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    Because there weren't. You got fed some fake news by TSA and anonymous twitter
    Yup. Stupid of me to believe him, I didn’t think there were ever polls showing her winning Florida by that much, I remembered all of them being within the margin of error.

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    Quinnipiac Florida polls from "this time" in 2016 were Trump +3 and Clinton +1. Both ended up within final MoE


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    Hillary was hurt by Comey violating FBI protocol with a much-publicized national TV announcement that Hillary would not be indicted AND went on to trash her, when FBI protocol was "no indicment? then no comment"

    Pootin had his little s at wikileaks dribbling out weekly from Dem emails stolen by Pootin, which the press concentrated on, denying Hillary any traction in her campaign.

    ST Trash fellators trying to say 2020 will be a repeat of 2016 are, have always been, ing stupid.

    "observers" expect Trash's defense attorney Barr will drop a Russia-gate bomb as October surprise.

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    lol why not show the last polls before the election? disingenuous piece of is why



    Every poll within MoE
    Why not show the last polls before the election? Because that wasn't the time frame Reck was talking about.

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    1) those weren't Florida polls, they were national
    2) they are cherry picked. Firstie Feather is a dishonest piece of like you. Actual national polls from "this time" in 2016:

    I just checked and you are correct. They were national. My mistake for not checking first.

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    damn

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    1) those weren't Florida polls, they were national
    2) they are cherry picked. Firstie Feather is a dishonest piece of like you. Actual national polls from "this time" in 2016:

    Lying by omission is pretty much his MO. Mostly because that is the same way his sources lie.

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    Hillary was hurt by Comey violating FBI protocol with a much-publicized national TV announcement that Hillary would not be indicted AND went on to trash her, when FBI protocol was "no indicment? then no comment"

    Pootin had his little s at wikileaks dribbling out weekly from Dem emails stolen by Pootin, which the press concentrated on, denying Hillary any traction in her campaign.

    ST Trash fellators trying to say 2020 will be a repeat of 2016 are, have always been, ing stupid.

    "observers" expect Trash's defense attorney Barr will drop a Russia-gate bomb as October surprise.
    I think what a lot of Republicans overlook is that Putin's real main goal is not to specifically help them, but rather to sow discord and weaken the US. If helping Democrats furthers that goal, they can, and have done that. The ones that aren't stupid enough to buy into the Trump line of "its all fake" have looked the other way.

    You know if any outside country had been helping Democrats they would be screaming bloody murder.

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    Interesting thread. Biden is beating Trump in the money train as well.

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    Lying by omission is pretty much his MO. Mostly because that is the same way his sources lie.
    I didn't lie by omission and I don't lie by omission, I posted something that wasn't accurate and admitted it. I've seen you do the same, not a big deal.

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    I think what a lot of Republicans overlook is that Putin's real main goal is not to specifically help them, but rather to sow discord and weaken the US. If helping Democrats furthers that goal, they can, and have done that. The ones that aren't stupid enough to buy into the Trump line of "its all fake" have looked the other way.

    You know if any outside country had been helping Democrats they would be screaming bloody murder.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ackfire-233446

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-ukr...2016-election/

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    I didn't lie by omission and I don't lie by omission, I posted something that wasn't accurate and admitted it. I've seen you do the same, not a big deal.
    My bad. It was a simple error on your part. Apologies.

    A lot of the sources you quote do exactly that though. They always leave out some bit of important information in order to present the best possible propaganda. Twitter is a sewer of stuff like that mainly because the medium is structured to do that.

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    enlooper now only up 6 on Gardner after previously having a double digit lead. It’s going to really suck if the Dems throw away the easiest senate gain they have in this election because the DNC preferred a guy who’s under investigation for campaign finance violations over a guy who wants universal healthcare.

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    enlooper now only up 6 on Gardner after previously having a double digit lead. It’s going to really suck if the Dems throw away the easiest senate gain they have in this election because the DNC preferred a guy who’s under investigation for campaign finance violations over a guy who wants universal healthcare.
    To be fair, same poll has Biden up 13 points on Trump.

