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    or are you just starting from the default position that citizens united was good, and as you learn about it, you end up having to convince yourself that it is good?
    Seeing that he just looked it up on wikipedia for the first time and cited a basic overview of the case presented and not the actual SCOTUS ruling, I'll go with this^

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    I'm talking about fraudulent transfer, not theft or conversion. Every state has a uniform fraudulent transfer statute that restricts how people who owe creditors money are allowed to spend/transfer assets. I guess those are all uncons utional.
    I haven't advocated for fraud. You've went loony.

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    BTW, Hillary cried so much about the Citizens United case that I'm thinking it has to be about the best decision in SCOTUS history.

    That was seriously like her number one beef. And then you read about how people we're blocked from airing her within X days of voting and you're like, yea that's some evil . No wonder that psycopath was so ing butthurt.

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    I haven't advocated for fraud. You've went loony.
    Fraudulent transfer isn't fraud. Do you know what fraudulent transfer is?

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    or are you just starting from the default position that citizens united was good, and as you learn about it, you end up having to convince yourself that it is good?
    BTW, Hillary cried so much about the Citizens United case that I'm thinking it has to be about the best decision in SCOTUS history.
    yep

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    You don't want to talk about how you're #AlwaysWithHer on this?

    I guess you feel some shame. It happens.

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    Seeing that he just looked it up on wikipedia for the first time and cited a basic overview of the case presented and not the actual SCOTUS ruling, I'll go with this^
    My fault for starting out in the weeds (sort of). Decided to go see what really has you and Lite so bothered.
    Wouldn't ya know, it's some #AlwaysWithHer sh**.


    Chris They're still pretty butthurt about Citizens United slapping Hillary.

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    My fault for starting out in the weeds (sort of). Decided to go see what really has you and Lite so bothered.
    Wouldn't ya know, it's some #AlwaysWithHer sh**.


    Chris They're still pretty butthurt about Citizens United slapping Hillary.
    all your principles about judicial activism, cons utionalism, gray areas when re: corporate campaign financing went out the window because of muh hillary

    hillary derangement syndrome

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    all your principles about judicial activism, cons utionalism, gray areas when re: corporate campaign financing went out the window because of muh hillary

    hillary derangement syndrome
    That's re ed. I said from the start that I wasn't against the caps from the very outset and I never went against it (when will brought it up). And you didn't even say it was not about that but expenditures til later, so not sure where the disconnect is and it really doesn't even matter now; but your dishonest assessment, Lite. You don't get to say I'm flip flopping when I said all along I'm for free speech and not having govt. tell people how to spend their money.

    Bringing it back to the matter at hand, tell us why you're so butthurt about Citizens United slapping Hillary.

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    My fault for starting out in the weeds (sort of). Decided to go see what really has you and Lite so bothered.
    Wouldn't ya know, it's some #AlwaysWithHer sh**.


    Chris They're still pretty butthurt about Citizens United slapping Hillary.
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    Can you imagine needing to hang on so tightly to that?
    Brainwashing works. Lite is a lawyer and should know better. Will strikes me as pretty smart and should know better.
    I understand it with these lesser than gimpy chumpettes. Soy boys can't be held to a high account.

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    Can you imagine needing to hang on so tightly to that?
    Brainwashing works. Lite is a lawyer and should know better. Will strikes me as pretty smart and should know better.
    I understand it with these lesser than gimpy chumpettes. Soy boys can't be held to a high account.
    It's pride, and admitting you're wrong. Something neither are capable of. Also admitting to yourself that Media and the DNC duped you for so many years. A religous person can easily overcome things like pride and cynicism, but we know both are lacking faith along with integrity. You can only pray they overcome their obstacles tbh

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    The Right Wire Report highlights:

