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    It fine to call everyone tinhat, but what's the straight version? Why do you think Trump was pushing so hard for USPS reform/reorganization?

    Can you see any possible problems with doing so in an election year in which there is also a deadly pandemic?

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    KarrinS rushing to post a tweet that validates his insecure opinions despite the fact that it literally contains no information of substance.

    Imagine having such a low self esteem.
    what exactly did that retweet accomplish

    "Hey, guess what, ing MOLLIE has spoken, and she says the post office 'conspiracy theory' is a farce. Checkmate, liberals!"

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    and you believe the guy who bankrupted casinos is the guy to fix the usps?


    hahahahahaha!
    USPS is fine. It isn't a business, it is public good, and we need to stop pretending it is a business.

    Conservatives have essentially stabbed it in the back, forcing some hefty pension funding restrictions on it that no other en y private or corporate really has, with the sole purpose of driving it out of comission, privatizing it, and swooping in like ing vultures.

    Corrupt pieces of in the Trump party are drooling over the prospect of looting what amounts to a public utility.

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    It fine to call everyone tinhat, but what's the straight version? Why do you think Trump was pushing so hard for USPS reform/reorganization?

    Can you see any possible problems with doing so in an election year in which there is also a deadly pandemic?
    DarrinS: if you have any notion as to how removing, dismantling or destroying 670 sorting machines improves USPS efficiency/profitability, I'm all ears.

    No one ITT has ventured any explanation as to how the reported changes make the USPS better.

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    I think he and other Republicans are trying to selectively influence the ease of voting in a way that favors him and other Republicans.
    So they are tampering with the election process?

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    So they are tampering with the election process?
    What do you think is going on here?

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    USPS is fine. It isn't a business, it is public good, and we need to stop pretending it is a business.

    Conservatives have essentially stabbed it in the back, forcing some hefty pension funding restrictions on it that no other en y private or corporate really has, with the sole purpose of driving it out of comission, privatizing it, and swooping in like ing vultures.

    Corrupt pieces of in the Trump party are drooling over the prospect of looting what amounts to a public utility.
    I probably needs to be privatized. This isn't the ing pony express era. Where's the federally run telephone system or internet system?

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    So they are tampering with the election process?
    I'm not really interested in a semantic argument, I've spelled out pretty plainly what I believe is happening.

    Would you take issue if I said he was trying to steal the election? What would be your response? Hypothetically.

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    What do you think is going on here?
    I asked a question.

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    I asked a question.
    Not to me.

    Question pending: keep tap dancing.

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    I'm not really interested in a semantic argument, I've spelled out pretty plainly what I believe is happening.

    Would you take issue if I said he was trying to steal the election? What would be your response? Hypothetically.
    I wouldn't take issue. I would though understand that "trying to steal the election" isn't a unique conspiracy theory from the right.

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    Not to me.

    Question pending: keep tap dancing.
    Exactly. Keep stepping

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    ^^^ demands answers, ducks questions

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    ^^^ demands answers, ducks questions
    Not from you

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    I probably needs to be privatized. This isn't the ing pony express era. Where's the federally run telephone system or internet system?
    The pony express was a private enterprise that was not a federally sponsored service at all, while the USPS has been a government-run service that goes back to our founding fathers. Benjamin Franklin was the first post master general. Your reference to the "pony express era" makes absolutely no sense in the context if everything else you said.

    Regardless, the USPS would also struggle as a private enterprise if it was forced by a congressional mandate to charge flat rates that were agnostic to location.

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    I wouldn't take issue. I would though understand that "trying to steal the election" isn't a unique conspiracy theory from the right.
    I didn't say it was.

    But enthusiastically supporting the current Presidential in bent who has repeatedly expressed such a conspiracy theory is unique to the right. Until that changes, any indignance from the right over liberals who believe such a thing is pretty hollow. But that's not new either.

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    The pony express was a private enterprise that was not a federally sponsored service at all, while the USPS has been a government-run service that goes back to our founding fathers. Benjamin Franklin was the first post master general. Your reference to the "pony express era" makes absolutely no sense in the context if everything else you said.

    Regardless, the USPS would also struggle as a private enterprise if it was forced by a congressional mandate to charge flat rates that were agnostic to location.
    Conservatives love government intrusion on business when it helps their big businesses of choice.

