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DMCemantics
I said you hate Christians. I didn't say you hate all Christians.
Blake
You keep moving the goalpost, adding and removing words to suit your needs.
I didn't call out your honesty. I said I don't trust you to be honest. I never said you're dishonest.
^Here comes dip hoping for some company
These are very old terms and in today’s understanding of living things nature is clearly GENETIC factors and nurture is ENVIRONMENTAL factors.
You don’t know what the fck you are talking about.
The environment of the first cell (zygote) in what is to become a rat, elephant, cricket, or human being are all the chemical and physical factors that play a role in the development of the zygote. The genetic factor is DNA. The way the environment effects the DNA is hugely important. Moving further along in development, a mother may behave a certain way towards a child that cues hormonal biological changes in the brain. This hormonal change is an Environmental influence even if it involves biological mechanisms, which all of behavior does as it involves the firing of neurons in a specific manner based on environmental input. Your use of the word environment means absoLutely nothing while EVERYTHING is biological as it pertains to living things.
So thanks for your meaningless input.
You should stop.
Now.
These are very old terms and in today’s understanding of living things nature is clearly GENETIC factors and nurture is ENVIRONMENTAL factors.
You don’t know what the fck you are talking about.
The environment of the first cell (zygote) in what is to become a rat, elephant, cricket, or human being are all the chemical and physical factors that play a role in the development of the zygote. The genetic factor is DNA. The way the environment effects the DNA is hugely important. Moving further along in development, a mother may behave a certain way towards a child that cues hormonal biological changes in the brain. This hormonal change is an Environmental influence even if it involves biological mechanisms, which all of behavior does as it involves the firing of neurons in a specific manner based on environmental input. Your use of the word environment means absoLutely nothing while EVERYTHING is biological as it pertains to living things.
So thanks for your meaningless input.
You should stop.
Now.
I’ll say it twice.
What? Like that isn't in the parlance of our times. It's as popular as dames, pals, fellas, jalopy, neat-o, incel and cuck.
Where did that come from? Are you 80?
A neuroscientist explains why Christian evangelicals are wired to believe Donald Trump’s gaslighting lies
many psychologists have pointed out that he is constantly gaslighting his base—a term that refers to a strategic attempt to get others to question their direct experience of reality.
fact of the matter is there are many who swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
Most of his fervent supporters are convinced that Trump is the harbinger of truth when it comes to important issues like climate change—
which is really just a “hoax perpetrated by the Chinese government”.
a basic fact about the brain:
it takes more mental effort to reject an idea as false than to accept it as true.
In other words, it’s easier to believe than to not.
does it explain why conservatives, specifically evangelicals, are so easily duped by Donald Trump?
For Christian fundamentalists,
being taught to suppress critical thinking begins at a very early age.
It is the combination of the brain’s vulnerability to believing unsupported facts and aggressive indoctrination that create the perfect storm for gullibility.
Due to the brain’s neuroplasticity, or ability to be sculpted by lived experiences,
evangelicals literally become hardwired to believe far-fetched statements.
first taught to accept Biblical stories not as metaphors for living life practically and purposefully,
but as objective truth.
Mystical explanations for natural events train young minds to not demand evidence for beliefs.
As a result, the neural pathways that promote healthy skepticism and rational thought are not properly developed.
This inevitably leads to a greater susceptibility to lying and gaslighting by manipulative politicians,
and greater suggestibility in general.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/a-neuroscientist-explains-why-christian-evangelicals-are-wired-to-believe-donald-trumps-gaslighting-lies/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3334
understanding science is much harder than just saying " it, it's bull "
The oligarchy loves evangelicals because they are stupidly suggestible, gullible about eg, climate science, environmental pollution and destruction, all of which allows the oligarchy to amass Capital by exploiting the carbon economy and overriding environmental regulations.
iow
ignorant, gullible evangelicals are a huge reason why
America is ed and un able.
I wouldn't write off evangelicals as being just one thing, viz., the much bandied about CT oped about Trump.
I'm also inclined to point out lefty evo psych being used as a fig leaf for bigotry. Put down evangelicals as dumber claiming science backs you up. I wonder.
angle of the dangle
The bolded is BS.