    If Biden carries the state by such margin, Hickenlooper will no doubt benefit from that. I'm a novice at this but has there ever been such a case where a presidential candidate wins a state by double digits but a senate seat goes the other way entirely?

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    To be fair, same poll has Biden up 13 points on Trump.

    If Biden carries the state by such margin, Hickenlooper will no doubt benefit from that. I'm a novice at this but has there ever been such a case where a presidential candidate wins a state by double digits but a senate seat goes the other way entirely?
    Manchin in WV would be one quick example.

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    Manchin in WV would be one quick example.
    Oh yeah good one. Forgot all about dino Manchin.

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    To be fair, same poll has Biden up 13 points on Trump.

    If Biden carries the state by such margin, Hickenlooper will no doubt benefit from that. I'm a novice at this but has there ever been such a case where a presidential candidate wins a state by double digits but a senate seat goes the other way entirely?
    Susan Collins in 2008.

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    If Biden wins Colorado by double digits it means that senate seat was a lost opportunity to put a progressive in the senate who’d advocate for left wing ideals. I thought the whole point of enlooper was how “electable” he is, that doesn’t jive with “Well Biden will win the state by double digits so enlooper being an unpopular piece of doesn’t matter!”

    This is an example of how the DNCs whole premise “we want left wing ideals as much as the progressives do but progressives don’t win elections!” is disingenuous bull , even in states and districts that are dark blue they fight tooth and nail against whoever the progressive candidate is. The “electability” angle is a red herring people like Chuck Jewmer and Pelosi use as an excuse to keep the Democratic Party as far to the right as possible.

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    If Biden wins Colorado by double digits it means that senate seat was a lost opportunity to put a progressive in the senate who’d advocate for left wing ideals. I thought the whole point of enlooper was how “electable” he is, that doesn’t jive with “Well Biden will win the state by double digits so enlooper being an unpopular piece of doesn’t matter!”

    This is an example of how the DNCs whole premise “we want left wing ideals as much as the progressives do but progressives don’t win elections!” is disingenuous bull , even in states and districts that are dark blue they fight tooth and nail against whoever the progressive candidate is. The “electability” angle is a red herring people like Chuck Jewmer and Pelosi use as an excuse to keep the Democratic Party as far to the right as possible.
    Right now its just 1 poll. We'll see if this is a trend in a couple of weeks, month from now.

    In theory this should be a shoe in for democrats. Gardner won his senate seat on a redwave year. Dean er was in the same boat Gardner is in right now.

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    If Biden wins Colorado by double digits it means that senate seat was a lost opportunity to put a progressive in the senate who’d advocate for left wing ideals. I thought the whole point of enlooper was how “electable” he is, that doesn’t jive with “Well Biden will win the state by double digits so enlooper being an unpopular piece of doesn’t matter!”

    This is an example of how the DNCs whole premise “we want left wing ideals as much as the progressives do but progressives don’t win elections!” is disingenuous bull , even in states and districts that are dark blue they fight tooth and nail against whoever the progressive candidate is. The “electability” angle is a red herring people like Chuck Jewmer and Pelosi use as an excuse to keep the Democratic Party as far to the right as possible.
    This. These people can't age out fast enough IMO.

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    Interesting thread. Biden is beating Trump in the money train as well.
    Republicans tend to make more money than Democrats on average which makes this even more impressive!
    Last edited by Obi Juan Kenobi; 07-29-2020 at 06:12 PM.

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    enlooper now only up 6 on Gardner after previously having a double digit lead. It’s going to really suck if the Dems throw away the easiest senate gain they have in this election because the DNC preferred a guy who’s under investigation for campaign finance violations over a guy who wants universal healthcare.
    Yeah, if 2020 proved anything its that you guys are awesome at winning elections

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    All kidding aside I feel its great that progressives have places like Twitter and spurstalk where they can go to feel relevant. Been a rough year for them tbh

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    sup Aaron, when is old Joe getting thawed for the election, tbh?

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