my posts along to Kori and timvp and I'll be banned in no time.

urunobili
03-24-2008, 01:36 PM
It would seem that the douchewhining all emanates from the spurs side. I have yet to find one post in this thread from a mav fan condoning what Stackhouse did or even being upset or angry with Manu aside from Shank. Both guys shrugged it off.

So keep the silver and black glasses bolted firmly on.


Stackhouse is such a thug. He has no game anymore and just relies on being dirty to make up for it. Why the fuck did we resign him?

hater
03-24-2008, 01:40 PM
I admit that I'm 43 years old and living in my parents basement,

seriously?

:lmao

Findog
03-24-2008, 01:48 PM
seriously?

:lmao

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89344

What's wrong with that? I weigh 450 lbs, I haven't seen my penis in 6 years, and I've never touched a woman's ladybits. The only thing that soothes such crushing disappointment in life is a KFC bowl.

travis2
03-24-2008, 02:12 PM
Oh, did I not express proper reverence for your snide and condescending question? Did I not refuse to stick to my guns and continue to argue my side?

It wasn't snide and condescending, it was an actual question.

However, if you want to continue to be a little bitch like your hero Stackhouse, by all means continue.

Until this little outburst of yours, I actually had respect for your posts. Silly me.

Gino
03-24-2008, 02:14 PM
Yeah, I'm sure you enjoyed Stack's pushing down on Manu's neck. :rolleyes Bitch fans enjoy bitch moves.

Yeah, Im sure there weren't any Spurs fans who applauded Horry for taking out Nash.