The bolded is exactly what I mean, and it works both ways. Being hungry is one thing, actually making the assertion “I’m hungry” is not the same thing. Your stomach might be empty and growling, but at the point you had to communicate what your status is, you chose an option between ‘full, ok, hungry, etc’. You could also be lying, that’s a choice too.
Let’s add another very typical example: 7 year old kid is asked what religion he/she identifies with. Clearly a kid at that age is intellectually incapable of dissecting religion in full. Yet most of them will choose (most commonly the same religion as their parents or siblings). Is it a lie? Very likely. Was it a choice at that moment? Sure was. (Side note: this takes us to tribalism and other sociology branches on why a kid does that, all interesting on their own).
What I was addressing is that there’s nothing necessarily wrong about making generalized claims, as long as those claims are largely plausible. A claim of “Most Muslims are terrorists” is clearly false, and we don’t have to go ask every Muslim about it.
Expanding on my previous claim, I don’t know I would feel comfortable stating that “Every Christian believes in Jesus”. That’s much more debatable and at least a degree less plausible that using ‘Most’. I would actually be skeptic of the ‘Every’ claim, unless we obviously survey every Christian and we get our answer.
A neuroscientist explains why Christian evangelicals are wired to believe Donald Trump’s gaslighting lies
many psychologists have pointed out that he is constantly gaslighting his base—a term that refers to a strategic attempt to get others to question their direct experience of reality.
fact of the matter is there are many who swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
Most of his fervent supporters are convinced that Trump is the harbinger of truth when it comes to important issues like climate change—
which is really just a “hoax perpetrated by the Chinese government”.
a basic fact about the brain:
it takes more mental effort to reject an idea as false than to accept it as true.
In other words, it’s easier to believe than to not.
does it explain why conservatives, specifically evangelicals, are so easily duped by Donald Trump?
For Christian fundamentalists,
being taught to suppress critical thinking begins at a very early age.
It is the combination of the brain’s vulnerability to believing unsupported facts and aggressive indoctrination that create the perfect storm for gullibility.
Due to the brain’s neuroplasticity, or ability to be sculpted by lived experiences,
evangelicals literally become hardwired to believe far-fetched statements.
first taught to accept Biblical stories not as metaphors for living life practically and purposefully,
but as objective truth.
Mystical explanations for natural events train young minds to not demand evidence for beliefs.
As a result, the neural pathways that promote healthy skepticism and rational thought are not properly developed.
This inevitably leads to a greater susceptibility to lying and gaslighting by manipulative politicians,
and greater suggestibility in general.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/a-neuroscientist-explains-why-christian-evangelicals-are-wired-to-believe-donald-trumps-gaslighting-lies/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3334
understanding science is much harder than just saying " it, it's bull "
The oligarchy loves evangelicals because they are stupidly suggestible, gullible about eg, climate science, environmental pollution and destruction, all of which allows the oligarchy to amass Capital by exploiting the carbon economy and overriding environmental regulations.
iow
ignorant, gullible evangelicals are a huge reason why
America is ed and un able.
Yeah...not that it's not known, but you're a run-of-the-mill bigot. A PERFECT Democrat. Words and actions are two separate ethea to you and, being the flea-bitten dog you are, are all bark and no bite. You're basically the methed version of that Jew-hating got...
...Hitler.
Making the assertion that you are Christian is one thing. Believing the God exists is quite another. Same is true for atheism. There are those who profess atheism but hedge their bets by calling themselves agnostic atheists, in hopes of appearing more honest and open minded.
So you either believe a god exists or you do not. If you can believe because you choose to, you are basically delusional. I knew a woman who was delusional, convinced herself that she didn't have terminal cancer. She didn't continue treatment and was shocked when someone told her the reason she was 90lbs and had a urine output half a normal person (and 3rd spacing fluids) was because she was dying of cancer. That's what "choosing to believe" is. It's not a normal belief mechanism.
Would you feel comfortable saying most Christians don't believe in Jesus?
Because you say so. You're now the arbiter of truth, no explanation needed.
There's over a billion. I know a few dozen. I can make gross stereotypes and condemnations upon the entire sect because a few have irritated me and/or I found a few fringe articles to shame them from. I PROMISE I'm not a bigot.
evangelicals, white iden y voters, love Trash's racism and brutal, inhumane immigration crimes,
because Christ would love Trash and love Trash's hate of non-whites, too
One surprisingly simple reason evangelicals love Trump
It’s his immigration policy.
asked about 60,000 participants a host of questions on a range of issues.
