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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    I'll be too old to give a and party alignment is fluid so who knows.

    What's your party's plan now?

    "Hitler!" and "Racist!" doesn't seem to be working.
    Their plan is to Bernie over, hopefully it fails.

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    "Trump is a terrible president and human being" works well enough. The fact it could even be a compe ive race is astounding.
    It didn't work in 2016 so I have no faith in a Clinton campaign being a winner this time around either thanks to the electoral college.

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    It didn't work in 2016 so I have no faith in a Clinton campaign being a winner this time around either thanks to the electoral college.
    Great. Four more years, then.

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    "Trump is a terrible president and human being" works well enough. The fact it could even be a compe ive race is astounding.
    I hate the other guy didn't work for Kerry, McCain, Romney etc. but maybe this time amirite?

    As much as I disagree with him, Bernie is the only guy with an actual message and he's going to get ed .

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    Their plan is to Bernie over, hopefully it fails.
    after the wasserman-schultz/donna brazile disaster they ended up planting tom perez as chair. didnt do much to help the narrative.

    and then this iowa disaster has been bungled about as poorly as possible both from the Iowa Dems and now the DNC

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    I hate the other guy didn't work for Kerry, McCain, Romney etc. but maybe this time amirite?
    It worked for Trump.

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    after the wasserman-schultz/donna brazile disaster they ended up planting tom perez as chair. didnt do much to help the narrative.

    and then this iowa disaster has been bungled about as poorly as possible both from the Iowa Dems and now the DNC
    Just disgusting seeing these ers pay lip service to FDR while doing everything they can to stop the guy running as another FDR. Clinton getting elected in 1992 might be the worst thing to ever happen to the DNC.

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    It worked for Trump.
    No in bent

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    In bents have been historically more popular than the idiot you love. Don't worry though. Democrats are ing this up every way they possibly can.

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    Your party was forced by fringe lunatics to nominate Donald Trump and is sticking by him because you're scared to lose the white supremacist and conspiracy nutjob vote. I'd rather lose every election than sink to that level.
    you're well on your way to proving that too.

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    neither was Mccain or Obama in 08

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    Democrats are ing this up every way they possibly can.
    My original point before your emotions

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    If he finishes behind buttplug and Sanders in NH I think that alone puts him in desperation mode, and if he then loses Nevada he’s pretty ed imo. Black voters alone aren’t enough to carry him if every other voter base has turned against him.
    Old voters still exist, tbh. But if they go Bloomberg then yeah Biden is done.

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    My original point before your emotions
    Trump supporter trying to talk about emotions.

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    a two day blip for Bernie being considered “trending down”

    In the last 2 days fivethirtyeight has changed the odds of Bernie winning the primary from 3 out of 10 to 48%.

    These are more than likely the same polls that had Hillary safely ahead on 2016 election night. Trump can say whatever he wants Sanders is the last person he wants to face.

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    These are more than likely the same polls that had Hillary safely ahead on 2016 election night. Trump can say whatever he wants Sanders is the last person he wants to face.
    But, why, flo? Seriously.

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    If he finishes behind buttplug and Sanders in NH I think that alone puts him in desperation mode, and if he then loses Nevada he’s pretty ed imo. Black voters alone aren’t enough to carry him if every other voter base has turned against him.
    Yep, Will, that's my take as well. It's Nevada.

    ADDENDUM:::It was one thing to talk about losing Iowa & Hampshire, but, to see it actually take place in broad daylight is a completely different proposition.

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    But, why, flo? Seriously.
    Millennials, thread. If the Democrats has a candidate who turned millennials out at the same rate boomers turned out for elections its GG for Republicans and Sanders is the only Democrat with the potential to do that other than maybe Warren.

    Tucker Carlson said it best, you’ve got an entire generation of Americans buried in student loan debt who, whether right or wrong, feel like they were dealt a hand by prior generations, and Sanders is the only candidate in either party offering to help them. Its a powerful message and advantage to have no matter how you slice it.
    Last edited by Will Hunting; 02-06-2020 at 05:18 PM.

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    Yep, Will, that's my take as well. It's Nevada.

    ADDENDUM:::It was one thing to talk about losing Iowa & Hampshire, but, to see it actually take place in broad daylight is a completely different proposition.
    It was one thing to talk about coming in 2nd behind only Sanders in Iowa, it was another thing for Sanders Buttplug and Warren to cast him down with the 2nd tier candidates like Klobuchar.

    There’s also just other things working against Biden. Bloomberg is taking some of his supporters. The Sanders fundraising machine is printing money (he raised $25 million just in January alone) and none of the non-billionaire candidates can keep up with it. This is also just my theory but I think the establishment is starting to favor buttplug over Biden.

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    If Biden all of the sudden "comes back to life" I will be convinced that the whole thing is fixed.
    That's a stretch.

    Plenty of candidates who lost in Iowa went on to win the presidency or done well after. The first 2 states aren't really Biden's cup of tea. He's banking on Super Tuesday. If he does badly then he needs to drop out. Who do you like in this race anyways?

    I have more questions about Pete calling his shots with 0% in.

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    oh poor communist piece of 2 face bernie... boo hoo

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    But, why, flo? Seriously.

    I just think that Bernie has sort of the same cult following as Trump. The only difference is Trump supporters would likely cross over to any other candidate just to keep any Dem out of the office, whereas Bernie supporters just won't vote, or would probably cross over to Trump if Bernie isn't nominated.

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    That's a stretch.

    Plenty of candidates who lost in Iowa went on to win the presidency or done well after. The first 2 states aren't really Biden's cup of tea. He's banking on Super Tuesday. If he does badly then he needs to drop out. Who do you like in this race anyways?

    I have more questions about Pete calling his shots with 0% in.

    Whoever has the best shot of beating Trump. I just don't think Biden would be able to beat him in the General. I'm currently leaning Bernie because I honestly think he would be the best candidate to be able to stand up to Trump during the debates. For some reason I think Trump would show up Biden how he did with Hillary. I just don't want a candidate with any kind of extra baggage for Trump and is ilk to be able to use.

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