Russia wins again. Sputnik V vaccine approved. Putin vaccinates his own daughters

[TimDunkem]

So...ducks is RKelly?

ducks wouldn't like the comparison. Not because of the pee and minors thing, but because R.Kelly is black

[pgardn]

Give me a ing break. Every time we get a candidate for president who calls out BigPharma and says we need single payer healthcare, every mainstream media outlet says the candidate is a radical who’s unelectable. Being in the tank for companies like Purdue Pharma is a bipartisan problem, there’s no way to “vote” the influence of BigPharma out of office.

It’s also not like CNN or MSNBC have gone to great lengths to cover Purdue Pharma. You get a few casual references to the “opioid epidemic” without any mention that it was caused by an American drug company making FDA-sponsored misrepresentations about its drugs being non-addictive.

Get off the high horse of American exceptionalism.

This is what I fckn cant stand.
This is about voting, not about how good are bad we are.
You separate yourself and others from our government, thats a total cop out.

Become a politician yourself, work for one, or do something as a citizen. This BS idea concerning fcked and unfkable is a total tap out by US citizens.
Big Corp has us by the balls and there is nothing we can do. BS. We have in the past and we can do it again. All politicians must be a slave to big corp because the American people listen to Adverts and go with the money. Then you know what, we deserve what we get. You found out about individual cases of wrong doing and it stops there. You know and are helpless.

We are helpless simply because its not bad enough to have the will to act on it.

[Will Hunting]

This is what I fckn cant stand.
This is about voting, not about how good are bad we are.
You separate yourself and others from our government, thats a total cop out.

Become a politician yourself, work for one, or do something as a citizen. This BS idea concerning fcked and unfkable is a total tap out by US citizens.
Big Corp has us by the balls and there is nothing we can do. BS. We have in the past and we can do it again. All politicians must be a slave to big corp because the American people listen to Adverts and go with the money. Then you know what, we deserve what we get. You found out about individual cases of wrong doing and it stops there. You know and are helpless.

We are helpless simply because its not bad enough to have the will to act on it.

So what should I do to fix the problem? Be specific.

[Trainwreck2100]

This is what I fckn cant stand.
This is about voting, not about how good are bad we are.
You separate yourself and others from our government, thats a total cop out.

Become a politician yourself, work for one, or do something as a citizen. This BS idea concerning fcked and unfkable is a total tap out by US citizens.
Big Corp has us by the balls and there is nothing we can do. BS. We have in the past and we can do it again. All politicians must be a slave to big corp because the American people listen to Adverts and go with the money. Then you know what, we deserve what we get. You found out about individual cases of wrong doing and it stops there. You know and are helpless.

We are helpless simply because its not bad enough to have the will to act on it.

So long as citizens united is a thing there is all we can do.

[TimDunkem]

So long as citizens united is a thing there is all we can do.

Truth sadly.

[boutons_deux]

So long as citizens united is a thing there is all we can do.

citizens are powerless, their votes a meaningless for getting good done

the oligarchy can always and will, eg, use C-U to buy Congresspeople that will always block Medicare-for-all, block $15 Fed minimum

The Dem establishment is against MfA.

[RandomGuy]

I don’t think so but who knows.

Trump will be talking this up at conferences and tweets and using it to "prove" that COVID danger is over to his cult.

This bolsters Trumps position. Given Russian government's obvious preference and efforts towards helping their stooge keep destroying the US and western liberal democracy... one has to wonder "why now, why on so thinly tested a medicine?"

They may have other reasons, but I give it less than 24 hours before this is dominates Trumps talking/tweeting.

[RandomGuy]

So what should I do to fix the problem? Be specific.

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[pgardn]

Donald fn Trump won the presidential election in 2016 most impressively AGAINST a huge amount of Republican money.

Anyone care to explain this?

The red team candidate hit on something and I think part of it is exactly what he had to go up against.
The entrenched big money.
How?

This was the most impressive part of his campaign, beating the entrenched Republicans.

[pgardn]

So long as citizens united is a thing there is all we can do.

That can be amended or counter acted
So can the number of justices on the Supreme Court.

Look at the "creative" ways Trump is trying to get around the Congress.
Takes balls and a great deal of willingness.... not strong enough... unyielding determination.
This can be very dangerous but we are at a time it seems that is ripe for big steps.

Although I personally hope Joe just works on fixing the damage already inflicted.

[pgardn]

So what should I do to fix the problem? Be specific.

Exactly what RG and at higher levels, rmt do.
Start working at local levels and then when you see something you really believe in, hit the phones or knock on doors.
Or run for a school board position yourself and then move to city government or state legislature.
You had a very strong position for one blue candidate, cant remember who, work all out for that guy in your spare time.

Point is...
We elected Donald fn Trump, anything is possible. He showed us.

[Splits]

[SnakeBoy]

So what should I do to fix the problem? Be specific.

Devote your time and money to Biden/Harris. You must fight for change. Fight for Biden/Harris.

[Will Hunting]

Point is...
We elected Donald fn Trump, anything is possible. He showed us.

The premise you're implying that "If Trump can do it then so can anyone" can't actually be serious. Trump showed us that a billionaire can become president by self funding his campaign and then getting major party support by adopting a generic conservative platform of increased defense spending, cutting taxes for the rich, gutting safety nets, and trying to people on healthcare. Your arguments ITT have amounted to little beyond feel good gibberish like "Anything is possible if you set your mind to it!" that I'd expect to hear in a PBS program meant for 8 year olds.

[pgardn]

Devote your time and money to Biden/Harris. You must fight for change. Fight for Biden/Harris.

that “fight” is already over

He can sit down and have a beer on election night

[Will Hunting]

Devote your time and money to Biden/Harris. You must fight for change. Fight for Biden/Harris.

