Barr Memo: "specious, speculative, fanciful or far-fetched claims should not be a basis for initiating federal inquiries."

[Winehole23]

If there's nothing to hide, there should be no problem with it, yes? We spend money on bird watching and all kinds of stupid sh1t.

I don get it. In a lawsuit alleging election fraud you have to show your evidence and it has to match the facts of the case, or your case goes nowhere.

But based on mere su ion, completely sans evidence beyond ordinary mis-tabulations, a free and fair election with a clear outcome should be audited state by state because your spidey-sense tingles??

[Will Hunting]

Question for the Democrats in here. Do you have a problem with recounts and audits in all swing states and possibly all 50 states?

If there is nothing to hide there should be no problem with this. It would put to bed all the doubt out there, especially about these iffy mail in ballots.

And yes I do realize this would likely take months. They could swear in Biden regardless, but I think restoring confidence in the system is important.

I have a big problem with it. There’s no credible evidence such a wide scale audit is necessary beyond the fact you’re candidate lost and you’re trying to create the narrative that muh confidence needs to be restored as a coping mechanism. Taxpayer money shouldn’t be wasted for the sake of appeasing Q and MAGA conspiracy theories.

Whats next? Should Comet Ping Pong be audited merely because of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories? The mere fact a substantial minority of idiots believe something doesn’t make it true.

If Trump thought our elections were such a problem he had 4 years to do something about it. He elected to spend that time giving himself a tax cut and trying to take healthcare away from 20 million Americans.

[Leetonidas]

If there's nothing to hide, there should be no problem with it, yes? We spend money on bird watching and all kinds of stupid sh1t.

That's not how it works. Until Trump proves in court there was fraud there should be no recount. And sorry but sticky notes aren't real evidence

[Dirks_Finale]

You wear your mask while driving

You have me confused with Biden voters.

[Will Hunting]

How about just the swing states? If it's done in say 6 states and comes up dry, I think it would put the issue to bed.

But what if it shows fraud? How much of it would be bothersome to you?

Democrats should agree to an “audit” of our elections when the red states agree to reopen all the polling locations they’ve closed since John Roberts struck down the voting rights act and further when all 50 states agree to same day voter registration, Election Day being a national holiday, and a requirement that every state has a minimum of one week of easily accessible early voting in midterm and general elections.

The notion that conservatives suddenly care about election integrity is a joke.

[Winehole23]

I don get it. In a lawsuit alleging election fraud you have to show your evidence and it has to match the facts of the case, or your case goes nowhere.

But based on mere su ion, completely sans evidence beyond ordinary mis-tabulations, a free and fair election with a clear outcome should be audited state by state because your spidey-sense tingles??

that said, count to your heart's content, D_F

[DMX7]

How about just the swing states? If it's done in say 6 states and comes up dry, I think it would put the issue to bed.

But what if it shows fraud? How much of it would be bothersome to you?

We probably will get a recount in at least Wisconsin and yet it won't ever be enough to convince people who want to believe the election was stolen that it wasn't. If the allegations of fraud are based on nothing then they can't every really be disproved to someone who doesn't care about the lack of evidence.

[Dirks_Finale]

I don get it. In a lawsuit alleging election fraud you have to show your evidence and it has to match the facts of the case, or your case goes nowhere.

But based on mere su ion, completely sans evidence beyond ordinary mis-tabulations, a free and fair election with a clear outcome should be audited state by state because your spidey-sense tingles??

Nobody even said it is taking place. It's a hypothetical question. You have tens of millions of people no longer trusting the process thanks to all these mail-in ballots and other factors.

[Will Hunting]

Nobody even said it is taking place. It's a hypothetical question. You have tens of millions of people no longer trusting the process thanks to all these mail-in ballots and other factors.

Mail in voting has been happening for decades. This is a boogeyman Trump’s supporters never cared about until Trump started complaining about it.

[Dirks_Finale]

I have a big problem with it. There’s no credible evidence such a wide scale audit is necessary beyond the fact you’re candidate lost and you’re trying to create the narrative that muh confidence needs to be restored as a coping mechanism. Taxpayer money shouldn’t be wasted for the sake of appeasing Q and MAGA conspiracy theories.