On immigration, respondents were asked five different questions:
whether they supported withholding federal funds from sanctuary states and cities;
increasing border funding by $25 billion;
detaining those who cross the border without authorization multiple times;
ending a visa lottery program and family-based immigration, both of which have been the subject of President Donald Trump’s ire; and
rolling back the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which has offered deportation protection and work permits to over 700,000 young unauthorized immigrants since 2012.
Burge’s analysis, published Thursday, finds that on issues ranging from border security to immigration detention,
white evangelicals —
a group that includes dozens of individual denominations, from the Southern Baptist Convention to the Pentecostal movement —
are substantially more conservative than the average American and even the next most conservative religious group.
He calculated the share of white evangelicals who supported the policies, the share of the next most conservative religious group who supported the policies, and the share of all respondents who supported the policies.
Evangelicals were consistently the most conservative by a wide margin.
On four of the five policies, evangelicals were at least 20 percent more conservative compared to the average American.
evangelical support for Trump continues to remain high largely because they like the policy outcomes of the Trump era — particularly on immigration.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/27/21038031/white-evangelicals-trump-immigration-election-2020
No doubt, evangelicals a White Christian Nationalists who discriminate against all non-whites.
Wonderful, Christ-loving people, these evangelicals, their fictional Christ was north west European white, not black, not yellow, no brown
Last edited by boutons_deux; 12-30-2019 at 08:11 AM.
Welcome to 8th grade biology.
The concept of nature vs nurture in the topic we are discussing is about prenatal conditions and genetics vs experiences and upbringing. You're inserting some nebulous bull into it to try to salvage a win here then trying to slam the door with your silly little exit line, but you're simply wrong. You know damn well that "biology' in the comments I posted don't refer to purely genetics but also epigenetics. Your attempt at infinite regression by calling environment of the gene "environmental" misses the mark. It's indeed a biological effect.
From another website:
The Biological Perspective in Psychology
This field of psychology is often referred to as biopsychology or physiological psychology. This branch of psychology has grown tremendously in recent years and is linked to other areas of science including biology, neurology, and genetics.
The study of physiology and biological processes has played a significant role in psychology since its earliest beginnings. It was Charles Darwin who first introduced the idea that evolution and genetics play a role in human behavior. Natural selection influences whether certain behavior patterns are passed down to future generations. Behaviors that aid in survival are more likely to be passed down while those that prove dangerous are less likely to be inherited.
The biological perspective is essentially a way of looking at human problems and actions. Consider an issue like aggression, for example. Someone using the psychoanalytic perspective might view aggression as the result of childhood experiences and unconscious urges. Another person might take a behavioral perspective and consider how the behavior was shaped by association, reinforcement, and punishment. A psychologist with a social perspective might look at the group dynamics and pressures that contribute to such behavior.
The biological viewpoint, on the other hand, would involve looking at the biological roots that lie behind aggressive behaviors. Someone who takes the biological perspective might consider how certain types of brain injury might lead to aggressive actions. Or they might consider genetic factors that can contribute to such displays of behavior.
Here you can clearly see things other than DNA code can be considered "biological factors".
Why you're focused on this is a mystery. You seem to be interested in distracting instead of dissecting.
off, moronevangelicals, white iden y voters, love Trash's racism and brutal, inhumane immigration crimes, because Christ would love Trash, too
One surprisingly simple reason evangelicals love Trump
It’s his immigration policy.
asked about 60,000 participants a host of questions on a range of issues.
On immigration, respondents were asked five different questions:
whether they supported withholding federal funds from sanctuary states and cities;
increasing border funding by $25 billion;
detaining those who cross the border without authorization multiple times;
ending a visa lottery program and family-based immigration, both of which have been the subject of President Donald Trump’s ire; and
rolling back the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which has offered deportation protection and work permits to over 700,000 young unauthorized immigrants since 2012.
Burge’s analysis, published Thursday, finds that on issues ranging from border security to immigration detention,
white evangelicals —
a group that includes dozens of individual denominations, from the Southern Baptist Convention to the Pentecostal movement —
are substantially more conservative than the average American and even the next most conservative religious group.
He calculated the share of white evangelicals who supported the policies, the share of the next most conservative religious group who supported the policies, and the share of all respondents who supported the policies.
