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    I honestly can't comprehend how people can openly support Trump. I'm not talking about political party loyalty. Trump. There's a long, skid marked laundry list of character flaws -- matched by his actions -- that should upset everyone in one way or another. And yet we have people falling on their swords for this clown.
    Simple. He's a populist.

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    Interesting

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    Journalism by stipulation.

    "Let us just say..."

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    I honestly can't comprehend how people can openly support Trump. I'm not talking about political party loyalty. Trump. There's a long, skid marked laundry list of character flaws -- matched by his actions -- that should upset everyone in one way or another. And yet we have people falling on their swords for this clown.
    cult

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    Interesting


    Remember when you fell for this one?




    Good times

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    Remember when you fell for this one?




    Good times
    tick tock

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    For what?

    Explain in your own words what is going to happen and what will be litigated.
    The only one with seemingly any shot in is PA due to Justice Alito's action to separate voting after 8PM on election to votes before and after. The SC delayed action on this matter before the election. Alito's action was mix it has votes put in a separate area but still counted. Apparently it has something to do with the state legislative body and the courts disagreed on when votes could be received or counted. However, Biden will still get 270 unless another state somehow comes into play so would be very likely irrelevant.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court...ing-pa-ballots (other articles put the figure up to 60,000 so no one knows)

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    Biden President. Not Trump.

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    let’s just say my aunt had balls. Then she’d be my uncle

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    You can take AZ.

    PA alone clinched.

    But fine you can take PA too

    GA + NV already clinched.

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    Biden's lead in GA is now over 10k, so this re ed hypothetical no longer works

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    In heavily Hispanic Starr County, TX in the Rio Grande Valley—which may have the biggest swing toward Trump of any county in the country—turnout was up massively, from 11,700 four years ago to 17,500 this year.

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    You can take AZ.

    PA alone clinched.

    But fine you can take PA too

    GA + NV already clinched.
    Biden can lose Wisconsin, Michigan Arizona , pa still
    Media does not make him president
    Dec 8 the electors vote

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    Biden can lose Wisconsin, Michigan Arizona , pa still
    Media does not make him president
    Dec 8 the electors vote
    Didn’t you declare victory November 8, 2016

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    Didn’t you declare victory November 8, 2016
    He did.

    "iT wAs DifFeReNT!1"

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    I have faith you in, Andy. Come to the most sensible position of Rational Progressivism-Mainstreet Libertarianism, my invention. What's our tenets?

    Rational progressivism.

    - Anti-war
    - Pro-choice
    - Pro-LBGT rights
    - Ellis Island Model for Immigration (which has provably worked)

    - Pro environment (what does this mean? I mean I do my part by recycling and healthy eating, but it should be a personal choice. I'm NOT for extra penalties on civilians for, for example, using extra energy because they set their AC to 68 degrees in a hot Texas summer or drove their car too much because they had to commute to work).
    - Sensible gun regulation. Higher minimum age. Tiered licensing procedure. (What age are you talking about? This still doesn't address the illegal guns shipped up from Latin America)
    - ANTI-Cancel culture and suffocating political correctness.

    Rational progressivism has no interest in exploring the socio-cultural impact of tenuous concepts like "microaggressions" and "patriarchal power dynamics" because they are total bull .

    Mainstreet Libertarianism

    - Is pro deregulation and tax cuts for "mainstreet small businesses" if said deregulation doesn't have any social and environmental consequences. Example. Pete's Barbershop shouldn't have to wade through a labyrinth of bull regulatory red tape that is simply imposed to trigger fines to fill city and county coffers. And a tax cut for Pete's barbershop will actually create an additional job.
    - Is pro regulation for big corporate en ies. Big Oil, Big Tech, Big Pharma all need to be watched like a in' hawk. (Agree on most of these, but I don't want "big oil" to be regulated to the point where gas goes back into the >$3 per gallon range where it was for most of Obama's tenure)
    - Is pro taxing the out Big Corporate and the billionaire class. Trickle down economics is a proven lie. When Big Corporate gets a tax cut, they simply leverage that into stock buybacks or hoarding capital. Individuals in the billionaire and multimillionaire class aren't taxed enough relative to the millionaire and under class. A person making 400K pays the same amount of Federal Taxes as Jeff Bezos. (Not sure what your "multimillionaire" cutoff amount is, but I do agree on the Bezos of the world cheating their taxes is a big problem)
    - Is pro universal health care. Has provably worked in every other country in the world. Stories like your mom's doctor excessively charging for surgeries (because of the symbiotic relationship between health insurance providers and healthcare providers: Doctor overcharges, health insurance raises premiums, more profits for all) would be a thing of the past.