How much money did we blow on some bogus Russian investigation? This might actually accomplish something.

Democrats should agree to an “audit” of our elections when the red states agree to reopen all the polling locations they’ve closed since John Roberts struck down the voting rights act and further when all 50 states agree to same day voter registration, Election Day being a national holiday, and a requirement that every state has a minimum of one week of easily accessible early voting in midterm and general elections.
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Agree with all those things. Make Election day a saturday and/or a holiday as you say. We have two weeks of early voting here in a deeply red state.

And everybody should be showing I.D. Intersting how the democrats seem to have a problem with that.

[Will Hunting]

How much money did we blow on some bogus Russian investigation? This might actually accomplish something.

Trump had full control of Congress for two years. Take that up with him. He didn’t think election auditing was a big deal until he lost.

Agree with all those things. Make Election day a saturday and/or a holiday as you say. We have two weeks of early voting here in a deeply red state.

And everybody should be showing I.D. Intersting how the democrats seem to have a problem with that.

When voter ID laws are intentionally designed to make it so native Americans in North Dakota cant vote because their reservation IDs don’t meet the new requirements, yeah I’ve got a problem with that. As usual, conservatives view something in a very simplistic way without knowing all the ramifications. If it’s just a picture ID I really don’t have a problem with it, but a lot of the voter ID laws require a more rigid check which I have a big problem with.

[TSA]

I have a big problem with it. There’s no credible evidence such a wide scale audit is necessary beyond the fact you’re candidate lost and you’re trying to create the narrative that muh confidence needs to be restored as a coping mechanism. Taxpayer money shouldn’t be wasted for the sake of appeasing Q and MAGA conspiracy theories.

Whats next? Should Comet Ping Pong be audited merely because of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories? The mere fact a substantial minority of idiots believe something doesn’t make it true.

If Trump thought our elections were such a problem he had 4 years to do something about it. He elected to spend that time giving himself a tax cut and trying to take healthcare away from 20 million Americans.

Taxpayer money was wasted on 3+ years chasing the Dems Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy theories and you didn't say

[Reck]

Nobody even said it is taking place. It's a hypothetical question. You have tens of millions of people no longer trusting the process thanks to all these mail-in ballots and other factors.

So are Republicans going to urge their voters to vote in person again in the upcoming Georgia runnoffs election? You best get used to the idea of mail in because it's happening again.

The pandemic is only getting worse.

[Will Hunting]

Taxpayer money was wasted on 3+ years chasing the Dems Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy theories and you didn't say

muh whataboutism

[DMX7]

Trump's lawsuits are fizzling out badly. Those lawyers have no problem racking up the hours to bring home the bacon though.

[Winehole23]

Nobody even said it is taking place. It's a hypothetical question. You have tens of millions of people no longer trusting the process thanks to all these mail-in ballots and other factors.

Mail in balloting isn't a novelty, Oregon votes by mail only, I believe.

Millions of Americans already trust on mail in balloting, there's nothing exotic or unusual about it. You just got startled by the turnout.

(occupational hazard)

[Will Hunting]

Trump's lawsuits are fizzling out badly. Those lawyers have no problem racking up the hours to bring home the bacon though.

They will when they realize they aren’t gonna get paid. I can’t imagine the kind of retainer Jones Day demanded in order to represent Trump.

[Reck]

Trump's lawsuits are fizzling out badly. Those lawyers have no problem racking up the hours to bring home the bacon though.

I wonder what Sheldon Aldelson is thinking about his money being squandered like this. I dont think this is what he had in mind when he donated 80 million dollars to Trump and the GOP.

[Spurminator]

I've been hearing about voter fraud(dead voters), ballot tampering and intimidation long before Trump got in there. Especially in Phliadelphia.

Right, and I heard the United States faked the moon landing for the past 30 years but conspiracy theories carry a different weight when they're is touted by the President of the United States and enabled by the rest of his party.

[Bogie]

Taxpayer money was wasted on 3+ years chasing the Dems Trump/Russia collusion conspiracy theories and you didn't say

well except for all the fines that were collected from all of the assets that were greater than the cost of the investigation

you’re really stupid

[Will Hunting]

I’d be fine with scrapping mail in voting altogether (sans disabled people or people with a real excuse to vote absentee) if we had free and fair elections that made voting easy, but as long as were the country with 5 hour lines to vote and also the only country that insists people cram said 5 hours into their work day, mail in voting is necessary.