Evangelicals were consistently the most conservative by a wide margin.
On four of the five policies, evangelicals were at least 20 percent more conservative compared to the average American.
evangelical support for Trump continues to remain high largely because they like the policy outcomes of the Trump era — particularly on immigration.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/27/21038031/white-evangelicals-trump-immigration-election-2020
No doubt, evangelicals a White Christian Nationalists who discriminate against all non-whites.
Wonderful, Christ-loving people, these evangelicals, their fictional Christ was north west European white, not black, not yellow, no brown
evangelicals, white iden y voters, love Trash's racism and brutal, inhumane immigration crimes, because Christ would love Trash, too
One surprisingly simple reason evangelicals love Trump
It’s his immigration policy.
asked about 60,000 participants a host of questions on a range of issues.
On immigration, respondents were asked five different questions:
whether they supported withholding federal funds from sanctuary states and cities;
increasing border funding by $25 billion;
detaining those who cross the border without authorization multiple times;
ending a visa lottery program and family-based immigration, both of which have been the subject of President Donald Trump’s ire; and
rolling back the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which has offered deportation protection and work permits to over 700,000 young unauthorized immigrants since 2012.
Burge’s analysis, published Thursday, finds that on issues ranging from border security to immigration detention,
white evangelicals —
a group that includes dozens of individual denominations, from the Southern Baptist Convention to the Pentecostal movement —
are substantially more conservative than the average American and even the next most conservative religious group.
He calculated the share of white evangelicals who supported the policies, the share of the next most conservative religious group who supported the policies, and the share of all respondents who supported the policies.
Evangelicals were consistently the most conservative by a wide margin.
On four of the five policies, evangelicals were at least 20 percent more conservative compared to the average American.
evangelical support for Trump continues to remain high largely because they like the policy outcomes of the Trump era — particularly on immigration.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/12/27/21038031/white-evangelicals-trump-immigration-election-2020
No doubt, evangelicals a White Christian Nationalists who discriminate against all non-whites.
Wonderful, Christ-loving people, these evangelicals, their fictional Christ was north west European white, not black, not yellow, no brown
Evangelicals make up less than a quarter of all US Christians. It's ok to hate, deride and shame an entire sect based on what equates to a fringe minority overall? Or, as is already known, you're a piece of dumb that just hates what he's commanded to hate?
I know you already hate and despise the "knitters" (you ing pussy won't even use the words you want, dont understand what face there's left to save), but based on your train of thought, it's OK to hate an entire group of people based on minorty statistics. 30% of black males are felons. Should I treat ALL black people with such disdain and hatred that you treat all Christians? I have an undisputable figure and an irrefutable history of felonious behaviors from the blacks. What's the difference? Choice? Racist white democrats like you putting the steel toes to the darkies your ancestors worked so hard to keep in binds?
You took me to task for not saying how they were different, so I explained how they were different.
So how are they the same? In your words. or fold. again.
So you respond to "you don't make substantive claims about topics" by not making a substantive claim about the topic.You don't bother making substantive claims about the topics being discussed. That is an easy claim for me to make, and support. You haven't made any nontrivial claims here, and I would be shocked if you did anything other than personal attacks.
The few times you have bothered in the past, you sucked at rational discourse, so I can see why you stick to personal attacks, although you aren't much better at that than you are at attempting to rub two thoughts together.
Feel free to prove me wrong. Go back over this thread and post your BEST, most meaningful commentary on the topic at hand. Wow the classroom, professor.
A less salty koriwhat/derptactular.
If you can lead anybody down the "path of logic", I have yet to see any evidence of it, and at this point, doubt I ever will.
Personally, I think you are lying here about why you don't bother, both to me, and to yourself. Your prerogative I guess.
DMC still lashing out. Same insecure little you've always been.
I don't see a pattern of lumping all Christians together on this forum. I don't see it as a personal attack if someone calls Christians bigots or phobic because I'm not personally either of those things. Unfortunately, though, I know the numbers and I have plenty of lifetime experience in churches where this is the case. Christians have unfortunately been way behind the times when it comes to civil rights in this country and there's no reason for it other than bigotry.
So I'm less concerned by blanket statements by non-Christians than I am by the behavior of Christians I've grown up with, and the leaders of this country who promote Christian tribalism to forward an un-Christian agenda.
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