    Feel free to print and pass this out to grow the movement.
    So I can agree on about 75-80% of the items you listed, tbh.

    Bezos and Big Tech are the biggest problem of our time. They cheat their taxes and rake in the billions, perhaps trillions at this point, and don't pass any of the proceeds along to actual consumers or employees, but rather "organizations" and leftist PACs, charities of their choice, etc. The people should choose which charities to donate to, not corporations. I am in the 400K-ish range and don't like when Kamala in the debates targeted me by saying she'd raise taxes on someone making that little -- it's really not a very high number in today's inflated economy. 1 Million I could get behind, but not 400K. And I definitely shouldn't be paying more taxes than Jeff Bezos or Zuckerberg.

    Also, no tariffs. The main thing to protect is the "little guy", i.e., the American consumer. Tariffs do nobody any good because they cause inflation by raising the prices of something like a basic Sterilite container from Walmart made in Taiwan or Malaysia from like $7.99 to $13.99. That is unacceptable. We must FIGHT inflation and raise interest rates.

    Also, it's good you didn't mention anything about raising the federal minimum wage to some astronomical number like $15.00, which I am vehemently against, and anyone who understands the difference between urban vs. rural should be as well. Price floors are TERRIBLE for an economy, and failing Economics 101. Bob's BBQ pit in Podunk Village, Kansas should NOT be forced to pay employees $15.00 an hour when the average rent is $300 per month and the average 3 bed/2 bath house costs $40,000.

    I am okay with a local minimum wage of $15.00 in a few very high COLA locations like San Fran, Seattle, NYC, Boston, Center City Philadelphia, etc... but that must be kept to a local level, not state or federal.

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    Democrats in 2016:

    “Russia interfered in the election. We will not accept the integrity of the results!”

    Democrats in 2020:

    “How dare you raise questions about election integrity!”

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    Hours prior, the actor slammed Democrats for being hypocritical as Americans were awaiting results of the battleground states.

    "Hey dems, saying 'just accept the election results' is pretty ironic considering you spent the last 4 years NOT accepting the election results," Sorbo wrote Friday night.

    Kirstie Alley voiced her frustrations with Twitter over its censorship of tweets from conservatives.

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    Oh fake Hercules is upset!

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    Nate Silver NateSilver538
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    In heavily Hispanic Starr County, TX in the Rio Grande Valley—which may have the biggest swing toward Trump of any county in the country—turnout was up massively, from 11,700 four years ago to 17,500 this year.
    Biden can lose Wisconsin, Michigan Arizona , pa still
    Media does not make him president
    Dec 8 the electors vote
    Rep. Jim Jordan Jim_Jordan
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    Democrats in 2016:

    “Russia interfered in the election. We will not accept the integrity of the results!”

    Democrats in 2020:

    “How dare you raise questions about election integrity!”
    Hours prior, the actor slammed Democrats for being hypocritical as Americans were awaiting results of the battleground states.

    "Hey dems, saying 'just accept the election results' is pretty ironic considering you spent the last 4 years NOT accepting the election results," Sorbo wrote Friday night.

    Kirstie Alley voiced her frustrations with Twitter over its censorship of tweets from conservatives.
    BWAHAHAHA Mellllltdoooooown!!!

    BIDEN President.

    NOT Trump.

    USA! USA!! USA!!!

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    Rep. Jim Jordan Jim_Jordan
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    Democrats in 2016:

    “Russia interfered in the election. We will not accept the integrity of the results!”

    Democrats in 2020:

    “How dare you raise questions about election integrity!”

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    Rep. Jim Jordan Jim_Jordan
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    Democrats in 2016:

    “Russia interfered in the election. We will not accept the integrity of the results!”

    Democrats in 2020:

    “How dare you raise questions about election integrity!”
    Yall keep repeating this like it's a zinger or anyone cares so you're admitting the 2016 election was rigged?

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    Yall keep repeating this like it's a zinger or anyone cares so you're admitting the 2016 election was rigged?
    Hillary conceded on election night

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    Good they found the glitch find out how many votes it changed then trump will win that state and other states he quote lost
    Make all battle ground states count by hand !

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