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    The argument is that a lifetime appointment makes it so they’re not beholden to special interests.
    That's a false argument from the establishment. They can get removed at any time right now.

    And they are beholden to special interests, imo. It's how they got there.

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    They should just put a cap on age... that way, you can't be doing this whole 'let keep her in vegetative state until the next election'.

    Problem obviously is that it requires a Cons utional amendment, IIRC. There's better odds of tholdren being right once than passing an amendment nowadays, tbh.

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    I think an appointment with one set term and they can’t be renominated after the 1 term would be fine in terms of limiting the special interest influence though. The line that I don’t think we can cross is requiring SCOTUS judges to have to campaign and raise money.
    That would be a start. I don't think they need renomination. We don't have a shortage of people to fill the seats.

    I don't know why they'd have to campaign. It's an appointment, not an election.

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    i could see him retiring if Trump loses, then they rush it through, who knows when they'll have both branches again and after the McConnell pulled I doubt a Dem run Senate pushes any R nominated justice through
    I think that would be a bridge too far and wouldn’t work. Trying to ram a SCOTUS nominee through after the American people have already voted for a new president and new senate majority would be some House of Cards type .

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    That would be a start. I don't think they need renomination. We don't have a shortage of people to fill the seats.

    I don't know why they'd have to campaign. It's an appointment, not an election.
    Yeah I’d be against renomination. The intent is that they can vote with unimpeachable integrity as they don’t need to worry about currying political favor for a renomination.

    And they wouldn’t have to campaign, what I was saying is that I wouldnt want a scenario where they did.

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    The thing Congress can do, and has done before, to game this is increase the number of SCOTUS members...

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    I think that would be a bridge too far and wouldn’t work. Trying to ram a SCOTUS nominee through after the American people have already voted for a new president and new senate majority would be some House of Cards type .
    Why wouldn't it work? Trump has annulled the first amendment and gotten away with it, why would a lame duck session appointment be worse?

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    The thing Congress can do, and has done before, to game this is increase the number of SCOTUS members...
    Which they should do if the Democrats take the Senate. McConnell already set the precedent that 9 is arbitrary when he decided to decrease the number of SCOTUS members.

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    Why wouldn't it work? Trump has annulled the first amendment and gotten away with it, why would a lame duck session appointment be worse?
    The way the Kavanaugh pick is biting Collins in the ass I think senators like Toomey with vulnerable seats in 2022 would be worried about going along with it.

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    Which they should do if the Democrats take the Senate. McConnell already set the precedent that 9 is arbitrary when he decided to decrease the number of SCOTUS members.
    It’ll never happen but Dems should go medieval if they retake the senate and the White House. End the filibuster ASAP and start ramming legislation through. Combine North and South Dakota while we’re at it.

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    The thing Congress can do, and has done before, to game this is increase the number of SCOTUS members...
    I think since McConnell stole a seat from Obama,

    and since McConnell has polluted the Federal judiciary with ,

    Dems should them back by sitting 2 more very progressive judges for a total of 11 judges, 6 progressive to 5 regressive.

    I expect McConnell/Leo/oligarchy will stack every single open Federal judgeship with before 20 Jan.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 07-17-2020 at 05:19 PM.

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    I think that would be a bridge too far and wouldn’t work. Trying to ram a SCOTUS nominee through after the American people have already voted for a new president and new senate majority would be some House of Cards type .
    McConnell held a senate seat for months so "the voters could figure it out" and if the same were to happen now, which is what we're talking about, would have no problem saying " the voters", there is nothing they won't do.

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    The way the Kavanaugh pick is biting Collins in the ass I think senators like Toomey with vulnerable seats in 2022 would be worried about going along with it.
    I doubt it, I think they'd rather get one last you to the left in.

