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My man. My man.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...hat-do-n933771
Please try and blame this one on the superdelegates and DNC. The DNC's handpicked moderates are the only ones who did anything in 2018.
Makes me wonder if AaronY will fall in line and vote for Bernie should Bernie get the nominee. Or will his hatred of Bernie get the best of him that he won't care that not voting means a vote for Trump
My man. My man.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...hat-do-n933771
Please try and blame this one on the superdelegates and DNC. The DNC's handpicked moderates are the only ones who did anything in 2018.
You literally are aware of the 2018 midterms, correct?
Keep changing the topic!You literally are aware of the 2018 midterms, correct?
how does that article say moderate dems did in senate races?
you're cherry picking midterms which have lower turnout that the general election and aren't as great predictors for that reason. we also dont know all the numbers. how many total progressive candidates were there in contested house races vs moderate ones? sure, moderates flipped a lot more in the house, but we'd want to see the batting average, too.
plus like i said a lot of the positive texas results have been at least in part credited to beto mobilizing the base in texas
Endangered Democrats sound the alarm on Bernie and Warren
A slate of endangered House Democrats is coalescing behind Joe Biden for president as the Iowa caucuses approach — a surge of support triggered by fears that Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren at the top of the ticket would cost them their seats.
More than a dozen swing-seat freshmen have taken part in at least one private call session with Biden, Amy Klobuchar or Pete Buttigieg in recent weeks. A handful have already gravitated toward the former vice president, and more are expected to follow before Democrats start voting on Feb. 3, according to interviews with 15 lawmakers, aides and campaign strategists.
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Others are still hearing out Klobuchar — who held her own call with a dozen members on Monday night — and Buttigieg. Both candidates are pitching themselves as middle-of-the-road Democrats who can stem the leftward surge of the party.
“I’m looking at all the moderates in the race,” said Rep. Anthony Brindisi (D-N.Y.), who holds a GOP-leaning district in upstate New York. “If we’re going to campaign on issues like Medicare for All and free college for everybody, we’re not going to have a winning message in 2020.”
House Democrats in battleground districts are anxious for a moderate to lead the ballot in 2020, warning that a self-described socialist like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) or liberal icon like Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) could hurt their own chances in the fall — and help reelect President Donald Trump. Most won over independents and moderate Republicans to flip long-held GOP districts in 2018."The wrong person at the top of the ticket — and I’m not saying who that is — there would be down-ballot carnage all across the country."Some say a more liberal nominee threatens to shatter their electoral coalitions, and they have the data in their districts to prove it. A number of Democratic centrists — some of whom hold seats Trump carried by sizable margins — have studied internal polling showing Biden outperforming other Democratic contenders in head-to-heads with Trump in their respective districts.
- Rep. Cedric Richmond
"The wrong person at the top of the ticket — and I’m not saying who that is — there would be down-ballot carnage all across the country, and I think that people are starting to recognize it,” said Rep. Cedric Richmond (D-La.), a national co-chair of the Biden campaign.
Unlike in 2016, when most Democrats rallied around Hillary Clinton,most have so far stayed on the sidelines of the party's primary fight, anxious of drawing battle lines that could further divide their district or attract a primary challenge from the left.
But an increasing number of centrists are quietly engaging with campaigns, particularly Biden, through conference calls and staff-to-staff contact, in the run-up to Iowa’s caucuses.
Rep. Conor Lamb. | Drew Angerer/Getty Images
Biden is leading the congressional endorsement race among the presidential hopefuls. He has 33 in total, including five Democrats in Trump-won House or Senateseats, the most of any presidential contender. Democratic Reps. Elaine Luria of Virginia, Abby Finkenauer of Iowa and Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania — all of whom hold seats Trump carried in 2016— backed Biden this month.
Story Continued BeloOn a November call with Biden, some freshman members cited internal polling that showed the former vice president as the most formidable candidanumber of battleground Democrats commissioned a round of polling in the late summer and fall that tested Biden and other candidates against Trump. Biden performed more favorably, according to sources familiar with the surveys, though they cautioned that some tests had very small sample sizes and that Biden’s dominance is not unexpected given his high name ID.