    • Biden refuses to say he will not support packing the courts or abolishing the Filibuster rule. Even VP Harris could not spin that for Joe positively.
    • Biden accuses Trump of being Unpresidential while simultaneously telling the President of the United States to “shut up man’, You are the worse president the United States ever had”. You are a clown”, You are a liar’, “You are racist,” and “Putin’s Puppy.”
    • Biden pushed conspiracy theories all night, none of which have been do ented as verified: Russian Bounties on U.S. Soldiers, Charlottesville good people hoax, Trump did not push Xi to investigate what happened with the virus, Antifa does not exist as an organization, Trump disparaged military, and Hunter Biden’s financial issues raised in Senate report have all been debunked somehow. Read specifics here.
    • Joe Biden showed up to debate for 90 minutes, and while he did have a few gaffes, he did not exhibit alarming signs of cognitive decline as he has been showing on the campaign trail.
    • Biden would shut down the economy again as a response to the pandemic, raise taxes by $4 trillion and increase regulations, and support a mask mandate. Trump would not do all of the above.
    • Biden does not trust the vaccine the Trump administration delivers. Trump has developed Operation Warp Speed and worked with five major drug companies and scientists to deliver a safe vaccine alternative asap. His administration has the military on stand by to provide delivery and support logistics to the states for those who wish to be vaccinated when the vaccine comes online.
    • Biden declares, “I am the Democrat Party Right Now!”
    • Biden does an about-face and denounces Medicare for all, defund the police, and the AOC’s Green Deal. Bernie’s Manifesto? Bueller?
    • Biden confirms no more coal or oil plants in America. Trump reaffirms all of the above, including renewable energy with clean water and air standards.
    • Biden’s Green energy plan will cost trillions and crush the economic engine.
    • Biden will enter U.S.back into the Paris Climate Accords.
    • Biden claimed a 1.4% GDP was leaving Trump a booming economy.
    • Biden did not know the actual number that violent crime dropped under his tenure as Vice President. He stated 15% and 17% when it was 9.7%. Or that prior to falling, the rate went up as high as 20% during their term. By 2018 violent crime rates had fallen dramatically since 2016 and continued to fall during Trump’s term until the Floyd Protests, Black Live Matters, and defund the police. Lawless mobs rioting and Democrat leadership in cities taking law enforcement resources and labeling police as enemies had resulted in huge es in crime.
    • Biden supports Critical Race Theory indoctrination. Wallace “confuses” CRT with sensitivity training, falsely claiming Trump has ended all sensitivity training.

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    That's re ed. I said from the start that I wasn't against the caps from the very outset and I never went against it (when will brought it up). And you didn't even say it was not about that but expenditures til later, so not sure where the disconnect is and it really doesn't even matter now; but your dishonest assessment, Lite. You don't get to say I'm flip flopping when I said all along I'm for free speech and not having govt. tell people how to spend their money.

    Bringing it back to the matter at hand, tell us why you're so butthurt about Citizens United slapping Hillary.
    If we're talking corporate donations, that's gray area. But for individuals, people should not be told by govt. how to spend their money.
    you clearly had reservations about corporate donations, as opposed to individual ones where i acknowledge you never expressed any desire for caps

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    ByeDon should withdraw from the last 2 "debates", refuse to submit himself to crippling, non-stop interruptions, verbal abuse, insults, possible covid10 infection from toxic, super-spreader Trash.

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    you clearly had reservations about corporate donations, as opposed to individual ones where i acknowledge you never expressed any desire for caps
    SMH. Desperately looking for cracks.

    Yea, I don't consider corporations people in the way that Romney and Obama support. But people with Cons utional rights do operate in corporate settings. That layer can theoretically muddy the waters. You're trying to play gotcha for me simply showing restraint. That's just sad.

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    SMH. Desperately looking for cracks.

    Yea, I don't consider corporations people in the way that Romney and Obama support. But people with Cons utional rights do operate in corporate settings. That layer can theoretically muddy the waters. You're trying to play gotcha for me simply showing restraint. That's just sad.
    but this isn't about people within corporations making political contributions, this is the corporation itself doing it. so while the directors and officers of a corporation can individually make campaign contributions (1st amendment)... citizens united determined that the corporate en y itself could be making unlimited political contributions to PACs and whatnot.

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    but this isn't about people within corporations making political contributions, this is the corporation itself doing it. so while the directors and officers of a corporation can individually make campaign contributions (1st amendment)... citizens united determined that the corporate en y itself could be making unlimited political contributions to PACs and whatnot.
    And what do you find wrong about corporations making political contributions?

