this guy?
bye Chris
this guy?
bye Chris
Nice. Caught a bit of this episode earlier while at the Sportsbar, will search for full episode.
Nevermind, it is on now!
FACT: More Than 450,000 Ballots in Key States "Miraculously" Only Have a Mark for Biden
moral victories.
My President Biden already naming his Coronavirus team. Not wasting a second.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/polit...ght/index.html
USA! USA!! USA!!!
50,000 ballots arrived late in PA thanks in large part to Dejoy violating a court order. They skewed less Democrat than the other mail-in ballots in PA did but they were still +20% Dem, and Trump has been fighting aggressively to get them tossed even though they were mailed before election day.
I'm glad Biden won by a big enough margin but that doesn't change the fact the GOP had every intention of weaponizing the USPS to steal an election, and MAGA s were perfectly fine with it.
Its a bad day for President Guaido as well
https://www.politico.com/states/new-...fender-1335241
Rudy's election fraud witness in the parking lot in front of the landscaper's.The first person Rudy Giuliani, the attorney for President Donald Trump, called up as a witness to baseless allegations of vote counting shenanigans in Philadelphia during a press conference last week is a sex offender who for years has been a perennial candidate in New Jersey.
“It’s such a shame. This is a democracy,” Daryl Brooks, who said he was a GOP poll watcher, said at the press conference, held at Four Seasons Total Landscaping in Northeast Philadelphia. “They did not allow us to see anything. Was it corrupt or not? But give us an opportunity as poll watchers to view all the do ents — all of the ballots.”
Trenton political insiders watched with bemusement as Brooks took the podium.
Brooks was incarcerated in the 1990s on charges of sexual assault, lewdness and endangering the welfare of a minor for exposing himself to two girls ages 7 and 11, according to news accounts.![]()
yep, biden leads there by ~45k votes. its highly unlikely he won ~49k of those ~53k balots when 31% of them came from republicans.
remember, SCOTUS only let them keep counting those because it was 4-4... Roberts and the 3 liberals vs Gorsuch/Kavanaugh/Alito/Thomas. covid barrett will be the deciding vote on that one. they even said they would likely take the case up after the election, which is why they were ordered to segregate these ballots. but biden's gonna win this anyway. and even without PA... Georgia + NV carries
that doesnt inherently make his story less credible, imo (the sex offender status)
Thats pretty terrifying. do they release opinions on tied votes? what was the GOP justices gibberish ramblings on that one?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/28/u...e-ballots.htmlSupreme Court Allows Longer Deadlines for Absentee Ballots in Pennsylvania and North CarolinaRepublicans in both states opposed the extensions. Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who joined the court on Tuesday, did not participate in either case, saying she had not had time to fully review the briefs.
The Pennsylvania Republican Party had asked the justices to temporarily block a ruling from the state’s highest court that allowed election officials to count some mailed ballots received up to three days after Election Day.
The Pennsylvania Republican Party had asked the justices to temporarily block a ruling from the state’s highest court that allowed election officials to count some mailed ballots received up to three days after Election Day.
WASHINGTON — In a pair of decisions welcomed by Democrats, the Supreme Court on Wednesday let election officials in two key battleground states, Pennsylvania and North Carolina, accept absentee ballots for several days after Election Day.
In the Pennsylvania case, the court refused a plea from Republicans in the state that it decide before Election Day whether election officials can continue receiving absentee ballots for three days after Nov. 3.
In the North Carolina case, the court let stand lower court rulings that allowed the state’s board of elections to extend the deadline to nine days after Election Day, up from the three days called for by the state legislature.
The court’s brief orders in the two cases were unsigned. The Pennsylvania order appeared to be unanimous, while the North Carolina one was issued over three noted dissents.
Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who joined the court on Tuesday, did not take part in either case. A court spokeswoman said Justice Barrett had not participated “because of the need for a prompt resolution” and “because she has not had time to fully review the parties’ filings.”
The Pennsylvania and North Carolina cases were the latest examples of the complications that Covid-19 has presented to officials preparing for next week’s election and facing a record-setting number of absentee and mail-in ballots cast by voters eager to avoid voting in person during a pandemic.
