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    What are their differences?

    Is it because Joe has the D next to his name?
    Not sure if serious, tbh.

    I don’t think biden would have fought for and prioritized a $1T tax cut that overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy. He would have nominated more progressive judges. He would not have tried to dismantle the ACA. He wouldn’t have eviscerated environmental regulations. Should I keep going?

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    What are their differences?

    Is it because Joe has the D next to his name?
    Empathy vs no empathy, stabilization vs chaos...the likes.

    Aren't you tired of the constant brazen lawlessness from this president? Biden might be all those things you mentioned, even with his "dementia" he's no where near as volatile as Trump.

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    Empathy vs no empathy, stabilization vs chaos...the likes.

    Aren't you tired of the constant brazen lawlessness from this president? Biden might be all those things you mentioned, even with his "dementia" he's no where near as volatile as Trump.
    You have no reasoning. Your whole thing is what makes liberals insufferable. The presidential vs unpresidential debate. Neither one of these rubes are presidential, either.

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    The ACA stabds today. It's true that Trump gave the billionaire class a massive handjob with that tax cut, which is why it was essential he not win in 2016. Whatever we do now to stop the emissions is not enough. I'm not going to pretend I know what Joe was peddling on it, but we need the US and entire world to get to zero. And we want to talk about judges, but why not mention that RGB should have allowed Ughbama to pick her replacement? Why did she want her coronation to be Hillary picking her replacement? How ing mental is that

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    You guys allow your politicians to continue going right, because "theres just no dealing" with the right, so you guys believe your "progressive" liberal politicians that they have to be the big boys at the table and continue to go further and further right, because there's a giant crying baby they're dealing with, in the form of the GOP. Why take that , man? Why do you ask for the barest of minimums from the DNC, is my thing.

    "well, it's better than a republican". Yes, that's true, i'm not saying it isn't, but you guys are being taken for a ride.

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    You have no reasoning. Your whole thing is what makes liberals insufferable. The presidential vs unpresidential debate. Neither one of these rubes are presidential, either.
    Oh I have them. You just dont agree with them.

    You have spent the last week here crying and chiding people willing to vote for Biden because the other choice is not something they can live with. It's their choice, you just have to live with it. You're not changing minds here.

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    Really feels like a waste of time to argue with people who truly can't differentiate between the two candidates and the very real implications of one candidate's potential cabinet vs the other, but off the top of my head here are a few things.

    Court appointments
    A four year or more break from tax cuts for the rich
    Unlikely to veto progressive legislation
    Possibility of reestablishing positive relations with Iran
    Possibility of any oversight whatsoever on foreign election interference
    Possibility of some increase in minimum wage
    Return to a global leadership role on the environment
    People like Joe Arpaio and Dinesh D'Souza not getting pardoned
    Possibility, however remote, of DC and/or Puerto Rico statehood which balances Senate power in favor of progressives.
    Having someone in office who might, possibly, maybe, be capable of giving a somewhat unifying speech when the country needs it... and a President who runs his Twitter account like a milquetoast, soulless slogan robot is far preferable to one who runs it like 12 incel trolls with the same password.

    Obviously "possible" is no guarantee but I'll vote for the President who gives us a better chance than 0% on the above.

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    The ACA stabds today. It's true that Trump gave the billionaire class a massive handjob with that tax cut, which is why it was essential he not win in 2016. Whatever we do now to stop the emissions is not enough. I'm not going to pretend I know what Joe was peddling on it, but we need the US and entire world to get to zero. And we want to talk about judges, but why not mention that RGB should have allowed Ughbama to pick her replacement? Why did she want her coronation to be Hillary picking her replacement? How ing mental is that
    You’re stuck in the past. I’m talking about the future. You’re emotional.

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    Oh I have them. You just dont agree with them.

    You have spent the last week here crying and chiding people willing to vote for Biden because the other choice is not something they can live with. It's their choice, you just have to live with it. You're not changing minds here.
    I'm living with it. And you're right. I'll just drop it

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    And we want to talk about judges, but why not mention that RGB should have allowed Ughbama to pick her replacement? Why did she want her coronation to be Hillary picking her replacement? How ing mental is that
    Everybody acknowledges this. It's been discussed ad nauseum. It's not the situation we're facing.