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    This gonna trigger Chumpettes

    Chris Watch between 4:35-4:45 Solid mockery


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    for months and months on end... TRUMP IS GOING TO DESTROY BIDEN, HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHERE HE IS

    days leading up to the debate... Biden is on the Captain America super soldier serum, and he has a hidden earpiece like the Avengers!

    day of the debate... but but biden is requesting to appear virtually! and he wants breaks every 30 minutes!

    after the debate... biden was wearing a wire! chris wallace stopped letting trump interrupt. SO unfair!

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    for months and months on end... TRUMP IS GOING TO DESTROY BIDEN, HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHERE HE IS

    days leading up to the debate... Biden is on the Captain America super soldier serum, and he has a hidden earpiece like the Avengers!

    day of the debate... but but biden is requesting to appear virtually! and he wants breaks every 30 minutes!

    after the debate... biden was wearing a wire! chris wallace stopped letting trump interrupt. SO unfair!
    All this rant. Pretty much everyone has said it was something of a win for Biden to be alert as he was during the debate and to not get totally crushed.

    Trump knocked Biden to the canvas a few times. But he was able to hang on for a decision that didn't go his way.

    That's performing way above expectations.

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    And what do you find wrong about corporations making political contributions?
    You are such a pathetic little shill. Go cry about big money some more got


    Ps: I'm not going to bother to spell the insult out so you can pretend to understand it

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    for months and months on end... TRUMP IS GOING TO DESTROY BIDEN, HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW WHERE HE IS

    days leading up to the debate... Biden is on the Captain America super soldier serum, and he has a hidden earpiece like the Avengers!

    day of the debate... but but biden is requesting to appear virtually! and he wants breaks every 30 minutes!

    after the debate... biden was wearing a wire! chris wallace stopped letting trump interrupt. SO unfair!

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    Visual Evidence From the First Debate Supports Speculation About Trump Suffering Strokes

    Something was making Trump’s podium shake, which was evident from a shimmy of the microphone.

    As we continued to observe the President, the microphone on his podium continued to oscillate at times and fall still at others.

    Trump was unsteady on his feet and that his podium shook because he was gripping too hard to support himself.

    But, as I reviewed the video, a different pattern emerged —


    5:35 Biden and Trump enter from off stage, equidistant starting points at stage right and left,

    with Biden reaching his podium well before a kinda shambling Trump

    who firmly grasps his podium with both hands when he finally shuffles up to it.

    6:05 Trump’s tiny hands continue to firmly grip both sides of the podium.

    6:16 Joe Biden is organizing his notes and standing without support.

    6:36 The moment Trump starts talking in response to Chris Wallace’s first question, he is gripping the podium with both hands as the microphone begins to shimmy back and forth.

    6;46 Trump releases the podium for just a few seconds to make a gesture with each hand, but then grasps the podium against which then starts shaking again.

    7:00 As Trump eases into his prepared defenses of his Amy Coney Barrett SCOTUS nomination, the shaking subsides.

    10:07 As Joe Biden responds on Trump’s rush to confirm Trumps SCOTUS nominee, Trump launches his first interruption of Biden, to lie about how many Americans have preexisting conditions, and the moment the camera cuts over to Trump. His podium is already shaking as he grips it with both hands.

    10:12 Trump releases his podium to gesture, but the podium starts shaking again, as seen in the shimmy of the microphone, as soon as Trump grabs it again with both of his tiny Hands.

    10:52 Trump gestures with his left hand, as he grasps the podium with his right, causing it to gently shake again.

    12:14 As Trump gestures with his right hand, while grasping the podium only with his left hand, the podium does not shake, but, simultaneously, Trump lists to his right side after having previously remained steadily upright.

    12:35 The instant Trump grasps the podium with his right hand again, the microphone resumes shimmying from the shaking podium. As he releases his right hand to gesture again, the shaking of the podium stops.
    Essential tremor, which Trump might now suffer after previous ischemic episodes, is directly relevant to the current President’s fitness for office.

    the health frailties of Donald John Trump add just one more layer to the enormously tall cake of the current President’s disqualifications.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/10/1/1982320/-Visual-Evidence-From-the-First-Debate-Supports-Speculation-About-Trump-Suffering-Strokes


    https://www.google.com/search?q=Essential+tremor&oq=Essential+tremor&aqs= chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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