Democrats have consistently pushed for more lenient rules when it comes to mail-in ballots and how and when they are counted. Republicans have resisted such changes, with many of them arguing that the relaxed rules could open the process to abuse and fraud.
There were no noted dissents in the Pennsylvania case, though three justices said the court might return to it after Election Day. In the North Carolina case, the same three members of the court — Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch — said they would have granted requests from Republican lawmakers and the Trump campaign to block lower court rulings allowing the longer deadline.
The two cases involved broadly similar issues. In Pennsylvania, the question was whether the state’s Supreme Court could override voting rules set by the state legislature. In North Carolina, the question was whether state election officials had the power to alter such voting rules.
The Pennsylvania case left open the possibility of later action by the court.
“I reluctantly conclude that there is simply not enough time at this late date to decide the question before the election,” Justice Alito wrote.
“Although the court denies the motion to expedite” the pe ion seeking review, he wrote, the pe ion “remains before us, and if it is granted, the case can then be decided under a shortened schedule.”
The court’s refusal to move more quickly came a little more than a week after it deadlocked, 4 to 4, on an emergency application in the case. The Pennsylvania Republican Party had asked the justices to temporarily block a ruling from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court that allowed election officials to count some mailed ballots received up to three days after Election Day.
The state court said the extra time was needed because of the coronavirus pandemic and delays in mail service.
State Republicans, apparently hoping that the arrival of Justice Barrett would alter the judicial calculus, returned to the Supreme Court on Friday asking it to hear an ordinary appeal from the state court’s ruling, which is not unusual, but to compress a process that usually takes months into a few days, which certainly is.
In his statement, Justice Alito criticized his court’s treatment of the case, which he said had “needlessly created conditions that could lead to serious postelection problems.”
“The Supreme Court of Pennsylvania has issued a decree that squarely alters an important statutory provision enacted by the Pennsylvania legislature pursuant to its authority under the Cons ution of the United States to make rules governing the conduct of elections for federal office,” he wrote.
That echoed a concurring opinion issued on Monday by Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh in a voting case from Wisconsin. Justice Kavanaugh also said that state legislatures, rather than state courts, have the last word in setting state election procedures.
Writing on Wednesday, Justice Alito said he regretted that the election would be “conducted under a cloud.”
“It would be highly desirable to issue a ruling on the cons utionality of the State Supreme Court’s decision before the election,” he wrote. “That question has national importance, and there is a strong likelihood that the State Supreme Court decision violates the federal Cons ution.”
“The provisions of the federal Cons ution conferring on state legislatures, not state courts, the authority to make rules governing federal elections would be meaningless,” he wrote, “if a state court could override the rules adopted by the legislature simply by claiming that a state cons utional provision gave the courts the authority to make whatever rules it thought appropriate for the conduct of a fair election.”
Earlier on Wednesday, Pennsylvania officials told the court that they had instructed county election officials to segregate ballots arriving after 8 p.m. on Election Day through 5 p.m. three days later. That could potentially allow a later ruling from the court to determine whether they were ultimately counted.
In its motion seeking expedited consideration of the case, lawyers for the Republican Party wrote that the court’s ordinary briefing schedules “would not allow the case to be considered and decided before the results of the general election must be finalized.”
The motion noted that four justices had already indicated where they stood when the court deadlocked on Oct. 19. Justices Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh said they would have granted a stay blocking the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s decision. On the other side were Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and the court’s three-member liberal wing: Justices Stephen G. Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan.
Neither side gave reasons, and the split suggested that Justice Barrett could play a decisive role if the court eventually heard the case.
Responding to the motion seeking expedited treatment of the Republicans’ appeal, the Pennsylvania Democratic Party called the request “rash and unseemly.”
“Even on the extraordinarily hurried schedule” proposed by the Republicans, the response said, “a ruling from this court could not realistically issue until the eve of the election.”
“By then,” it added, “it will be too late for many Pennsylvania voters who have relied on the existing rules to adjust to any change in the rules that this court might impose.”
The state court ordered a three-day extension for ballots clearly mailed on or before Election Day and for those with missing or illegible postmarks “unless a preponderance of the evidence demonstrates that it was mailed after Election Day.”
The U.S. Supreme Court has not hesitated to block orders from federal judges that sought to alter state rules for conducting elections. Rulings from state courts present more difficult questions because the Supreme Court generally defers to them in cases concerning interpretations of state law, and the Cons ution empowers state legislatures to set the times, places and manner of congressional elections.
