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    I think you're seeing a pretend contradiction. Why should I be scared about people operating in the open if they're not infringing on other people's rights?
    You don’t see a contradiction between (i) fears of government being run by oligarchs/“deep state” and (ii) being in favor of billionaires having an outsized influence over politicians with PAC money?

    You don’t think that a billionaire being able to create influence over a politician infringes on other people’s right to representation?

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    No different than taxes you can avoid or lower by having a mortgage, kids, etc. By your logic me paying FICA taxes so old people get free healthcare is compulsory submission as well.
    Yea, FICA is not Cons utional either. So yea, that is by my logic.

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    Yea, FICA is not Cons utional either. So yea, that is by my logic.
    Are income taxes as whole uncons utional in your view?

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    You don’t see a contradiction between (i) fears of government being run by oligarchs/“deep state” and (ii) being in favor of billionaires having an outsized influence over politicians with PAC money?

    You don’t think that a billionaire being able to create influence over a politician infringes on other people’s right to representation?
    I can see the same forces at play in some cases. But one is a shadow government and the other is operating above board (two quite different things).

    I could easily argue that someone like Hillary wants to limit ads against her while the corporate media controls the narrative for her.

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    Are income taxes as whole uncons utional in your view?
    Not for the same reason(s), but yes. The states never ratified the income tax amendment.

    You see how the federal government doesn't feel beholden to the Cons ution?

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    The states never ratified the income tax amendment.
    is this a conspiracy theory or something?

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    is this a conspiracy theory or something?
    No. That's a fact. You can look it up. Is your world view shattering?

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    Not for the same reason(s), but yes. The states never ratified the income tax amendment.
    of course they did.

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    42 states ratified the 16th amendment

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    Clarence Thomas

    Thats the nigas name

    A black supreme court nazi judge that nobody can touch because hes black the first black supreme judge and his name is clarence

    ing genius whoever pushed him through

    And I think hes married to a white woman

    Goddam trifecta



    Cry about that snowflakes

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    Clarence Thomas

    Thats the nigas name

    A black supreme court nazi judge that nobody can touch because hes black the first black supreme judge and his name is clarence

    ing genius whoever pushed him through

    And I think hes married to a white woman

    Goddam trifecta



    Cry about that snowflakes
    Um....

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    Exactly

    You cant talk about him

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    Exactly

    You cant talk about him
    No, I was talking about your whiffing on the "facts."

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    Can u imagine if kavanaughtys wife did this


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    I'm looking forward to a Biden Presidency. Helicopter money incoming.

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    If the president has to have a health report every year I think the Supreme Court judges do
    I do not think she is healthy enough to be a judge

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    No. That's a fact. You can look it up. Is your world view shattering?
    I did look it up. It became law after Delaware ratified it and became the 36th state to do so.

    Im anxious to see your proof of how it’s a “fact” that the states never ratified the 16th amendment.

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    I did look it up. It became law after Delaware ratified it and became the 36th state to do so.

    Im anxious to see your proof of how it’s a “fact” that the states never ratified the 16th amendment.
    https://www.thelawthatneverwas.com/

    The Discovery Article V of the U.S. Cons ution defines the ratification process and requires three-fourths of the states to ratify any amendment proposed by Congress. There were fourty-eight states in the American Union in 1913, meaning that affirmative action of thirty-six was necessary for ratification. In February 1913, Secretary of State Philander Knox proclaimed that thirty-eight had ratified the Amendment. In 1984 Bill Benson began a research project, never before performed, to investigate the process of ratification of the 16th Amendment. After traveling to the capitols of the New England states and reviewing the journals of the state legislative bodies, he saw that many states had not ratified. He continued his research at the National Archives in Washington, D.C.; it was here that Bill found his Golden Key. This damning piece of evidence is a sixteen-page memorandum from the Solicitor of the Department of State, among whose duties is the provision of legal opinions for the Secretary of State. In this memorandum, the Solicitor lists the many errors he found in the ratification process. These four states are among the thirty-eight from which Philander Knox claimed ratification:
    • California: The legislature never recorded any vote on any proposal to adopt the amendment proposed by Congress.
    • Kentucky: The Senate voted on the resolution, but rejected it by a vote of nine in favor and twenty-two opposed.
    • Minnesota: The State sent nothing to the Secretary of State in Washington.
    • Oklahoma: The Senate amended the language of the 16th Amendment to have a precisely opposite meaning.

    Bill would like to thank all those who've contributed or shown support in the fight against fraudulent taxation. Click here to help.

    When his project was finished at the end of 1984, Bill had visited the capitol of every state from 1913 and knew that not a single one had actually and legally ratified the proposal to amend the U.S. Cons ution. Thirty-three states engaged in the unauthorized activity of altering the language of an amendment proposed by Congress, a power that the states do not possess. Since thirty-six states were needed for ratification, the failure of thirteen to ratify was fatal to the Amendment. This occurs within the major (first three) defects tabulated in Defects in Ratification of the 16th Amendment. Even if we were to ignore defects of spelling, capitalization and punctuation, we would still have only two states which successfully ratified.
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    No, I was talking about your whiffing on the "facts."
    Muh enemies list

    Always chirping

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    Dr. Ron Paul throwing haymakers.
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    Muh enemies list

    Always chirping
    He's not an enemy.

    Just ignorant about Thurgood Marshall.

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    United States vs Benson, 941 F.2d 598, 607 (7th Cir 1991)

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    Muh government wouldn't lie to me

    lol cherp

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    United States vs Benson, 941 F.2d 598, 607 (7th Cir 1991)
    Looks interesting enough at a glance. You'll have to use your words though.

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