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    Can you just imagine if she croaked and Trump/McConnell rammed through a Judge appointment before November? Boutons and RandomGuys heads would explode.
    Trumps picks are actually kinda liberal

    I prefer it to a Pence pick tbqh

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    I doubt it, I think they'd rather get one last you to the left in.
    Yeah Nevermind, I forgot Ron Johnson and Burr are retiring in 2022, so it’s only Toomey who might go against it, and that’s not enough.

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    It’ll never happen but Dems should go medieval if they retake the senate and the White House. End the filibuster ASAP and start ramming legislation through. Combine North and South Dakota while we’re at it.
    Not even that POS McConnel would end the filibuster, and if the Dems were to do it, it would bite them in the ass just like ending 60 votes for judicial appointment did. The republicans have the money to play the long game, and if they ever get control like they did in 2016, which they absolutely can because Trump's base ain't going away, they will absolutely the American people even worse.

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    Kavanaughty is ma noga

    Id drink a few beers with that pervert

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    Trumps picks are actually kinda liberal

    I prefer it to a Pence pick tbqh
    I’d call Gorsuch principled and not a blind partisan shill like Alito is, but Kavanaugh is a conservative partisan masquerading as a Supreme Court judge. There’s no rational argument that he’s “kinda liberal”

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    I’d call Gorsuch principled and not a blind partisan shill like Alito is, but Kavanaugh is a conservative partisan masquerading as a Supreme Court judge. There’s no rational argument that he’s “kinda liberal”
    He drinks and s pretty liberally imo

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    Kavanaughty is ma noga

    Id drink a few beers with that pervert
    I got nothing wrong with Kavanaugh the man, Ford was probably full of , and even if she wasn't, she can off for waiting 30 years. But he'll over the poor like the good federalist society member he is.

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    Not even that POS McConnel would end the filibuster, and if the Dems were to do it, it would bite them in the ass just like ending 60 votes for judicial appointment did. The republicans have the money to play the long game, and if they ever get control like they did in 2016, which they absolutely can because Trump's base ain't going away, they will absolutely the American people even worse.
    McConnell would never end the filibuster because it grants him enormous power no matter what the political climate of the US is since he's guaranteed to have 40+ senators at pretty much all times.

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    Not even that POS McConnel would end the filibuster, and if the Dems were to do it, it would bite them in the ass just like ending 60 votes for judicial appointment did. The republicans have the money to play the long game, and if they ever get control like they did in 2016, which they absolutely can because Trump's base ain't going away, they will absolutely the American people even worse.
    That’s what I thought too but look what happened with Obamacare, they had two years to repeal it and didn’t need 60 votes because they could do it through budget reconciliation, ultimately though there were always just enough Republicans who didn’t want to put their name on something that took healthcare away from millions of Americans. I think the same thing would happen with for example UBI legislation - even when the Republicans ultimately got control back, good luck finding enough of them who’d want to take universal basic income away from the hundreds of millions of Americans living in near poverty.

    It would never happen though since Pelosi and Jewmer are just as against real progressive legislation as McConnell is.

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    Yeah I’d be against renomination. The intent is that they can vote with unimpeachable integrity as they don’t need to worry about currying political favor for a renomination.

    And they wouldn’t have to campaign, what I was saying is that I wouldnt want a scenario where they did.
    Judges are susceptible to impeachment now. If anyone is of that low of character, we shouldn't be proactively protecting them in our processes.

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    I got nothing wrong with Kavanaugh the man, Ford was probably full of , and even if she wasn't, she can off for waiting 30 years. But he'll over the poor like the good federalist society member he is.
    They all over the poor. Please dont tell me you buy Ginsbergs act

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    I’d call Gorsuch principled and not a blind partisan shill like Alito is, but Kavanaugh is a conservative partisan masquerading as a Supreme Court judge. There’s no rational argument that he’s “kinda liberal”
    Roberts is a liberal shill too. And the two appointees that Obama did was amateur hour. I don't think that term limits gets rid of shills; but it at least limits how long we have to deal with them.

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