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    stupid video but definitely has its target audience

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    I honestly don’t have a good definition for either of these terms anymore as the examples put up are confusing.

    At One time I thought I had a good definition of a terrorist and it changed to something less specific.

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    stupid video but definitely has its target audience
    Why stupid? Please explain.

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    Just more comedy telling us how to think. I never would have linked “woke” people with racists, but since the two comedians make it sound like common knowledge you would be an idiot to say otherwise.

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    Why stupid? Please explain.
    because its one step away from calling civil rights activists of the 60's racists

    it argues that people who are seeking to eliminate racial injustice are equal to those seeking to create or maintain racial injustice because both of their views/approaches have to do with race

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    it's about as dumb as like this


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    next we are going to hear the advocates for women's suffrage were the same as the sexists who didnt want them to vote, because either way they wanted the change policies and laws based on their sex

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    because its one step away from calling civil rights activists of the 60's racists

    it argues that people who are seeking to eliminate racial injustice are equal to those seeking to create or maintain racial injustice because both of their views/approaches have to do with race
    Because both woke/racist target and demean demographics. "White silence is violence".

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    Because both woke/racist target and demean demographics. "White silence is violence".
    i dont doubt that there are some legitimate "anti-white" people or black nationalists. its a mistake to generalize and say "that is every 'woke' person"

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    Why stupid? Please explain.
    Because it hit the nail on the head and hurt his feelings.

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    video was dumb

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    i dont doubt that there are some legitimate "anti-white" people or black nationalists. its a mistake to generalize and say "that is every 'woke' person"
    The real deal is we may be in the middle of a second civil rights movement but people dont want to acknowledge it.
    The 60s civil rights movement was in no way perfect, there were groups that went extremely violent, not just the police.

    I completely understand the sentiment as when I first came on this board, I asked the question of people on this board:

    Who would you rather be born as and now getting ready to make a life for yourself in the US?

    1. A black female
    2. A white male.

    Explain your reasoning. Thats when I found out some people NEVER leave their computer and dont experience the world around them in this country.
    I live in South Texas. I have personally seen all kinds of actions other people are subject to that I never had thrown at me because I am an in shape, white male. That includes all the fat comments I "used" to hear at salad bars when fat people got up to eat. When you personally get a perfectly innocent black colleague and his family out of trouble with the police solely because you are white... and all the other ... Ive seen too much.

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    And I get called a White Knight by bringing up situations I have personally witnessed.
    Like its some sort of moral high ground, when its just basic observation I noticed VERY early on in life.

    And people have the gall to claim unfair, this world is unfair to white males... fckn snowflakes.

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    The real deal is we may be in the middle of a second civil rights movement but people dont want to acknowledge it.
    The 60s civil rights movement was in no way perfect, there were groups that went extremely violent, not just the police.

    I completely understand the sentiment as when I first came on this board, I asked the question of people on this board:

    Who would you rather be born as and now getting ready to make a life for yourself in the US?

    1. A black female
    2. A white male.


    Explain your reasoning. Thats when I found out some people NEVER leave their computer and dont experience the world around them in this country.
    I live in South Texas. I have personally seen all kinds of actions other people are subject to that I never had thrown at me because I am an in shape, white male. That includes all the fat comments I "used" to hear at salad bars when fat people got up to eat. When you personally get a perfectly innocent black colleague and his family out of trouble with the police solely because you are white... and all the other ... Ive seen too much.
    according to the OP just asking that question makes you a racist and sexist

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    It's hard to be a white man in America right now, because you have to spend hours hearing about how you've got it better than other races. That's basically assault.

    Tough times, man.

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    I think the issue here is that we all too often generalize political and cultural positions as singular, when in fact they exist on a spectrum. "Wokeness" isn't monolithic. There's rational wokeness and irrational wokeness. Rational wokeness is simply wanting to end racial and sexual discrimination where it exists. Rational wokeness is not honoring confederate losers with statues or murderous pedophiles like Columbus with statues and holidays.

