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    nevermind thats not a good call

    it already happened


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    The Times’ Attempt to Create a Bernie–Russia Scandal Is an Embarrassment


    Crazy! Bernie Sanders, as mayor of Burlington, Vermont, tried to betray the United States! Wow! Really?


    "Nothing in the do ents suggests that Mr. Sanders was the only local American official targeted for propaganda,

    or even that he was particularly receptive to it,"

    And what year was this taking place?

    At the time of Mr. Sanders’s announcement in 1987 that Burlington would seek a Soviet sister city,

    several dozen other American cities already had such a relationship or had applied for one.


    1987! Well into the period of U.S.–U.S.S.R détente initiated by … ah … let’s see here … Republican president Ronald Reagan?

    And what was Sanders’ “antiwar agenda,” anyway?

    Mr. Sanders reached out to the Soviet Union via an organization based in Virginia,

    requesting a sister-city partnership with the Cold War adversary in

    an effort to end the threat of nuclear annihilation.

    Bernie Sanders was against nuclear annihilation? Quite a scandal we have on our hands

    there’s nothing in the piece suggesting Sanders was treated any differently than anyone else in the U.S. who participated—

    to spread the idea that Gorbachev also wanted to reduce the threat of nuclear war.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/new-york-times-finds-scandal-in-bernie-sanders-cooperation-with-ronald-reagans-soviet-peace-plan.html

    NYTimes headline is really the slanderous hit job, with NO evidence in the article.

    From the Slate article:

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    Donald Trump, was privately pursuing a real-estate project in Moscow during the 2016 campaign cycle while publicly speaking in flattering terms about Russian president Vladimir Putin.

    His top advisers attended a meeting that was pitched to them as an expression of the Russian government’s support for the campaign, and

    he benefited from the Russian hack and release of Democratic emails

    while advocating for Russia-friendly policy positions on NATO and Ukraine.

    His campaign manager shared internal data with a Soviet-born business partner

    who was later described by the Department of Justice as having active ties to Russian intelligence, and

    his national security adviser resigned after lying to the FBI about efforts to deescalate tensions with Russia over sanctions during the presidential transition.

    Eventually Trump was impeached in part for pressuring Ukraine’s new president to announce an investigation into whether Ukraine had framed Russia for the hack of the Democratic emails.
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    And Trash called 17 US agencies LIARS by disbelieving them about Pootin's interference and by believing Pootin's denial.

    But NYTimes slanders Bernie as a traitorous Russian agent?



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    A fifth column for a regime that ceased to exist three years later.

    I guess Kermit the Frog and the CTW were also a fifth column for visiting that kid's show in Moscow.

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    Doing some Bernie math over there at MSNBC


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    But NYTimes slanders Bernie as a traitorous Russian agent?

    They're not saying he's a traitor but many believe he clearly admires certain aspects of the Soviet Union.

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    Wonder how long the NYT had this information and just waited till the best time to drop this "bomb" on Bernie.

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    NYT article be like


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    Doing some Bernie math over there at MSNBC

    So many incompetent people looked at this before it made it on air. Let's wait for them to explain political issues for us.

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    Trumps is right

    she couldnt even win her home state

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    Oh that's hilarious. After three years I still can't tell if he really believes it or is just trolling lol.

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    Oh that's hilarious. After three years I still can't tell if he really believes it or is just trolling lol.
    he's the ultimate troll... how are yall still trying to come to this conclusion tbh?

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    The same bull weapons they use against the right are being used against their own. This is great because this is a nice wake-up call and will encourage people to leave the left.

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    The same bull weapons they use against the right are being used against their own. This is great because this is a nice wake-up call and will encourage people to leave the left.
    "and she turned out to be a fantastic campaigner"

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    They're not saying he's a traitor but many believe he clearly admires certain aspects of the Soviet Union.
    clearly is an understatement just like calling him a socialist and not what he truly is which is a communist s bag. the dude honeymooned in the SU and praises castro; come on now?!

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    mini mike was just trying to give mayor pete a run for his money in the booty judge department.

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    The same bull weapons they use against the right are being used against their own. This is great because this is a nice wake-up call and will encourage people to leave the left.
    Her campaign tanked after she hired several former Hillary staffers after they convinced her to ditch a progressive platform in favor of the gender iden y bull that Hillary tried 4 years ago, so whether or not she’s a better candidate is a moot point. She brought herself down to Hillary’s level the way she campaigned.

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    Her campaign tanked after she hired several former Hillary staffers after they convinced her to ditch a progressive platform in favor of the gender iden y bull that Hillary tried 4 years ago, so whether or not she’s a better candidate is a moot point. She brought herself down to Hillary’s level the way she campaigned.
    one thing i keep reading that makes no sense to me is that she was supposedly more scrutinized than sanders for their medicare for all proposals. i dont understand this at all.

    a lot of that was reporters asking her if taxes would go up, and she would just come back with "cost won't go up" without addressing taxes. and then when they'd press saying "yes, but will taxes go up" she would brush off those questions as republican talking points.

    whereas sanders would respond to those same questions saying yes, taxes will go up, but it will overall reduce cost because of premium/co-pay/out of pocket, etc. she was getting heat for that lack of transparency. when she ultimately released her plan, it consisted entirely of more taxes on the wealthy and more taxes on employers, which many saw as less realistic than sanders' proposal to increase taxes across the board on everybody earning over 29k.

    these were things i was bringing up here back in november/december all while still supporting her over sanders. now there's revisionist history about her getting unfairly attacked about her m4a plan while bernie supposedly skated free

    but even then, in those early months she was clearly above sanders in the polls because progressives saw her as a more electable version of bernie who wouldn't scare establishment types nearly as much. her fall in the polls really coincided with when she announced her plan to get a public option done, and then later come back and try to get m4a. it may actually be a more pragmatic approach/compromise, but the primary race isn't the time to be making those compromises. it was around that time bernie started to surge as the candidate of choice for progressives.
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    Her campaign tanked after she hired several former Hillary staffers after they convinced her to ditch a progressive platform in favor of the gender iden y bull that Hillary tried 4 years ago, so whether or not she’s a better candidate is a moot point. She brought herself down to Hillary’s level the way she campaigned.
    On one hand, it might seem unfortunate that a strong potential president might've had her campaign tanked by some bad advice. On the other, most of what a president does is based off advisors and experts giving them options and recommendations. Warren choosing ty advisors on the trail doesn't instill confidence in how she'd do if she somehow gets to the Oval Office (mainly through being the VP from one of the geezer frontrunners and having them die on her).

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    On one hand, it might seem unfortunate that a strong potential president might've had her campaign tanked by some bad advice.
    a strong candidate for pres?

    please stop, my sides are hurting from laughter.

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    Biden +48 in Florida
    Bernie is almost below the delegate threshold there and its 248 delegates

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    Bernie is almost below the delegate threshold there and its 248 delegates
    Castro was my best friend tho

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    On one hand, it might seem unfortunate that a strong potential president might've had her campaign tanked by some bad advice. On the other, most of what a president does is based off advisors and experts giving them options and recommendations. Warren choosing ty advisors on the trail doesn't instill confidence in how she'd do if she somehow gets to the Oval Office (mainly through being the VP from one of the geezer frontrunners and having them die on her).
    Yeah agreed, definitely not making excuses for Warren. She was well on her way to being the unifying candidate and decided she was going to replicate the campaign strategy of Kristen Gillibrand because advisors from multiple failed campaigns (Kamala/Gillibrand/Hillary) all told her to.

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