This doesn’t just apply to red states, New York and Connecticut have two of the most corrupt and backwards boards of election in the country. All of it should be fixed, but it’s clear Republicans could give two s about fixing our elections and just want to delay results of this election being certified.

[Will Hunting]

I wonder what Sheldon Aldelson is thinking about his money being squandered like this. I dont think this is what he had in mind when he donated 80 million dollars to Trump and the GOP.

Merchant Sheldon is fine with doing what’s needed to keep Georgia MAGAtatds hot and bothered for the next 2 months.

[Dirks_Finale]

I have no idea how big of an issue voter fraud is/isn't.. but there are some things that are su ious about this election.

Turnout - 84% of eligible voters in Milwaukee show up. As opposed to 51% of Cleveland voters. Similar cities, quite a bit of difference in turnout. Wisconsin does have same day registration which would account for some of it, but it's still quite a bit of difference.

Obama was a Democratic God with a great ground game. He has charm, charisma, intellect and is very well spoken. Joe Biden is a feckless old man who has problems completing 2 consecutive sentences. He had virtually no ground game and didn't do much campaigning. And Biden is going to get like 10 million more votes than Obama did in 2012.

The "Biden-only" ballots. You look at GA where Trump and the Senators got roughly the same amount of votes. Biden got around 100k more than they did.

Then you look at Penn and the rejection rate from first time mail in ballots is normally like 3%...in this election virtually nobody has had their ballot rejected. The rate is 30 times lower than in 2016.

None of this proves fraud. But I think an audit in the swing states would be a nice step in reassuring voter's that the process is not lacking in integrity.

[Joseph Kony]

I have no idea how big of an issue voter fraud is/isn't.. but there are some things that are su ious about this election.

Turnout - 84% of eligible voters in Milwaukee show up. As opposed to 51% of Cleveland voters. Similar cities, quite a bit of difference in turnout. Wisconsin does have same day registration which would account for some of it, but it's still quite a bit of difference.

Obama was a Democratic God with a great ground game. He has charm, charisma, intellect and is very well spoken. Joe Biden is a feckless old man who has problems completing 2 consecutive sentences. He had virtually no ground game and didn't do much campaigning. And Biden is going to get like 10 million more votes than Obama did in 2012.

The "Biden-only" ballots. You look at GA where Trump and the Senators got roughly the same amount of votes. Biden got around 100k more than they did.

Then you look at Penn and the rejection rate from first time mail in ballots is normally like 3%...in this election virtually nobody has had their ballot rejected. The rate is 30 times lower than in 2016.

None of this proves fraud. But I think an audit in the swing states would be a nice step in reassuring voter's that the process is not lacking in integrity.

All of your "su ions" are weak af. High turnout is not indicative of anything other than Trump being such a piece of america wants him out, and the Biden only bull has been disproven already

[Winehole23]

I have no idea how big of an issue voter fraud is/isn't.. but there are some things that are su ious about this election.

Turnout - 84% of eligible voters in Milwaukee show up. As opposed to 51% of Cleveland voters. Similar cities, quite a bit of difference in turnout. Wisconsin does have same day registration which would account for some of it, but it's still quite a bit of difference.

Obama was a Democratic God with a great ground game. He has charm, charisma, intellect and is very well spoken. Joe Biden is a feckless old man who has problems completing 2 consecutive sentences. He had virtually no ground game and didn't do much campaigning. And Biden is going to get like 10 million more votes than Obama did in 2012.

The "Biden-only" ballots. You look at GA where Trump and the Senators got roughly the same amount of votes. Biden got around 100k more than they did.

Then you look at Penn and the rejection rate from first time mail in ballots is normally like 3%...in this election virtually nobody has had their ballot rejected. The rate is 30 times lower than in 2016.

None of this proves fraud. But I think an audit in the swing states would be a nice step in reassuring voter's that the process is not lacking in integrity.

Margins were much closer in 2016 in WI, PA and MI, but HRC conceded.