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Your passive aggressive strawmen help
You wouldn't know good science if it bit you on the ass.
Who you believe doesn't mean
The WHO said not transmissible to humans
The CDC said no masks
The Surgeon General said no masks..
You really are stupid
Your passive aggressive strawmen help
You wouldn't know good science if it bit you on the ass.
lol meltdown
no, it means i didnt have studies bookmarked that i could link for you at that exact moment.
effectiveness of masks (even homemade), generally, to limit transmission of bacterial/viral aerosols https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24229526/
effectiveness of mask mandates during the covid-19 outbreak https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/...iJwBuvgngjOhjI
not directly analogous to a situation when there is actually an ongoing pandemic with millions of known infections, now is itConsider this excerpt regarding the use of even surgical masks during surgery...
DMC tells surgical teams working on his family to skip the masks.
do you think better guidelines are developed after more is learned about the virus?
how many infections did we have when the CDC and surgeon general advised people not to buy masks? what was the reasoning they gave?
i would. im not a scientist by trade, but my undergrad degree was in biochemistry. i'm at least literate enough to be able to recognize good/bad science unless its something way above my head like quantum mechanics, etc
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...ear-masks.html
Man, you lie a lot.
I await your goalpost move.
Will CDC science be good or bad now?
Why should anyone believe you?
he's referring to the earlier guidelines from march
Wear a facemask if you are sick
- If you are sick: You should wear a facemask when you are around other people (e.g., sharing a room or vehicle) and before you enter a healthcare provider’s office. If you are not able to wear a facemask (for example, because it causes trouble breathing), then you should do your best to cover your coughs and sneezes, and people who are caring for you should wear a facemask if they enter your room. Learn what to do if you are sick.
- If you are NOT sick: You do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask). Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200331...revention.html
of course, the context is right there... they wanted to save mask supply for healthcare workers. also was at a time when the virus wasn't so widespread that there were big concerns about large volumes of asymptomatic cases
to be fair, they could have still suggested homemade masks.
March
Science evolved and DMC wants to stay behind.
first of all, "lol you edited, stop spamming f5, etc"
they probably should have recommended cloth masks earlier. i dont deny that.Then you have the CDC not knowing droplets exist, not knowing asymptomatic individuals could exist, not considering cloth face masks, or coverings at all (scarf anyone?) and the left buys it like it makes any sense at all that a premier scientific authority didn't consider what Chinese women all over the world were already doing long before the virus was ever heard from. I don't buy that either. Add the surgeon general to it and suddenly they do a 180 and the left just sings right along like it makes perfect sense.
their rationale for telling people not to go buy masks was sound considering there were PPE shortages early on for those who actually needed it. they also cautioned that wearing masks incorrectly could do more harm than good. that's not wrong. but i do think they should have recommended cloth masks at that time.
i'm glad they changed their guidelines when more information was known to them and they got a better sense of what works and what doesn't
distance helps. more distance is probably better than less distance. too much distance when outside the house for things like grocery shopping is probably impractical.Then you have the distance sans masks... good enough, right? Then you add masks and the same distance, and that's even better. Why not go to 12 feet? 24?
masks help. cloth probably not as good as surgical, but still something.
distance + masks helps more than either alone.
Are you drunk?
Many unclear antecedents in your post. You're kinda talking ro yourself, are you ok?
Issues with this study.
Bold point 1: These surgical team members are presumably not infected with any transmissible virus, so this experiment is really only testing if there's any difference in surgical site infection among healthy mask wearers vs. healthy non-mask wearers. I would venture to guess that a healthy non-masked person won't transmit/shed much of anything, mask or no mask.
Bold point 2: This suggests the study had a fair deal of selective sampling, as was elaborated in the following sentence of the most rigorous test only sampling non-scrubbed mask wearers.
Addition criticism: In a real world social setting, there's too many confounding variable to assess the efficacy of masks due to human behavior variability. Are the subjects wearing them correctly? Are they keeping them on their faces? Do they keep fiddling with it and touching their faces (which could facilitate transmission)?
The simplest experiment you can devise to test if masks work in a vacuum is having subjects cough, talk, and sneeze into a culture while wearing a mask and then wearing no mask and then comparing particle load differences. This study did so and found that viral coronavirus load was significantly reduced.
We detected coronavirus in respiratory droplets and aerosols in 3 of 10 (30%) and 4 of 10 (40%) of the samples collected without face masks, respectively, but did not detect any virus in respiratory droplets or aerosols collected from participants wearing face masks, this difference was significant in aerosols and showed a trend toward reduced detection in respiratory droplets (Table 1b).
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2#Tab2
The pushback against masks is puzzling to me. It's a cheap, non-oppressive way to reduce transmission. Is wearing a mask while you go grab some bait and tackle at Burt's Fishing Hole really that big of a deal?
You're the one that looks unintelligent.
The symptoms and maladies of a virus play out in real time. Scientists have guesses based on previous, related types, but just like with Aids. Aids baffled scientists for decade before they unlocked how it works. Even now new complications are being discovered from over time Covid 19 like permanent heart damage and brain damage.
Not understanding this makes you look daft.
Try different news sources that inform you with facts.
cdc said flu 13 times greater risk of death to school age.
Science evolved and DMC wants to stay behind.
I was right you were wrong.
Lockdowns didn't do anything but cause more problems
LolooolIssues with this study.
Bold point 1: These surgical team members are presumably not infected with any transmissible virus, so this experiment is really only testing if there's any difference in surgical site infection among healthy mask wearers vs. healthy non-mask wearers. I would venture to guess that a healthy non-masked person won't transmit/shed much of anything, mask or no mask.
Bold point 2: This suggests the study had a fair deal of selective sampling, as was elaborated in the following sentence of the most rigorous test only sampling non-scrubbed mask wearers.
Addition criticism: In a real world social setting, there's too many confounding variable to assess the efficacy of masks due to human behavior variability. Are the subjects wearing them correctly? Are they keeping them on their faces? Do they keep fiddling with it and touching their faces (which could facilitate transmission)?
The simplest experiment you can devise to test if masks work in a vacuum is having subjects cough, talk, and sneeze into a culture while wearing a mask and then wearing no mask and then comparing particle load differences. This study did so and found that viral coronavirus load was significantly reduced.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2#Tab2
The pushback against masks is puzzling to me. It's a cheap, non-oppressive way to reduce transmission. Is wearing a mask while you go grab some bait and tackle at Burt's Fishing Hole really that big of a deal?
Your math
Nordic countries say no masks.
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Where's the US on the chart?
Not in the EU. Learn some ing first grade geography.
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Bwahahahahhahahahah
Texas just gave death counts today that have fatalities non test confirmed as covid from......
MARCH
BwahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaHHHHhHHH
math wizards ignoring this but about to tell you case increase caused this daily death total. LIoooo
Raw data loololoolIllolll
Pretty easy to diagnose a Covid case when their lungs are filled ground glass opacity. But I'm sure it was death by brisket or a game of Texas hangman gone wrong, right?
An oversight - my apologies.
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