    Irrational wokeness is political correctness taken to stifling extremes. I don't think whether a white voice actor voices a black character is something worth being "outraged" about. I don't think trying to guilt every white person for the injustices of slavery is fair or productive, nor do I think labeling every white person as inherently privileged is fair. Lebron James's kids are in a world of different privilege than a white kid born to a meth addict in Missouri. I don't think ins uting "black safe spaces" where black people tell whites they're not welcome because they feel uncomfortable is productive, i.e. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51506733

    Irrational mentalities should always be criticized, whether they're on the left or the right. That said, even with irrational wokeness being a feature of the left, I still consider the Cult of Trumpism a bigger worry.

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    next we are going to hear the advocates for women's suffrage were the same as the sexists who didnt want them to vote, because either way they wanted the change policies and laws based on their sex
    Lol what a terrible argument.

    There are extremists on either side of any opinion.

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    It's hard to be a white man in America right now, because you have to spend hours hearing about how you've got it better than other races. That's basically assault.

    Tough times, man.
    White men in America can't protect their loved ones from verbal/physical attacks without the threat of being arrested and/or fired from job

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    it's about as dumb as like this

    Why is BLM purported mostly by the whitest of white people. Why do you almost never see a major Black celebrity or athlete spouting Black Lives Matter. They are usually saying something else like I can't breathe, etc. That's all I want to know, is it guilt or something else.

    As a minority myself it's funny how all the "woke" people are just now seeing minorities have experienced since they were kids.

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    The real deal is we may be in the middle of a second civil rights movement but people dont want to acknowledge it.
    The 60s civil rights movement was in no way perfect, there were groups that went extremely violent, not just the police.

    I completely understand the sentiment as when I first came on this board, I asked the question of people on this board:

    Who would you rather be born as and now getting ready to make a life for yourself in the US?

    1. A black female
    2. A white male.

    Explain your reasoning. Thats when I found out some people NEVER leave their computer and dont experience the world around them in this country.
    I live in South Texas. I have personally seen all kinds of actions other people are subject to that I never had thrown at me because I am an in shape, white male. That includes all the fat comments I "used" to hear at salad bars when fat people got up to eat. When you personally get a perfectly innocent black colleague and his family out of trouble with the police solely because you are white... and all the other ... Ive seen too much.
    Both college educated. Black male has it easier in 2020 than white male.

    The reason I prefer to be white is because of culture and pressure within the community (Uncle Tom). Companies are foaming at the mouth to hire diversity and pat themselves on the back.

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    Why is BLM purported mostly by the whitest of white people. Why do you almost never see a major Black celebrity or athlete spouting Black Lives Matter. They are usually saying something else like I can't breathe, etc. That's all I want to know, is it guilt or something else.

    As a minority myself it's funny how all the "woke" people are just now seeing minorities have experienced since they were kids.
    which major black celebrities are you referring to who dont tout blm?

    the reason some people paint the narrative that its all weird white kids is to delegitimize the movement
    Last edited by spurraider21; 07-20-2020 at 01:27 PM.

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    Why is BLM purported mostly by the whitest of white people. Why do you almost never see a major Black celebrity or athlete spouting Black Lives Matter. They are usually saying something else like I can't breathe, etc. That's all I want to know, is it guilt or something else.

    As a minority myself it's funny how all the "woke" people are just now seeing minorities have experienced since they were kids.
    I have no idea why you don't see black people saying BLM but your experience is not reality.

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    White men in America can't protect their loved ones from verbal/physical attacks without the threat of being arrested and/or fired from job
    Yes we can.

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    Both college educated. Black male has it easier in 2020 than white male.

    The reason I prefer to be white is because of culture and pressure within the community (Uncle Tom). Companies are foaming at the mouth to hire diversity and pat themselves on the back.
    Yeah sure.
    There are such a high % of college educated black females compared to white males.
    Thats just the point you fckn buffo toad.

    Remember, black females just dont cut making it to college because they are female and black, two genetic predispositions that lead them to be dumb.
    You said it . And you are a church goer... Good lord...

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