Not sure who that comment is supposed to be making fun of, but my entire point ITT is that when a Biden/Kamala ticket is supposed to be the "progressive" ticket, it's a problem that can't be solved by me knocking on doors or phone banking

[pgardn]

The premise you're implying that "If Trump can do it then so can anyone" can't actually be serious. Trump showed us that a billionaire can become president by self funding his campaign and then getting major party support by adopting a generic conservative platform of increased defense spending, cutting taxes for the rich, gutting safety nets, and trying to people on healthcare. Your arguments ITT have amounted to little beyond feel good gibberish like "Anything is possible if you set your mind to it!" that I'd expect to hear in a PBS program meant for 8 year olds.

he spent much less money than the other candidates got from the party.
don’t give me this
he got himself in as an entertainer.

and then he said the right things to the right people if you can’t see that you were lost

he even made the pussy comment and still won, that takes more than money that takes the right message

Now you tell me who the eighth grader is

[pgardn]

And of course Bloomberg it’s just lost in the fog?

[pgardn]

Not sure who that comment is supposed to be making fun of, but my entire point ITT is that when a Biden/Kamala ticket is supposed to be the "progressive" ticket, it's a problem that can't be solved by me knocking on doors or phone banking

yes it’s always too big for every individual.
keep that thinking.

[Will Hunting]

he spent much less money than the other candidates got from the party.
don’t give me this
he got himself in as an entertainer.

and then he said the right things to the right people if you can’t see that you were lost

he even made the pussy comment and still won, that takes more than money that takes the right message

Now you tell me who the eighth grader is

he spent $66 million of his own money on the 2016 campaign. If you think that makes him some kind of populist underdog story then I don't know what to say.

He said the right things to the right people while he had oligarch support because he promised to cut their taxes and take away the Obamacare they were subsidizing. If he ran on some kind of populist platform advocating single payer healthcare and a UBI, he'd have never made it out of the Republican primary and you're being dishonest if you claim otherwise. By no stretch of the imagination did he take on corporate America, and the essence of what you're arguing is that Donald Trump somehow proves that a presidential candidate taking on the corporate establishment and winning is possible.

He got himself in as a rich oligarch masquerading as a populist working class advocate. It's the same formula every Republican president since Reagan has used. I'm legitimately mystified as to why you think a billionaire charleton getting elected to office by claiming trickle down economics would strengthen the middle class somehow clears the path for a populist to get elected advocating for single payer healthcare.

[pgardn]

Will H

I agree with a ton of what you state politically.
But it is going to be someone our age who changes the democratic party.
The old entrenched people will die.

And after I have seen what the red team is now, I am blue unless someone can think of a way to start a viable 3rd party. So for me this means changing the blue team, because the red team has totally lost its way. The hard work, integrity, nose to the grind stone, rely on yourself, appeal for me has totally exited the red team. Tax breaks, I can sit on my ass and make money.... red team must go.

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... meaningless words. Too hopeful.

[pgardn]

he spent $66 million of his own money on the 2016 campaign. If you think that makes him some kind of populist underdog story then I don't know what to say.

He said the right things to the right people while he had oligarch support because he promised to cut their taxes and take away the Obamacare they were subsidizing. If he ran on some kind of populist platform advocating single payer healthcare and a UBI, he'd have never made it out of the Republican primary and you're being dishonest if you claim otherwise. By no stretch of the imagination did he take on corporate America, and the essence of what you're arguing is that Donald Trump somehow proves that a presidential candidate taking on the corporate establishment and winning is possible.

He got himself in as a rich oligarch masquerading as a populist working class advocate. It's the same formula every Republican president since Reagan has used. I'm legitimately mystified as to why you think a billionaire charleton getting elected to office by claiming trickle down economics would strengthen the middle class somehow clears the path for a populist to get elected advocating for single payer healthcare.

It is not even close to the same formula imo. He alienated himself from the RICH Republican hierarchy early on. The Republican party tried to get rid of him in so many ways.
He made divisiveness work for him. He never stated the party needed to grow with the changing demographics like the others, and yes they tried, especially the Bush brothers. The others were NOT divisive populists.

Trump as CLEARLY taken advantage of white fear. Unabashed straightforward. The other Rs did not come close to that.
Trump has made incredulous attempts to take over the Justice system. Nixon tried this and his party revolted.
This is a totally different beast.

[RandomGuy]

Donald fn Trump won the presidential election in 2016 most impressively AGAINST a huge amount of Republican money.

Anyone care to explain this?

Trump stumbled blindly into the Truth. The core of the Republican party did not give a single about the principles of the party.

What they really care about is hatred of the left.

Not truth, not God, not morals, not fiscal responsibility, not personal responsibility, but naked hatred of the other.

You can have all the fancy ass bull platform statements you want to paper over some intellectually vacuous facade over that hatred, but it is the single unifying issue for the bulk of the fascist party.

and make no mistake, that fascist streak that has always been there... is right up front on display.

[SnakeBoy]

Not sure who that comment is supposed to be making fun of, but my entire point ITT is that when a Biden/Kamala ticket is supposed to be the "progressive" ticket, it's a problem that can't be solved by me knocking on doors or phone banking

Seriously?

Fight for Change
Fight for Biden/Harris

C'mon man that is funny

[SpursforSix]

Trump stumbled blindly into the Truth. The core of the Republican party did not give a single about the principles of the party.

What they really care about is hatred of the left.

Not truth, not God, not morals, not fiscal responsibility, not personal responsibility, but naked hatred of the other.

You can have all the fancy ass bull platform statements you want to paper over some intellectually vacuous facade over that hatred, but it is the single unifying issue for the bulk of the fascist party.

and make no mistake, that fascist streak that has always been there... is right up front on display.