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    Trump's dithering and wishful thinking has already gotten people killed.

    Everyone wants to get back to normal, but the devil's in the details and the stakes are very high.
    I can't believe Trump will actually try to overrule governors. He can blame them for anything that goes wrong when their plans are carried out.

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    "American workers deserve better than political games"

    He says after hitting a deep back court lob on "those pesky Democrats"

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    I dare any Trump supporter to say with a straight face this is the absolute best team that could possibly be assembled.


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    I can't believe Trump will actually try to overrule governors. He can blame them for anything that goes wrong when their plans are carried out.
    It is bizarre. He is already trying to position the right-wing media to put all the responsibility for the ups on them.

    Can't have it both ways. what a cluster .

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    I dare any Trump supporter to say with a straight face this is the absolute best team that could possibly be assembled.

    LOL Ivanka.

    Has she ever even opened a glass jar? What are her qualifications?

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    So we have about 21k dead so far.

    If the .0066 chance holds:

    21000/.0066= implies 3,143,000 or so cases.

    Only 500K diagnosed. Seems to be roughly holding at 6-7 times as many implied cases as diagnosed/confirmed.

    Assuming the deaths are underreported as well due to unconfirmed home deaths not counting, we have vastly more.

    I think places with low confirmed cases are going to be primed for flare ups when they get complacent and relax restrictions.

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    It is bizarre. He is already trying to position the right-wing media to put all the responsibility for the ups on them.

    Can't have it both ways. what a cluster .
    The only plausible suggestion I've heard is not that Trump can overrule business closings and shelter in place orders -- he can't -- but that the US Code gives him power to quarantine a whole state.

    If that's true, and if Trump actually did it, he could literally starve the states targeted. In that instance he could make the lifting of the quarantine conditional upon states and municipalities reopening for business and lifting shelter in place orders.

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    I dare any Trump supporter to say with a straight face this is the absolute best team that could possibly be assembled.

    It'd be hilarious if it weren't disgusting

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    I dare any Trump supporter to say with a straight face this is the absolute best team that could possibly be assembled.

    what a joke. Nobody there has anything to do with Labor, the low-wage, low-ed peasants who will be risking their health and lives to enrich Capitalists.

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    It'd be hilarious if it weren't disgusting
    Can you imagine the blowback if Hillary had appointed Chelsea to a reopening council even though one of her advanced degrees is in public health?

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    LOL Ivanka.

    Has she ever even opened a glass jar? What are her qualifications?
    Every time you think the national Trash show can’t get any worse.

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    Can you imagine the blowback if Hillary had appointed Chelsea to a reopening council even though one of her advanced degrees is in public health?
    Nepotism good now

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    The only plausible suggestion I've heard is not that Trump can overrule business closings and shelter in place orders -- he can't -- but that the US Code gives him power to quarantine a whole state.

    If that's true, and if Trump actually did it, he could literally starve the states targeted. In that instance he could make the lifting of the quarantine conditional upon states and municipalities reopening for business and lifting shelter in place orders.
    He can play massive games with aid states get. Hopefully multiple governors would call him out rather than go the placate the lunatic to get hand outs route most have been taking.

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    LOL Ivanka.

    Has she ever even opened a glass jar? What are her qualifications?
    probably that the president wants to her

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    Can you imagine the blowback if Hillary had appointed Chelsea to a reopening council even though one of her advanced degrees is in public health?
    Yeah but Ivanka had that clothing line that one time!

    And I'm sure all those pasty white guys are completely in touch with the boots on the ground

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    This is why Trump’s claim that he has the power to nullify states’ rights is so staggering

    the implicit claim at the heart of Trump’s decision:

    that the president has the cons utional authority and power

    to “reopen” an economy and

    thus to force state governors with differing and competing objectives to comply.

    public-health guidelines from the CDC are not the same thing as “closing” the economy.

    Easing them, or lifting them, is not the same thing as “reopening” the economy.

    our system of government was designed to divide authority (and therefore responsibility) between and among Washington and the states.

    That gives Trump a context in which he can make-believe presidenting without actually being presidential,

    all the while blaming governors for outcomes largely of his own creation.

    , the president said:

    For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that

    it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government.

    Let it be fully understood that
    this is incorrect. … It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons.

    With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue.

    A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!

    Trump is saying in the clearest terms possible that a president has more authority in a state than that state’s governor.

    He’s implying, though not saying, that a governor must comply with his “order” to “reopen” that state’s economy.

    Trump is a Republican,

    whose party for the last half century

    glorified the rights and sovereignty of the states

    in order to slow, or prevent, the federal government’s “interference” with their sociopolitical orders.

    Usurping the power of state governors ... is a natural outcome, I think, of Trump’s acquittal.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/this-is-why-trumps-claim-that-he-has-the-power-to-nullify-states-rights-is-so-staggering/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4280

    Of Trash's total absence of the idioms of English, early gradeschool vocab, and hilarious conception "open up state".

    None were closed, opening bull .

    Does Trash think he, or governors, can force people into a safety hazard.

    SA mayor put stay-home in force before Abbott could get of his ass, so now can Abbott annul SA's order?


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    ‘It feels like a war zone’:

    As more of them die,

    grocery workers increasingly fear showing up at work


    At least 41 grocery workers have died of the coronavirus and

    thousands more have tested positive in recent weeks


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/12/grocery-worker-fear-death-coronavirus/?utm_campaign=wp_to_your_health&utm_medium=email&u tm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_tyh&wpmk=1



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    probably that the president wants to her

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    Covid-19 and Vaccines with Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai

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    Can you imagine the blowback if Hillary had appointed Chelsea to a reopening council even though one of her advanced degrees is in public health?
    They would have themselves right before their heads exploded.

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    [reposts another youtube]
    No one, and I mean no one, is going to watch that. I haven't watched any of your videos in months, and no one else has either.

    Just so you understand that you are farting into the wind.

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    Why is there not one doctor or public health expert on this death council?

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    Why is there not one doctor or public health expert on this death council?
    not even token Ben Carson

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    No one, and I mean no one, is going to watch that. I haven't watched any of your videos in months, and no one else has either.

    Just so you understand that you are farting into the wind.
    I once clicked on one of his Jimmy Dore videos and paid for it on youtube when they kept reccomending me that POS for weeks.

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