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    Even Repug-in-house pollster Rasmussen told Trash is way down nationally

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    Less and less red, more brown and blue.

    That is the current default map.

    This is what happens when MOST of the swing states electoral votes go Republican:



    This is unlikely in a wave year.

    This is what happens in a huge wave year, highly unlikely it will be that bad for the fascists.



    Reality will be somewhere in between. Fewer and fewer roads to re-election for Trump either way.

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    there’s no way these numbers hold up through Election Day, but the polls added on fivethirtyeight today are ridiculously bad for Trump. They show Biden up 10 points in Florida, 13+ in Michigan, Biden up 2 points in GA, and Purdue’s seat in GA as a toss-up.

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    what can Trash and the Repugs do?

    Trash is Trash, incapable of doing anything except make his case worse

    Repugs? won't counter Trash

    200K dead and 30M unemployed on 3 Nov

    I read an article that said Trash's "october surprise" would a bullied, sycophantic FDA approving a C19 vaccine, as if Trash would have had anything to do with it.

    Trash's obese carcass is cooked.

    There simply not enough time to test a vaccine on 1000s of people.

    And what are the ethics of vaccinating 1000s of people and then infecting them with a pathogen as nasty as C19?


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    there’s no way these numbers hold up through Election Day, but the polls added on fivethirtyeight today are ridiculously bad for Trump. They show Biden up 10 points in Florida, 13+ in Michigan, Biden up 2 points in GA, and Purdue’s seat in GA as a toss-up.
    Crazy how Wisconsin has gotten completely away from Trump.

    Dude had a 5 point lead there on average just last month or so. Now it has flipped around to a Biden+4.

    I'm not going to delude myself thinking Biden has a chance in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and even Florida to an extent.

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    there’s no way these numbers hold up through Election Day, but the polls added on fivethirtyeight today are ridiculously bad for Trump. They show Biden up 10 points in Florida, 13+ in Michigan, Biden up 2 points in GA, and Purdue’s seat in GA as a toss-up.
    there's still time for old Joe to fumble this though... unless the campaign hides him again all the way to November

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    there's still time for old Joe to fumble this though... unless the campaign hides him again all the way to November
    More in the other direction me thinks. Just let Trump be Trump essentially.

    Just this morning he was giving a press conference on police reform and he was doing ok for Trump but than he went off the rails about Obama and Biden for some reason and then went on a 20 minute rambling about curing AIDS.

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    Crazy how Wisconsin has gotten completely away from Trump.

    Dude had a 5 point lead there on average just last month or so. Now it has flipped around to a Biden+4.

    I'm not going to delude myself thinking Biden has a chance in Georgia, Texas, Ohio and even Florida to an extent.
    He has a chance in Florida but it would need to be a favorable climate for the Dems politically. Rest assured De Santis will create lines as long as possible in Broward county.

    Iowa is the state the DNC should be dumping money into. Trump isn’t as popular there as he is in Ohio and My gut feeling is the party that wins the Iowa senate race will win the senate.

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    there's still time for old Joe to fumble this though... unless the campaign hides him again all the way to November
    COVID-19 was a best case scenario for Jim Crow Joe, it allowed him to sleep 16 hours a day and no one would care.

    Im still worried about how quickly he’s going to up once he’s out campaigning 12+ hours a day and can’t live on an old man schedule.

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    More in the other direction me thinks. Just let Trump be Trump essentially.

    Just this morning he was giving a press conference on police reform and he was doing ok for Trump but than he went off the rails about Obama and Biden for some reason and then went on a 20 minute rambling about curing AIDS.
    I get the desperation of getting rid of this guy, but it's frankly pathetic you're genuinely scared less of your own candidate opening his mouth and saying what he thinks, tbh...

    And sorry, but the fact that he's running against what basically amounts the lowest bar ever doesn't really justifies that, IMO.

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    I get the desperation of getting rid of this guy, but it's frankly pathetic you're genuinely scared less of your own candidate opening his mouth and saying what he thinks, tbh...

    And sorry, but the fact that he's running against what basically amounts the lowest bar ever doesn't really justifies that, IMO.
    remember 2008 when Dems were screaming about how “irresponsible” it was to nominate John McCain because he was “too old”

    2008 John McCain is a ing newborn baby compared 2020 Jim Crow Joe

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    I get the desperation of getting rid of this guy, but it's frankly pathetic you're genuinely scared less of your own candidate opening his mouth and saying what he thinks, tbh...

    And sorry, but the fact that he's running against what basically amounts the lowest bar ever doesn't really justifies that, IMO.
    Im talking about Trump this morning.

    I’m not one of the people who put too much stock into what Biden might say or not. I don’t think that will factor in much. Biden at a bare minimum is senile. Everyone knows that.

    You take him or leave him.

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    remember 2008 when Dems were screaming about how “irresponsible” it was to nominate John McCain because he was “too old”

    2008 John McCain is a ing newborn baby compared 2020 Jim Crow Joe
    Trump is another example of senile old people, tbh... Shillary was too. Need to put an upper cap on candidates, tbh... we have a floor, need to put a ceiling. 60, 65 tops.

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    there’s no way these numbers hold up through Election Day, but the polls added on fivethirtyeight today are ridiculously bad for Trump. They show Biden up 10 points in Florida, 13+ in Michigan, Biden up 2 points in GA, and Purdue’s seat in GA as a toss-up.
    GA and Florida going blue puts map into Democratic lock. All other narrow swing states could go red, and Trump still loses.



