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    They were. Cops just hadn't murdered enough black guys on video to get anything changed yet.

    Hope that helped you understand.
    See 2019 9 blacks unarmed by blacks
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    Nothing changed at all dumbass except now white man in office
    Racist after black man got the boot out

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    Oh 19 unarmed White folk got shot by cops in 2019

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    Oh 19 unarmed White folk got shot by cops in 2019
    all the more reason to clamp down on excessive force

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    all the more reason to clamp down on excessive force
    Yep. No ones saying white people being gunned down by cops is OK, I don’t see why that’s a counter argument.

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    The subtlety of language seems to elude you and cuckblake. Using a stage name as a career is different than playing a part in a movie that lasts an hour and a half.
    Right! Exactly like Aunt Jemima!
    I get it now.

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    Yep. No ones saying white people being gunned down by cops is OK, I don’t see why that’s a counter argument.
    Almost all want to take steps against policy brutality. It is the race angle that is sidetracking the discussion

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    Nothing changed at all dumbass except now white man in office
    Racist after black man got the boot out
    did you even read what I posted?

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    Nothing changed at all dumbass except now white man in office
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    How did black guy get booted out and why aren’t you in that church?

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    Ducks is in Arizona and he’s ducking the church

    Says a lot

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    Almost all want to take steps against policy brutality. It is the race angle that is sidetracking the discussion
    There's a fundamental issue where the cops are becoming more militant. Part of that is because urban police basically are doing tours of duty for 20 years in what amounts to war torn Somalia-like conditions. They learn tactics to cope and mitigate, they pass those on to government agencies who use it for training material for local cops who, at most, arrest a DUI driver every other weekend. The result thus far has been front line style tactics with civilians since cops seem to be under orders to assume all persons are threats, and to neutralize them using as much force as that individual deems necessary. Based on the upbringing and disposition of some of the clowns that attend police academies, that leeway with use of force often results in brutality. In fact, if you want to bring out the asshole in someone, give them some power. Cops quite often became cops because they had no power in their regular lives, so they get some authority over common folks and they get tacti-cool suddenly, they are the high speed ones, you are the idiots, you must be subdued at all costs if you give them any legal reason.

    In the past it seems some cops at least kept their cool until the situation escalated, now since many cops have no idea who they are policing - they don't know their own communities - every day is "stay alive at all costs" day. That video of that trooper getting shot because he hesitated, trusted, stood down too long.. that isn't going to be them. So they not only react more violently, they often seek reasons to do so. The Sr officers are usually the calm in the storm of testosterone when they are called to the scene. That's why you see them tell the jr officer "just let it go" many times, and for the citizen to have a nice day. The jr officer wanted nothing more than to keep ratcheting up the situation that, underneath it all, was pointless to begin with. This is why so many encounters lead to injury or death. Sure some is brought on by the perps, but in a war the POWs aren't that human.. cops can't treat people like POWs.

    The entire police force nationwide acts as a fraternity, in that they close ranks when one of "theirs" is called out but that's not how the rest of city, state and federal employees act.

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    There's a fundamental issue where the cops are becoming more militant. Part of that is because urban police basically are doing tours of duty for 20 years in what amounts to war torn Somalia-like conditions. They learn tactics to cope and mitigate, they pass those on to government agencies who use it for training material for local cops who, at most, arrest a DUI driver every other weekend. The result thus far has been front line style tactics with civilians since cops seem to be under orders to assume all persons are threats, and to neutralize them using as much force as that individual deems necessary. Based on the upbringing and disposition of some of the clowns that attend police academies, that leeway with use of force often results in brutality. In fact, if you want to bring out the asshole in someone, give them some power. Cops quite often became cops because they had no power in their regular lives, so they get some authority over common folks and they get tacti-cool suddenly, they are the high speed ones, you are the idiots, you must be subdued at all costs if you give them any legal reason.

    In the past it seems some cops at least kept their cool until the situation escalated, now since many cops have no idea who they are policing - they don't know their own communities - every day is "stay alive at all costs" day. That video of that trooper getting shot because he hesitated, trusted, stood down too long.. that isn't going to be them. So they not only react more violently, they often seek reasons to do so. The Sr officers are usually the calm in the storm of testosterone when they are called to the scene. That's why you see them tell the jr officer "just let it go" many times, and for the citizen to have a nice day. The jr officer wanted nothing more than to keep ratcheting up the situation that, underneath it all, was pointless to begin with. This is why so many encounters lead to injury or death. Sure some is brought on by the perps, but in a war the POWs aren't that human.. cops can't treat people like POWs.

    The entire police force nationwide acts as a fraternity, in that they close ranks when one of "theirs" is called out but that's not how the rest of city, state and federal employees act.
    That's quite the rambling narrative

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    There's a fundamental issue where the cops are becoming more militant. Part of that is because urban police basically are doing tours of duty for 20 years in what amounts to war torn Somalia-like conditions. They learn tactics to cope and mitigate, they pass those on to government agencies who use it for training material for local cops who, at most, arrest a DUI driver every other weekend. The result thus far has been front line style tactics with civilians since cops seem to be under orders to assume all persons are threats, and to neutralize them using as much force as that individual deems necessary. Based on the upbringing and disposition of some of the clowns that attend police academies, that leeway with use of force often results in brutality. In fact, if you want to bring out the asshole in someone, give them some power. Cops quite often became cops because they had no power in their regular lives, so they get some authority over common folks and they get tacti-cool suddenly, they are the high speed ones, you are the idiots, you must be subdued at all costs if you give them any legal reason.

    In the past it seems some cops at least kept their cool until the situation escalated, now since many cops have no idea who they are policing - they don't know their own communities - every day is "stay alive at all costs" day. That video of that trooper getting shot because he hesitated, trusted, stood down too long.. that isn't going to be them. So they not only react more violently, they often seek reasons to do so. The Sr officers are usually the calm in the storm of testosterone when they are called to the scene. That's why you see them tell the jr officer "just let it go" many times, and for the citizen to have a nice day. The jr officer wanted nothing more than to keep ratcheting up the situation that, underneath it all, was pointless to begin with. This is why so many encounters lead to injury or death. Sure some is brought on by the perps, but in a war the POWs aren't that human.. cops can't treat people like POWs.

    The entire police force nationwide acts as a fraternity, in that they close ranks when one of "theirs" is called out but that's not how the rest of city, state and federal employees act.
    I fully agree with your assessment. I think American society as a whole has become militant. The music and video games shape at young age.

    Your point about the Cops no longer representing their own neighborhoods is a big reason to me why I am against privatizing

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