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    Is this the same Quinnipiac poll that has Biden up +13 in Florida? Keep believing these polls.
    I guess this is the only play you guys have. Deny reality.

    Between Trump and Desantis botch jobs handling the pandemic, do you find these numbers shocking? People are dying on their watch.

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    Is this the same Quinnipiac poll that has Biden up +13 in Florida? Keep believing these polls.

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    Always give Republicans +10 on any poll in Florida since they do such a good job with mail in voters.

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    Ok cool.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6841.html

    Spin away on how no one should take (Insert pollsters not to be taken seriously from this list)


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    Ok cool.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6841.html

    Spin away on how no one should take (Insert pollsters not to be taken seriously from this list)


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    I guess this is the only play you guys have. Deny reality.

    Between Trump and Desantis botch jobs handling the pandemic, do you find these numbers shocking? People are dying on their watch.
    They ignore the fact that polls from 4 years ago never showed as wide a margin as the polls are showing now.

    Quinnipac conducted a poll just days before the election in 2016 that had Clinton winning Florida by a point, instead she lost by 1.25%, a 2.25% deviation (well within the margin of error, a poll conducted showing a 1% margin is basically a coin flip). If a pollster that was only off by 2.25% 4 years ago is showing Biden up by 13 points that’s not a good thing for Trump .

    The only state in 2016 where the polling was way outside the margin of error was Wisconsin. The narrative that the polls were way off is blown out of proportion. The polls conducted in Michigan and Pennsylvania leading up to the election showed a tightening race.

    IMO the race is going to tighten up between now and Election Day but the polling right now shows Biden up by a much larger margin than Shillary was ever up by.

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    the polls arent necessarily based on registrations, its likely voters.

    doesnt mean they got it right, but i dont know if that is the correct criticism

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    Ah yes, the good old BUT THERE ARE MORE DEMOCRATS POLLED.

    Except if you want to tossed that out and go with the independents instead, Trump is losing them

    independents back Biden 48 - 32 percent,
    https://poll.qu.edu/florida/release-...ReleaseID=3668

    Anymore questions?

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    They ignore the fact that polls from 4 years ago never showed as wide a margin as the polls are showing now.
    Same time frame 2016

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    the polls arent necessarily based on registrations, its likely voters.

    doesnt mean they got it right, but i dont know if that is the correct criticism
    I don’t know how to quote just a single tweet. I was just trying to post the second tweet with Florida polls from 2016.

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    Three Fox News polls also came out today showing Sleepy Joe up 11, 13 and 9 points and PA, MN and MI respectively

    All these polls are probably bull though, I’m sure that’s why Trump just replaced his campaign manager.

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    Three Fox News polls also came out today showing Sleepy Joe up 11, 13 and 9 points and PA, MN and MI respectively

    All these polls are probably bull though, I’m sure that’s why Trump just replaced his campaign manager.
    suppression polls meant to give democrat voters a false sense of security, decreasing the urgency to go out and vote

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    Same time frame 2016
    Yeah didn’t realize there were ever polls that had Shillary up 10+ points in Florida, my mistake on that.

    Keep in mind, Hillary’s campaign floundered in the months that followed those polls. Probably wasn’t up by 10 points, but was probably up in Florida when those polls were taken.

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    I guess this is the only play you guys have. Deny reality.

    Between Trump and Desantis botch jobs handling the pandemic, do you find these numbers shocking? People are dying on their watch.
    Oh, I'm only one person living in the "epicenter" of the pandemic, talking to people here, seeing bumper stickers and yard signs. Who has kids going to college in other areas of said states, who follows closely the happenings in the middle of the Democratic stronghold in the state. But you go ahead, and believe in that 13 point lead.

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    I don’t know how to quote just a single tweet. I was just trying to post the second tweet with Florida polls from 2016.
    muh 2016

    keep fighting the last fight.

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    That is the base forecast.



    Here is a blue wave, with Biden taking the tossups.





    Again, worst case Trump loses the leans, Texas included:


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    suppression polls meant to give democrat voters a false sense of security, decreasing the urgency to go out and vote
    If you don't take polls, I can't be down by a wide margin!

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    Oh, I'm only one person living in the "epicenter" of the pandemic, talking to people here, seeing bumper stickers and yard signs. Who has kids going to college in other areas of said states, who follows closely the happenings in the middle of the Democratic stronghold in the state. But you go ahead, and believe in that 13 point lead.
    Its just a poll. A Snapchat in time so relax.

    There isn’t a conspiracy or fake polls. If it bothers you that Biden is leading in your home state, don’t worry, have it.

    Trump is still trailing in the 3 states he won in 16 to win it. He’s already completely lost Michigan.

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    Its just a poll. A Snapchat in time so relax.

    There isn’t a conspiracy or fake polls. If it bothers you that Biden is leading in your home state, don’t worry, have it.

    Trump is still trailing in the 3 states he won in 16 to win it. He’s already completely lost Michigan.
    Vintage 2016 Reck. Will you “head back upstairs” again if your boy loses?

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    Vintage 2016 Reck. Will you “head back upstairs” again if your boy loses?
    The problem with the BuT tHE POlls aRE wrRONg LikE IN 2016 crowd is that they think Biden is as bad as Hillary. He’s not.

    Biden is cleaning Trump’s clock in the group he won in 2016.

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    tbh, don't remember the Trump s complaining about the 2018 polls?

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    tbh, don't remember the Trump s complaining about the 2018 polls?
    Trump wasn't on the ballot, officially. I would guess he figured prominently in a lot of peoples minds when they did vote.

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    lol why not show the last polls before the election? disingenuous piece of is why



    Every poll within MoE

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    I don’t know how to quote just a single tweet. I was just trying to post the second tweet with Florida polls from 2016.
    1) those weren't Florida polls, they were national
    2) they are cherry picked. Firstie Feather is a dishonest piece of like you. Actual national polls from "this time" in 2016:


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    Yeah didn’t realize there were ever polls that had Shillary up 10+ points in Florida, my mistake on that.

    Keep in mind, Hillary’s campaign floundered in the months that followed those polls. Probably wasn’t up by 10 points, but was probably up in Florida when those polls were taken.
    Because there weren't. You got fed some fake news by TSA and anonymous twitter

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