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Not sure why that would happen when the GOP just performed as well as it did yesterday.
The 2 party system needs to go away completely. It’s a complete disaster and will only get worse the next 4 years.
How about just abolish the "GOP"/Republican Party altogether and just have the Democratic Party (DNC mainstreamers like Biden/Clintons) and the Progressive Party (i.e. the "squad" and Bernie types), tbh?
Not sure why that would happen when the GOP just performed as well as it did yesterday.
The 2 party system needs to go away completely. It’s a complete disaster and will only get worse the next 4 years.
It should happen, but then a bunch of phony idiots like Ted Cruz would fall off the map.
This too. There's clearly enough brand value on the GOP to make things compe ive still.
No, they can just get a layman's job and/or retire and play golf, tbh.
Also the centrist Dems have no brand value and wouldn’t be able to garner massive support if they were the party that’s furthest to the right. The only reason people put up with a party run by Pelosi/Schumer is because the alternative sucks.
It works in Europe though? the Conservative party partisans in those first-world, high-life longevity nations are the Pelosi/Schumer types, while the Liberal/Labo(u)r party partisans are the Bernie/AOC types.
the winning strategy is to appeal is to emotion, facts and logic and truth no longer matter.
would a progressive party turn out enough? They haven’t in the past.
Turned out pretty well for FDR.
The parties are in the process of being realigned
Realignment isn't a short term process
Realignment isn't a clean process
Realignment is a tbh
4 parties
Way lefts and rights and center lefts and rights
yeah but FDR did everything in his power to avoid identifying with progressivism to not be tagged as a socialist when he was campaigning against Hoover.
I’m definitely not advocating someone identify as a socialist. Sanders doing that was idiotic.
yeah but it sure helped him with college voters lol
In this age of media, and fake news being passed around like it’s gospel, any dem is going to get hammered with radical leftist agenda bull .
bernie is uncompromising, easy to admire And right on most of his platform ideas. But like every other single ing dem, since Bill Clinton who was maybe the best politician of my lifetime, they can’t win with ideas because they get killed with fake narratives.
I had always thought the millennial gen would start to fix all the the boomers on down have caused to ruin this country. This election showed that there are just as many redneck farm kids that want that racist lifestyle too. Someone younger and hipper needs to emerge to energize the decent kids to participate.
i love AOC, she’s amazing. But she’s already been tainted by the rw media that fears her.
btw, watch Iowa be the first state to pass something draconian on abortion to start the ball rolling toward the Supreme Court. Old college roommate is a state rep, and the r’s just took back the state house.
Even George Washington (who was a member of a party) was quoted to be against a party based system. It does a disservice to people who don't wish to vote on entire platforms. What if you disagree with certain party lines/issue stances? What if you like a different set of beliefs? You're screwed in our system if so. And if you stubbornly vote for a 3rd party, all you do is throw away your vote and detract from one or the other party. Perot voters cost the republicans the election in 1992 and 1996 for instance.
92 yes, not 96, Clinton was winning re-election no matter what.
Systems don't just "go away". Like free market systems, political systems react to the market. They don't act on suggestions. When the voter market share demands it, it will happen.
The same is true for most of the things we choose in life. We don't like 100% of the things we choose to accept, but we like it better than the alternative. More alternatives doesn't mean we get more of what we want. It still means the majority wins, and they might be so far from you ideologically that you find it repulsive.
should go away. both will lead us to the slaughter house.
but it will be like this til the bitter end. Both are controlled by special interest groups and the world banking cartel. They are perfectly happy with the current setup
Our founders (although ostricized in this forum) were actualy quite keen to the problems that parties would ultimately cause. They warned against forming these gangs.
The problem is, those eggs are already cracked. They exist and they aren't going anywhere. So the answer is allowing more access by indepedents to the debates. I feel like there should be at least one indepdent candidate and the Libertarian candidate as well. Clinton worked out a deal with the Republicans in the 90's to prevent Ross Perot types from the POTUS debates unless they were polling at 15% or greater.
Maybe after this disaster of an election the people will rise up and demand more options. But I doubt, it. The vaccine comes and people forget about politics, BLM and whatever else occupied their time this year.
The founding fathers hated the two party system so much that they created it and made it next to impossible to get rid of. Kinda sounds like how much the founding fathers ostensibly hated slavery
They didn't like slavery either and deemed it something that needed to be slowly phased out as many were relying on slaves for their livelihood at that time.The founding fathers hated the two party system so much that they created it and made it next to impossible to get rid of. Kinda sounds like how much the founding fathers ostensibly hated slavery
Adams, Washington and Jefferson warned agaisnt parties, just to name a few.
2 party system is how they maintain the "we are a democracy" farce
Good luck trying to change it
And yet it took a civil war to "phase" it out
Perhaps thats needed here.
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