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    You know you just want free that other people pay for.
    The rich don't pay their fair share of taxes. The poor don't pay taxes. It's the middle or working class that gets screwed. Personally, I think it should be the rich footing the bill. Let them pay for their Zionist wars.

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    Climate change warrior!

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    The rich don't pay their fair share of taxes. The poor don't pay taxes. It's the middle or working class that gets screwed. Personally, I think it should be the rich footing the bill. Let them pay for their Zionist wars.
    It's the middle and working class that will get hit hardest with tax increases because that's where the money is. Taxing the "rich" wont pay for all the free .

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    It's the middle and working class that will get hit hardest with tax increases because that's where the money is. Taxing the "rich" wont pay for all the free .
    This free meme is really tiring coming from the right. Bernie has been pretty clear peoples' taxes are going up to pay for Medicare For All if he can get it implemented. What could be a better example of "free " than the Reagan, Bush, and Trump tax cuts that kept blowing up the deficit and that younger taxpayers like SR21 are going to eventually be paying for?

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    This free meme is really tiring coming from the right. Bernie has been pretty clear peoples' taxes are going up to pay for Medicare For All if he can get it implemented. What could be a better example of "free " than the Reagan, Bush, and Trump tax cuts that kept blowing up the deficit and that younger taxpayers like SR21 are going to eventually be paying for?
    Tax cuts isn't a gift. It's taking less. So a lot of things could be a better example.

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    USA will never have Medicare for All, no matter how many voters vote for politicians who promise to implement MfA

    You People completely underestimate the $Bs that will be spent by BigInsurance/BigMedicine to block MfA.

    They are too powerful, too wealthy, and own now and forever enough politicians to block it.

    Americans are forever doomed to have their wealth/salaries sucked for $Ts for medical insurance and medical care, whose premiums and copays/co-insurance will rise faster than inflation

    American are completely defenseless in face of the onslaught of the predatory, wealth-extractive, wealth-hoarding, all-powerful oligarchy.

    The oligarchy lasses its ass off as Medicare for All other such For The People fantasies.


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    It's the middle and working class that will get hit hardest with tax increases because that's where the money is. Taxing the "rich" wont pay for all the free .
    Right, because the rich don't have any money.

    K boomer

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    Bernie has some extremist staffers on the payroll.
    Guy obviously has had a hard life growing up on the streets. His anger towards the system is understandable.

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    Tax cuts isn't a gift. It's taking less. So a lot of things could be a better example.
    No, it really is a gift, considering there's no reduction of deficit to match it.

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    No, it really is a gift, considering there's no reduction of deficit to match it.
    They're not allowed to care about that when magic R is president.

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    Right, because the rich don't have any money.

    K boomer
    The middle class pays more dollars to tax revenue that the top 1%. They pay approximately 60% of total revenue. and yeah, Chump, thats where the money is.


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    The middle class pays more dollars to tax revenue that the top 1%. They pay approximately 60% of total revenue. and yeah, Chump, thats where the money is.

    Does that graph include Medicare and SS taxes, ie the two taxes the rich are basically exempt from paying?

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    Does that graph include Medicare and SS taxes, ie the two taxes the rich are basically exempt from paying?
    The chart says INCOME TAX but you are just making my point even better. The middle class pays more SS and medicare tax (which just goes directly into general revenue) than billionaires.

    And BTW, the top 1% isn't just the billionaires. Its anyone making over $421,000. You could take 100% of billionaires income and it wouldn't pay for all the free .

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    The chart says INCOME TAX but you are just making my point even better. The middle class pays more SS and medicare tax (which just goes directly into general revenue) than billionaires.

    And BTW, the top 1% isn't just the billionaires. Its anyone making over $421,000. You could take 100% of billionaires income and it wouldn't pay for all the free .
    I’m sure that was the answer to someone’s question. Wasn’t the answer to my question though.

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    I’m also not sure what your labeling as the “middle class”, but that graph says that the bottom 75% of this country pays 14% of the country’s income tax (and the bottom 90% only pay 30.5% ), which totally defeats your point.

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    The rich don't pay their fair share of taxes. The poor don't pay taxes. It's the middle or working class that gets screwed. Personally, I think it should be the rich footing the bill. Let them pay for their Zionist wars.
    Thats incorrect.

    The working poor do pay taxes.

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    I’m also not sure what your labeling as the “middle class”, but that graph says that the bottom 75% of this country pays 14% of the country’s income tax (and the bottom 90% only pay 30.5% ), which totally defeats your point.
    the top 75% - 99% are still middle class. Why exclude them?
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    I don’t know what middle class means in this context of taxes if 50% of all tax payers pay 97% .

    This would seem to indicate we need to re label divisions as poor, upper class, ultra wealthy or something different.
    If the bottom 50% of income tax payers pay only 3%... We got a tiny middle.

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    I’m thinking other criteria should be used to define middle class.

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    The middle class pays more dollars to tax revenue that the top 1%. They pay approximately 60% of total revenue. and yeah, Chump, thats where the money is.

    So who paid for your free ?

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    the top 75% - 99% are still middle class. Why exclude them?
    Who exactly classifies the 90% through the 99% as middle class?

    Id exclude them because I don’t consider an investment banker who makes several hundred thousand dollars a year as middle class
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    Also, is the money counted as AGI really the only money the people on the top make in a year?

    Just seems to easy to s -game this whole thing, and the elephant in the room is that the nation as a whole hasn't been paying enough for all the free we've been getting.

    Seems like half the board used to care about deficits and the debt until we got a white guy back in power.

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    Guy obviously has had a hard life growing up on the streets. His anger towards the system is understandable.
    i don't buy it. all these marxists losers are ing pussies and anyone that's not blind can see that.

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