“I am definitely concerned that someone’s who more on the fringes would have a hard time winning our state themselves, and I want a Democratic candidate to win Pennsylvania and win the presidency,” said Lamb, who endorsed Biden last week and is going to campaign with him this month in New Hampshire.
Asked if Warren or Sanders — the top two candidates in a new Iowa poll released Friday — could win his district, Lamb said: “I think it would be really hard.”
Democrats are also looking seriously at Klobuchar, who pitched her own ability to carry districts where Trump won in 2016 in her Monday night conference call.
Stacey Abrams also wins the Georgia governor race if her opponent isn’t able to abuse his power and suppress votes.
The whole midterm argument assumes the premise that you win presidential elections by flipping the middle when evidence doesn’t support that. Bill Clinton was the last candidate to win a presidential election by focusing on trying to win the middle, every candidate from either party who has tried it since then has failed (Gore, Kerry, Romney, H. Clinton).
mccain to a degree. MAVERICK
GOP was doomed following bush's 2nd term, and thats why mccain made sense strategically as trying to distance themselves. palin tho...
I don’t view McCain’s maverick thing as an example of centrist strategy failing, him losing that election wasn’t a question of campaign strategy
There's all kinds of stats in the article.
Besides, what is the evidence for progressivism being good electorally tho honestly?
Hillary lost so the guy she beat by 4 million votes must have been able to win?
Biden has been leading from wire to wire so Warren and Bernie must be better?
You're both (half) right. The Dems have two losing strategies to pick from.
Hillary lol. I literally never mention Hillary, made fun of the Russia investigation right after 2016 and never made any excuses or complained about the electoral college.
Nope. TOTAL PUTZ
This argument it’s still going then?
At least there’s that. Plenty of room to disagree about which candidate is the right one wherein the other party just shuts up and plays their parts like the puppets they are.
Before this all started I liked Beto but he unraveled very quickly. Had he kept his 2018 campaigning style I think he would still be in it today. Then I kind of warmed up to Warren but all the flip flops, lies and backtrack has taken the winds from her sails.
At this point to me Biden has had the most durability (has lasted longer than I thought) and has actually improved from debates to debates from what I have seen.
Unless anything dramatically changes, he might be the dude we have to put our votes in. Bernie has never been an option for me. His unwillingness to move on some of his unachievable policies is a turn off for me. You have to at least find a compromise somehow, somewhere.
BTW, I don’t really care for Biden’s push to “work with the republicans” either. He’s been naive there but it’s nice to know the willingness is there. But for gods sake stop talking about them like you’re in love with them and how’d you pick one as your VP. Cringe all around.
To finish up, just want to make clear I’d vote for Bernie as worst case. Trump needs to go. PERIOD.
AOC trying to drive moderates out of the party is suicide. This is a woman who won in the Bronx with 12% turnout and lost badly in the African American and Latino demos in the primaries as her support was all white hipsters. She should not pretend to be an expert in rural areas or red states. Its madness anyone is even listening to her.
She really didnt have black and latino support?
I would love AOC to lead the democratic party.
No lol all white gentrified hipsters
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...crats-leftwardOcasio-Cortez’s best precincts were places like the neighborhood where Bonthius and his friends live: highly educated, whiter and richer than the district as a whole. In those neighborhoods, Ocasio-Cortez clobbered Crowley by 70 percent or more. Crowley’s best precincts, meanwhile, were the working-class African-American enclave of LeFrak City, where he got more than 60 percent of the vote, and portions of heavily Hispanic Corona. He pulled some of his best numbers in Ocasio-Cortez’s heavily Latino and African-American neighborhood of Parkchester, in the Bronx — beating her by more than 25 points on her home turf.
lmao thats phenomenal. Now she is lecturing people on how to turn West Virginia socialist.
She’s only as relevant as she is now because the Republicans can’t keep her out of their mouths. I can’t name of one thing she’s done for us yet. And I mean that since I’m from the borough she represents. Lol
Yes.
Did I stutter?
Let's hear you say it, then.So then Hillary for not bothering to campaign in Wisconsin and allowing Trump to win it with even less votes than romney got in Wisconsin in 2012, right?
Guess not
Nah, he's stuttering. Watch him dodge saying itGuess not
Dodge what? He just gave an unequivocal yes, isn’t really dodging anything...Nah, he's stuttering. Watch him dodge saying it
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