In an earlier brief, Republicans argued that “the Cons ution reserves a special role for state legislatures in federal elections,” one that cannot be overridden by state courts. The brief relied heavily on the Supreme Court’s decision in the cases culminating in Bush v. Gore, the 2000 ruling that handed the presidency to George W. Bush.
“By extending the deadline by judicial fiat and establishing a presumption of timeliness that will allow voters to cast or mail ballots after Election Day,” the brief said, “the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has impermissibly altered both the ‘time’ and ‘manner’ established by the General Assembly” for conducting elections.
In response, Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania’s attorney general, a Democrat, said a provision of the State Cons ution protecting “free and equal elections” allowed the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to extend the deadline.
The North Carolina case concerned a state law that allowed absentee ballots to be received up to three days after Election Day. But the state’s board of elections, drawing on its power to address natural disasters, had agreed to nine days as part of a settlement of a lawsuit in state court.
All five members of the board agreed to the settlement, including two Republicans who later resigned, saying they had been “gulled into providing their assent.”
Republican lawmakers, the Republican National Committee and the Trump campaign challenged the settlement in federal court, saying the board had exceeded its power. By a 12-to-3 vote, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit ruled against them. All three of President Trump’s appointees to the court voted with the majority.
“All ballots must still be mailed on or before Election Day,” Judge James A. Wynn Jr. wrote. “The change is simply an extension from three to nine days after Election Day for a timely ballot to be received and counted. That is all.”
In dissent, Judges J. Harvie Wilkinson and G. Steven Agee, joined by Judge Paul V. Niemeyer, said the majority’s ruling had endorsed a pernicious trend.
“It takes no special genius to know what this insidious formula is producing,” they wrote. “Our country is now plagued by a proliferation of pre-election litigation that creates confusion and turmoil and that threatens to undermine public confidence in the federal courts, state agencies and the elections themselves.”
In the Supreme Court, the Trump campaign urged the justices to intercede.
“This case involves an extraordinary attempt by an unelected state board of elections to rewrite the unambiguous terms of a statute enacted in June by a bipartisan state legislature to set time, place, and manner requirements for absentee voting in response to the Covid-19 pandemic,” the brief said.
The board responded that it had the statutory authority to act. A state law gave it emergency powers to be used when elections are disrupted by natural disasters.
“In the past three years alone, the board has twice extended the absentee-ballot receipt deadline after hurricanes hit the state’s coast,” its brief said. “No one challenged those extensions.”
Justice Thomas said he would have granted the stay sought by the Republicans, but he gave no reasons.
Justice Gorsuch, joined by Justice Alito, criticized “the board’s cons utional overreach.”
Its actions, Justice Gorsuch wrote, “do damage to faith in the written Cons ution as law, to the power of the people to oversee their own government, and to the authority of legislatures.”
“Such last-minute changes by largely unaccountable bodies, too,” he wrote, “invite confusion, risk altering election outcomes, and in the process threaten voter confidence in the results.”
Why is it terrifying
It is what it is
It needs to be followed or why have the USA consitution
Pretty sure the 4-4 ruling didn't include any written opinion.
They also ruled on the same issue a 2nd time after the Pennsylvania Republican party raised it again. That ruling included a minority dissent from Gorsuch, Thomas and Alito but not Kavanaugh. Similarly, in North Carolina, Kavanaugh joined Roberts + the three liberals on the same issue re: ballots arriving after election day. COVID Barrett is definitely going to be as much of a right wing hack as Thomas and Alito, and while I had hopes for Gorsuch his interpretation of the cons ution on election law issues is ridiculous, so Kavanaugh is likely the deciding vote on these issues.
IIRC though those 50k mail-in ballots that arrived after election day haven't even been added to the count, so Biden's 45k vote lead is without them (it's also without a lot of provisional ballots from Philadelphia County and Allegheny County, so it would take an act of god for Biden to lose PA at this point).
interesting. i wasn't clear on that. do you have a source?
Not sure how accurate this is but the polls ed up twice over maybe lmao. First by getting our hopes up then by costing us votes
By an Algerian caricaturist
Translation : Biden's inauguration day
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