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    Really feels like a waste of time to argue with people who truly can't differentiate between the two candidates and the very real implications of one candidate's potential cabinet vs the other, but off the top of my head here are a few things.

    Court appointments
    A four year or more break from tax cuts for the rich
    Unlikely to veto progressive legislation
    Possibility of reestablishing positive relations with Iran
    Possibility of any oversight whatsoever on foreign election interference
    Possibility of some increase in minimum wage
    Return to a global leadership role on the environment
    People like Joe Arpaio and Dinesh D'Souza not getting pardoned
    Possibility, however remote, of DC and/or Puerto Rico statehood which balances Senate power in favor of progressives.
    Having someone in office who might, possibly, maybe, be capable of giving a somewhat unifying speech when the country needs it... and a President who runs his Twitter account like a milquetoast, soulless slogan robot is far preferable to one who runs it like 12 incel trolls with the same password.

    Obviously "possible" is no guarantee but I'll vote for the President who gives us a better chance than 0% on the above.
    Props to Obama on the Iran deal, which was one of the few good things he did.

    But we're always going to interfere with foreign elections, and it does not matter who is in charge. Even MSNBC is pushing that Guiado should be president, and that there was no coup in Bolivia

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    I know what we're getting with a Trump Presidency. If the alternative is either possibly the same or possibly a little better, I'll choose the alternative. It's not going to be worse.

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    But I didn't come here to change anyones minds. It's clear people are set on who to vote for, and me talking will not sway anyone one way or the other.


    Biden is still the goat vice president at deporting people. He might step it up and try to outdo 44

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    Well he’s right.... how is he wrong?

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    He’s really bad at talking about anything black people-related.

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    He’s really bad at talking about anything black people-related.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4NmtSrqtvI

    Disagree

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    He’s really bad at talking about anything black people-related.
    subtlety not his strong suit.

    In terms of getting things moving in one direction in a short amount of time, he is right. But with no Dr. King, there is no black lives matter or any kind of civil rights movement today to benefit from.

    Between Biden’s loose lips and Trump’s team thinking they have some kind of moral high ground on this they pretty much cancel each other. We remain the losers in this.

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    He’s really bad at talking about anything black people-related.

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    subtlety not his strong suit.

    In terms of getting things moving in one direction in a short amount of time, he is right. But with no Dr. King, there is no black lives matter or any kind of civil rights movement today to benefit from.

    Between Biden’s loose lips and Trump’s team thinking they have some kind of moral high ground on this they pretty much cancel each other. We remain the losers in this.

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    This is by far his best black people quote:
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...711-story.html

    “I have friends on the far left, and they can justify to me the murder of a white deaf mute for a nickel by five colored guys,” he said. “They say black men had been oppressed and so on. But they can’t justify some Alabama farmers tar and feathering an old colored woman.”

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    has anyone confirmed whether the story about corn pop is even remotely true?

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    This is by far his best black people quote:
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...711-story.html

    “I have friends on the far left, and they can justify to me the murder of a white deaf mute for a nickel by five colored guys,” he said. “They say black men had been oppressed and so on. But they can’t justify some Alabama farmers tar and feathering an old colored woman.”
    America was different in the 70's, jack. You have to live with it and move forward, ok? You need to be happy and vote for Biden.

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    This is by far his best black people quote:
    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-...711-story.html

    “I have friends on the far left, and they can justify to me the murder of a white deaf mute for a nickel by five colored guys,” he said. “They say black men had been oppressed and so on. But they can’t justify some Alabama farmers tar and feathering an old colored woman.”
    “You cannot go into a 7/11 without someone having an Indian accent.

    He’s unintentionally gringe funny.

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    America was different in the 70's, jack. You have to live with it and move forward, ok? You need to be happy and vote for Biden.
    The excuses made for him are more or less the same thing as when the mom tells her kids “grandpa isn’t racist, he just lived in a different time and doesn’t know any better!”

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