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    Yay another slap fight thread.
    It wasn't meant to be, just trumpartd soy boy got triggered, tbh

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    Re-education camp for MAGA s.
    Boot camp for blue team, as led by *an international socialist*:

    The tragedy of progressives is that Trump’s supporters are not entirely wrong. The Democratic party has demonstrated time and again its determination to prevent any challenge to the powerful that are responsible for the pain, anger and humiliation that propelled Trump to the White House. Democrats can talk until the cows come home about racial justice, the need for more women in positions of power, the rights of the LGBT community etc. But, the moment politicians like Bernie Sanders threaten to challenge the power structures that keep black Americans, women, minorities and the poor in society’s margins, they go all out to stop them.

    Trump’s supporters are unlikely to articulate this in so many words. However, their contempt for the liberal establishment is rooted in the realisation that the rich Democrats behind the Biden-Harris ticket won’t ever truly change conditions for the poor. Any redistribution of wealth and power that threatens their kids’ trust fund, or soaring asset prices on Wall Street, are off-limits – and those voters know that.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-thing-we-need

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    Not going to happen, I expect Biden to be Goldman Sachs , tbh
    the entire Dem establishment is BigFinance's eg, Obama/Holder wouldn't touch Wall St banksters.

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    He has to appoint a cabinet. I wonder how many recycled names he's going to use from the Obama administration vs building his own. I'd like to see him keep certain names out of it but not be completely surprised if some get added due to loyalty.

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    He has to appoint a cabinet. I wonder how many recycled names he's going to use from the Obama administration vs building his own. I'd like to see him keep certain names out of it but not be completely surprised if some get added due to loyalty.
    I'm ambivalent if I want him to appoint Shillary though. While it would make for a glorious conserva trigger, it would be a stain on his administration, tbh

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    He has to appoint a cabinet. I wonder how many recycled names he's going to use from the Obama administration vs building his own. I'd like to see him keep certain names out of it but not be completely surprised if some get added due to loyalty.
    People like Rahm Emanuel, almost unbelievably.

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    I also don't expect a lot of Obama cabinet members, tbh... I can see a number of Dem primary candidates like Yang, Klobuchar, Warren to get positions

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    I'm ambivalent if I want him to appoint Shillary though. While it would make for a glorious conserva trigger, it would be a stain on his administration, tbh
    It would be great if he appointed her Sec of State.

    I didn't even consider her.

    AOC for Sec of Defense
    Talib as Sec of Homeland Security

    Abrams as HUD

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    It would be great if he appointed her Sec of State.

    I didn't even consider her.

    AOC for Sec of Defense
    Talib as Sec of Homeland Security

    Abrams as HUD
    tbh

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    Throw in Bernie as Treasury Secretary, IMO

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    People like Rahm Emanuel, almost unbelievably.
    God I hope not, that pos

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    I also don't expect a lot of Obama cabinet members, tbh... I can see a number of Dem primary candidates like Yang, Klobuchar, Warren to get positions
    They're not giving up a senate seat to give Warren anything

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    Throw in Bernie as Treasury Secretary, IMO
    Also no since Vermont elected a Republican governor

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    It would be great if he appointed her Sec of State.

    I didn't even consider her.

    AOC for Sec of Defense
    Talib as Sec of Homeland Security

    Abrams as HUD
    Abrams should lead the DNC after the way she delivered GA to 46. And Tom Perez should get ed with a ed bat.

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    It would be great if he appointed her Sec of State.

    I didn't even consider her.

    AOC for Sec of Defense
    Talib as Sec of Homeland Security

    Abrams as HUD
    He’s gonna make black Hillary (Susan Rice) SOS, and equally ty choice.

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    Throw in Bernie as Treasury Secretary, IMO
    Beto as Sec of Education

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    How cute he has his own lil podium

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    How cute he has his own lil podium
    Bow to your new president! He's white, you should be proud, tbh

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    Re-education camp for MAGA s.
    Building camps for 71 Million will spur on the economy

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    Yves Smith slams the Biden/Harris COVID plan

    First, this new plan isn’t the same as the one on the Biden campaign site. The campaign version had no mention of contact tracing, while this iteration does. But if you simply skim the campaign version versus the president-presumptive one, you’ll see tons of program proposals from the campaign have vanished, like emergency paid leave (with reimbursements to employers), income support for gig workers whose pay has declined, rental assistance, and support for small businesses.

    The campaign plan also had sweeping promises about paying for all Covid treatments, not just testing. For instance, this section, by using the term “balance billing” clearly meant it included hospitalizations and emergency room visits:

    All copayments, deductibles and any cost-sharing for treatment for COVID-19 for insured. Providers will submit cost-sharing claims to NDMS that do ent private insurance contractual arrangement for co-payments. To ensure maximum provider participation and minimum billing abuses to consumers, current Medicare law’s “conditions of participation” and system-wide prohibitions against balance billing and surprise medical bills will apply. To guard against fraud and abuse by bad-apple health care providers, harsh civil and monetary penalties under the False Claims Act will apply.


    There’s not a peep about any of this in the new version. All it has regarding “treatments,” in context, is new medications to reduce the severity and/or length of a Covid infection, and not, say, being administered oxygen in a hospital:

    Plan for the effective, equitable distribution of treatments and vaccines — because development isn’t enough if they aren’t effectively distributed.

    The lack of financial support for workers to stay at home because they are sick, quarantined, or just waiting for test results makes it difficult to treat this scheme as serious. And the failure to even ask for the government to cover all Covid treatment costs, not just the kind that can be administered with a needle means a lot of people who have or think they have Covid won’t seek treatment until they are really really ill, increasing the load on hospitals and producing worse outcomes.

    And the severe downgrading of his Covid plan shows Biden embracing the Obama playbook: meet the Republicans 75% of the way when you start negotiating, with the expectation that the final deal will move even more in their direction.
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020...-no-steak.html

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    And don’t get too hopeful about the Pfizer vaccine. Aside from the distribution issues resulting from the need to keep it super cold (discussed at length yesterday in Links), Bloomberg flagged another wee problem:
    It’s also important to continue watching those who received the vaccine for years. The messenger RNA technology used in the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine has never been deployed in humans before.

    A Pew survey in September found that about half the Americans would not take a Covid vaccine out of concern over side effects and safety. Relying on a heretofore unused method isn’t a way to encourage confidence. Admittedly there are other vaccines in the pipeline, but the Pfizer vaccine doesn’t look like a magic bullet.

    That means the Biden-Harris Administration, like Trump, can’t over-rely on a medical industry save. They need to do some Covid heavy lifting. “Better than Trump” doesn’t cut it. Their current scheme isn’t close to adequate.

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    Years ago, I read comments that quality people who would otherwise accept to work for an Administration and get a career benefit, simply didn't want Trash on their resumes.

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