    Call me old fashioned but I still enjoy sending and receiving birthday cards, mother's day cards, and other cards through my very own box in front of the house. I don't get that excited about the idea of driving to the UPS store so I can spend $4 to send a mother's day card.

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    There's over 500 rural communities in this country without direct access to a pharmacy, and virtually all of those communities get prescriptions via the USPS. If you handed that service over to private enterprise, it would gouge the out of those rural communities knowing they have no alternative way to get their prescriptions.

    Amazon also relies on USPS to deliver to rural areas. Take that away and buying on Amazon becomes a lot more expensive for rural Americans, not a ing chance Amazon continues giving all of its prime members free shipping if it doesn't have a public service that helps it deliver to rural areas.

    Part of me thinks 'em, if these inbred rural mutants are too stupid to help themselves and support a billionaire charleton who's policies will only make it harder for rural Americans to survive, why should I care about helping them?

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    KarrinS rushing to post a tweet that validates his insecure opinions despite the fact that it literally contains no information of substance.

    Imagine having such a low self esteem.
    ing Trump said he was doing it and Karrin still wants to call it a conspiracy theory.

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    There's over 500 rural communities in this country without direct access to a pharmacy, and virtually all of those communities get prescriptions via the USPS. If you handed that service over to private enterprise, it would gouge the out of those rural communities knowing they have no alternative way to get their prescriptions.

    Amazon also relies on USPS to deliver to rural areas. Take that away and buying on Amazon becomes a lot more expensive for rural Americans, not a ing chance Amazon continues giving all of its prime members free shipping if it doesn't have a public service that helps it deliver to rural areas.

    Part of me thinks 'em, if these inbred rural mutants are too stupid to help themselves and support a billionaire charleton who's policies will only make it harder for rural Americans to survive, why should I care about helping them?
    Agreed with the last paragraph, though I'd say I fully and not partly think them. WTF do the Democrats get out of trying to help rural populations here? It would be funny to pull out of rural areas so people in cities no longer have to subsidize these people who will still hate them anyways.

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    Agreed with the last paragraph, though I'd say I fully and not partly think them. WTF do the Democrats get out of trying to help rural populations here? It would be funny to pull out of rural areas so people in cities no longer have to subsidize these people who will still hate them anyways.
    I say partially in this particular context because the post office employs close to 1,000,000 people and a big chunk of them are without work if you hand the USPS over to le happy merchant. I also think that even if it happens, the rural bum s will blame Democrats for it, so there isn't much of a gain.

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    I say partially in this particular context because the post office employs close to 1,000,000 people and a big chunk of them are without work if you hand the USPS over to le happy merchant. I also think that even if it happens, the rural bum s will blame Democrats for it, so there isn't much of a gain.
    I didn't say sell the USPS off. Just only operate USPS for population centers. The rural postal workers can bootstrap too since rural communities don't appreciate being subsidized by cities. Rural America can be served by the new Le Happy Merchant Parcel Service that swoops in once the USPS abandons these unprofitable areas. It's win/win.

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    Outside of a rogue voter here and there, can Republicans show me any recent instance where the Democratic Party, a Democratic politiian/candidate, his/her staff, or a company hired by him/her engaged in voter fraud?

    As for Republicans -
    In 2018, there was North Carolina District 9, where they had to conduct another election because the Republican candidate was involved with illegal ballot harvesting
    In 2012, the RNC got in trouble for using Strategic Allied Consulting, a Conservative voter registration firm where 3 employees eventually pled guilty to destroying voter registration forms
    In 2019, Kansas GOP Rep Steve Watkins used a UPS Store as his address in order to vote in a municipal election

    This only includes cases that resulted in charges and/or have been admitted. There's plenty of other instances, like in 2018 when Brian Kemp oversaw his own election and had 52,000 voter registration forms (primarily African Americans) trashed because of ticky tacky information discrepancies.

    The constant crying about voter fraud by conservatives is a blatant case of projecting. Conservatives assume Democrats are looking to cheat left and right because cheating whenever they can is what conservatives do to win elections.

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    "rural communities don't appreciate being subsidized by cities."

    what? link

    ranchers sure love grazing public lands for free or almost free



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