    But this will be a blue wave year, so count on that margin just going further to Biden.

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    Im talking about Trump this morning.

    I’m not one of the people who put too much stock into what Biden might say or not. I don’t think that will factor in much. Biden at a bare minimum is senile. Everyone knows that.

    You take him or leave him.
    Sure, but I don't have to like that "you take him or leave him"...

    You can't say you care about this country and then tell me the best option "at a bare minimum is senile"

    I'm not saying it's your fault, but if we have a system that distills a candidate like that, then we need to rethink that system.

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    2020 blue riot

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    Im talking about Trump this morning.

    I’m not one of the people who put too much stock into what Biden might say or not. I don’t think that will factor in much. Biden at a bare minimum is senile. Everyone knows that.

    You take him or leave him.
    I give it better than even odds he doesn't finish his first term. That will make the VP candidate waaaay more important.

    Biden picks a woman, and that woman will be the first female president. A lot of women will understand that.

    I expect the fascist party to go full in on the dogwhistle sexism just like they do for racism now. Trump won't be able to help himself.

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    GA and Florida going blue puts map into Democratic lock. All other narrow swing states could go red, and Trump still loses.



    But this will be a blue wave year, so count on that margin just going further to Biden.
    Let’s not count our chickens before they’re hatched. Once Fox News takes the gloves off and starts calling Joe Biden a communist who wants to turn your first born children into Matrix-style human batteries for Planned Parenthood to sell, the re vote in states like Florida and Pennsylvania will swing back and we’ll see a much closer race.

    This could easily be another 2016 if the economy quickly recovers (or even appears to be quickly recovering) and if the Dems go overboard with the defund the police . The BLM movement has had a positive effect in the polls so far but it could easily morph into a train that runs off the tracks and scares suburban women into voting Republican again.

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    I give it better than even odds he doesn't finish his first term. That will make the VP candidate waaaay more important.

    Biden picks a woman, and that woman will be the first female president. A lot of women will understand that.

    I expect the fascist party to go full in on the dogwhistle sexism just like they do for racism now. Trump won't be able to help himself.
    Someone loves their iden y politics

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    I give it better than even odds he doesn't finish his first term.
    The fact you see this as a “no big deal” is what ENono is talking about. Why the were the media, DNC and most Democratic leaders so nonchalant about nominating a candidate who has no chance at making it through 2 terms?

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    The fact you see this as a “no big deal” is what ENono is talking about. Why the were the media, DNC and most Democratic leaders so nonchalant about nominating a candidate who has no chance at making it through 2 terms?
    Wasn't my first, or even second choice. ing moderates wanted another ing middle of the road surrender to the conservatives, IMO.

    It is what it is. Quite frankly, happy to go with him, he is on balance, a decent guy.

    I would be willing to bet my commentary about his chances are probably being spoken quietly in the kinds of discussions one has out of the limelight.

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    Let’s not count our chickens before they’re hatched. Once Fox News takes the gloves off and starts calling Joe Biden a communist who wants to turn your first born children into Matrix-style human batteries for Planned Parenthood to sell, the re vote in states like Florida and Pennsylvania will swing back and we’ll see a much closer race.

    This could easily be another 2016 if the economy quickly recovers (or even appears to be quickly recovering) and if the Dems go overboard with the defund the police . The BLM movement has had a positive effect in the polls so far but it could easily morph into a train that runs off the tracks and scares suburban women into voting Republican again.
    Fox "news" reach shrinks daily. They aren't going to get any more traction than they are now.

    Economy was already slowing down before this happened. Once the stimulus wears off, it will stay mired in a swamp, as that was the general momentum. This just gave that a big push.

    I don't see a whole lot changing before November, other than Trumps approval reverting to the mean from its current low ebb. Interesting to see tho.

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    Fox "news" reach shrinks daily. They aren't going to get any more traction than they are now.

    Economy was already slowing down before this happened. Once the stimulus wears off, it will stay mired in a swamp, as that was the general momentum. This just gave that a big push.

    I don't see a whole lot changing before November, other than Trumps approval reverting to the mean from its current low ebb. Interesting to see tho.
    Yeah if the economy stays ty, Trump is toast and the Dems have a good chance at taking the Senate. There’s no question about that imo. A V-shaped recovery is the only way Trump wins.

    A state like Arizona is full of braindead Karen housewives though. If Fox starts peddling a stupid conspiracy theory about Jim Crow Joe, it’s going to stick with a lot of them once the Karens start talking about it at the regular PTA meeting.

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    I get the desperation of getting rid of this guy, but it's frankly pathetic you're genuinely scared less of your own candidate opening his mouth and saying what he thinks, tbh...

    And sorry, but the fact that he's running against what basically amounts the lowest bar ever doesn't really justifies that, IMO.
    Reck, and RG for that matter, don't care about the candidate or any particular policies. They're just scarred from their girl losing unexpectedly and are hoping to trigger da repugs the way they were triggered last time.

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    Yeah if the economy stays ty, Trump is toast and the Dems have a good chance at taking the Senate. There’s no question about that imo. A V-shaped recovery is the only way Trump wins.

    A state like Arizona is full of braindead Karen housewives though. If Fox starts peddling a stupid conspiracy theory about Jim Crow Joe, it’s going to stick with a lot of them once the Karens start talking about it at the regular PTA meeting.
    Disagree. I bet Trump tries to push a UBI in September.

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