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    Easily explainable when you consider GOP voters that didn’t like Trump, the Lincoln Project type.

    Not even sure why this is some sort of mystery, tbh

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    Easily explainable when you consider GOP voters that didn’t like Trump, the Lincoln Project type.

    Not even sure why this is some sort of mystery, tbh
    I even voted sort of split.

    I hated the demo senator guy (not gonna name him) so I wrote in Krusty The Clown

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    Recount

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    Thom Tillis and Perdue exhibit A and B

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    Easily explainable when you consider GOP voters that didn’t like Trump, the Lincoln Project type.

    Not even sure why this is some sort of mystery, tbh
    plausible, but wasn't trump's approval rating within the gop astronomical?

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    Biden also underperformed everywhere except all the important swing states. Very interesting.

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    Biden also underperformed everywhere except all the important swing states. Very interesting.
    How did he not underperform in the important swing states too (I'm assuming you're using the polls as a measure of overperformance/underperformance)? The polls had him winning Wisconsin by 8-9% and he won it by <1%.

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    plausible, but wasn't trump's approval rating within the gop astronomical?
    Shy anti Trumpsters

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    Shy anti Trumpsters
    the real silent majority

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    Biden also underperformed everywhere except all the important swing states. Very interesting.
    Interesting

    I wonder why they call them swing states.

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    The only big criticism I have of how Biden ran this campaign is that he didn't do enough to help down ballot candidates. The GOP ran constant attack ads about how "A vote for X is a vote for Chuck Schumer" and Biden should have said "Wrong, a vote for X is a vote for me."

    Not trying to take away from everything else though. Biden and his campaign knew this race would be a lot tougher than any of us thought it would, and he did what needed to be done to win. If he let the re s convince him to go after Texas and Florida since the rust belt states are "locked up" according to the polls, he loses.

    What also played a role is that the down ballot candidates were way too invisible and didn't create a brand for themselves beyond just being a down ballot candidate. The Democratic Party also has too much invested in TV advertising and not enough on digital advertising. Mark Kelly spent by far more on digital ads than any other Democratic senate challenger.

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    plausible, but wasn't trump's approval rating within the gop astronomical?
    Most Republicans did vote for Trump. I just think it’s actually ridiculous to think those R that did not, voted a straight D ticket
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    Interesting

    I wonder why they call them swing states.

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    yup definitely lot of republicans for Biden this time

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    Biden also underperformed everywhere except all the important swing states. Very interesting.
    Thats bc they didnt spend money on advertising as much in non swing states and didnt do any canvassing really. Whereas trump sent corona cronies everywhere including clogging highways

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    plausible, but wasn't trump's approval rating within the gop astronomical?
    The GOP has been shrinking relatively the last few years tho iirc. Read an article earlier this year about how Trump converted many of them into democrats

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    How did he not underperform in the important swing states too (I'm assuming you're using the polls as a measure of overperformance/underperformance)? The polls had him winning Wisconsin by 8-9% and he won it by <1%.
    I'm just talking in comparison to Hillary in 2016 and Obama in 2012. Biden hauled in more votes in Wis and Michigan than those two did. And that's with virtually no ground game and relatively weak campaigning.

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    This isn't the article I remember reading but still interesting fact:

    "While the proportion of registered voters who identify as Democrat has hovered around 33% since 1994, Republicans’ share shrunk from 33% that year to 26% in 2017, according to the Pew Research Center."

    https://qz.com/1347030/there-are-few...han-you-think/

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    Interesting

    I wonder why they call them swing states.
    Clever, but not if you were reading between the lines.

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    Ballots with ONLY the presidential vote. That's a possibility

    Speeds up the harvesting process

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    Ballots with ONLY the presidential vote. That's a possibility

    Speeds up the harvesting process

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    the real silent majority
    I actually think this is a thing. Dumps really fed ppl up with his Covid show

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    Ballots with ONLY the presidential vote. That's a possibility

    Speeds up the harvesting process
    That would be totally unethical. They never do such a thing

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    I'm just talking in comparison to Hillary in 2016 and Obama in 2012. Biden hauled in more votes in Wis and Michigan than those two did. And that's with virtually no ground game and relatively weak campaigning.
    I disagree. In Michigan it was with Rashida Tlaib going door to door and driving massive turnout in Detroit, and in Milwaukee you had a big GOTV effort. Biden actually did worse than Hillary in the rural parts of WI/MI but got massive turnout from the population centers.

    Biden used to be referred to as Pennsylvania's 3rd senator and he spent plenty of time there. There were literally thousands of volunteers canvassing throughout PA the weekend before the election. It's no surprise that's the one state where he was actually able to shave votes off Trump's margin across the state, even in rural areas.

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