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    Because you’re operating under a strange assumption that emulating Trump will appeal to black voters not named Candace Owens, and all at the expense of his own base who like him because they think he’s genuine and principled
    Facts. Bernie shouldn't change his entire method of appealing to voters when what he's doing is working.

    Lefty Democrats are not the same demographic as right wing Republicans.

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    I don't see that working tbh. They basically gave Biden a pass for the crime bill as a good faith effort in the face of a crisis and busing didn't work anyway so what difference could that really make? That plus eight years with Obama plus Sanders' awkward-at-best relations with minorities make this strategy a waste of time. Might as well try whatever the GOP will try against Biden to turn off whitey.
    You might very well be right but I don’t see Biden losing without someone chipping into his black voter lead, and all the other candidates who could have served as hitmen for Bernie on that front (Kamala & Booker) are out, so it’s getting close to Hail Mary time imo.

    I also think that no matter how low the chances of being able to take away his support from black voters are, they’re higher than the chances of getting middle aged and older white Democrats to support someone else.

    Setting all of that aside, the kiss of death for Bernie is going to be the wedge between him and Warren...the only shot either one had is if the other bowed out early and threw all of their support towards the one still in the race.

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    Why not? The only way he’s going to make a dent in the black support Biden has is with mudslinging. Even though it’s a gross exaggeration, he should start calling Biden “Jim Crow Joe” as an attack for Biden being against bussing, and he should spam campaign ads showing Biden being buddies with Trent Lott. Might be dirty and dishonest but it works.
    He doesn't need to do that. He can have someone else do it so he remains "clean".

    "Joe Biden was for segregation before he was against it!" -paid shill group

    "Senator, what do you think of these accusations against Biden that he supported segregation?" -MSM

    "I'll leave that to you guys, I just want to talk about what the country needs now" -Sanders

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    Because you’re operating under a strange assumption that emulating Trump will appeal to black voters not named Candace Owens, and all at the expense of his own base who like him because they think he’s genuine and principled
    It’s not so much emulating Trump as it is doing what usually works with low information voters which is beating them over the head with the same smear campaign over and over again until it starts to resonate. Shaniqua Jackson the high school dropout isn’t going to flip from Biden to Bernie unless Bernie does a better job making it simple for her.

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    He doesn't need to do that. He can have someone else do it so he remains "clean".

    "Joe Biden was for segregation before he was against it!" -paid shill group

    "Senator, what do you think of these accusations against Biden that he supported segregation?" -MSM

    "I'll leave that to you guys, I just want to talk about what the country needs now" -Sanders
    Yeah that’d be fine too but I think Bernie is too much of a pussy to orchestrate something like that behind the scenes.

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    Yeah that’d be fine too but I think Bernie is too much of a pussy to orchestrate something like that behind the scenes.
    One would think broPACs would be doing that independently already.

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    You might very well be right but I don’t see Biden losing without someone chipping into his black voter lead, and all the other candidates who could have served as hitmen for Bernie on that front (Kamala & Booker) are out, so it’s getting close to Hail Mary time imo.

    I also think that no matter how low the chances of being able to take away his support from black voters are, they’re higher than the chances of getting middle aged and older white Democrats to support someone else.

    Setting all of that aside, the kiss of death for Bernie is going to be the wedge between him and Warren...the only shot either one had is if the other bowed out early and threw all of their support towards the one still in the race.
    Bernie's big weaknesses are 1) he isn't a Democrat and 2) he keeps using the S word so any opponent can call him that and be correct.

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    It’s not so much emulating Trump as it is doing what usually works with low information voters which is beating them over the head with the same smear campaign over and over again until it starts to resonate. Shaniqua Jackson the high school dropout isn’t going to flip from Biden to Bernie unless Bernie does a better job making it simple for her.
    I'm with you 100%. Bernie needs to have a back bone amd get dirty with the DNC. He needs make it clear to the Democrats that you're either "with me or against me."

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    the DNC and their BigFinance buddies will block both Bernie and Liz, Bernie is not a Dem, and BigFinace hates Liz for costing them $10B+ with CFPB, now gutted by the Repug s.

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    Bernie's big weaknesses are 1) he isn't a Democrat and 2) he keeps using the S word so any opponent can call him that and be correct.
    So is also a weakness of Bloomberg’s that he’s not a Democrat either?

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    So is also a weakness of Bloomberg’s that he’s not a Democrat either?
    Yes.

    His campaign approach can be described as detached and cynical as well.

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    DNC changes rules to accommodate Mini Mike

    Looks they are getting plan B in place for Biden's inevitable collapse

    Bernie gonna get screwed again

    Rigged!

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    Yes.

    His campaign approach can be described as detached and cynical as well.
    he's running against Trash, to bait him, to piss him off, to insult him, he's not running to be President.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-01-2020 at 03:16 PM.

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    ^This is what I said about Trump in 2015 tbh.

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    he's running against Trash, to bait him, to piss him off, in insult him, he's not running to be President.
    bouts

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    recent polling has the gap tightening....




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    Yeah that’d be fine too but I think Bernie is too much of a pussy to orchestrate something like that behind the scenes.
    He might not, but his folks should if they even want a puncher's chance.

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    The Dems are throwing everything they can at Bernie. He was campaigning, that's what they do.

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    do people know how private flights work? $1.2 million for private flights is nothing.

    Bernie for not bike riding across the country to campaign!

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    The Dems are throwing everything they can at Bernie. He was campaigning, that's what they do.
    Bernie is their last chance considering Biden is only running to avoid being investigated for Ukraine Burisma.

    Still waiting on the big announcement from Hillary about joining the race.

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    Bernie is their last chance considering Biden is only running to avoid being investigated for Ukraine Burisma.

    Still waiting on the big announcement from Hillary about joining the race.
    how does that work? recent history has shown that presidential candidates aren't immune from investigation

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    Bernie is their last chance considering Biden is only running to avoid being investigated for Ukraine Burisma.

    Still waiting on the big announcement from Hillary about joining the race.
    Biden and Bloomberg are running for the same reason, giant egos that have made them convinced they’re the “best shot” at beating Trump.

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