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LBJ or FDR, take your pick. Carter was actually a decent human being but incompetent and only a one term president.
I'll go with Pierce because of his politics regarding slavery during his time
LBJ or FDR, take your pick. Carter was actually a decent human being but incompetent and only a one term president.
And Trump, a one term president, most definitely isn't #1 worst if that's what you're implying. All things considered, from the economy to COVID to the fact he only had 4 years instead of 8... I'd put Trump somewhere in the middle.
you said carter is a decent human but incompetent and only a one term president.
which is basically trump + the decent human being part
Carter was a disaster economically, so that cancels out the human being part. Neither are top 5 or bottom 5.
Lincoln, Nixon, Jefferson, Jackson, Truman, Eisenhower, Grant, Teddy, Kennedy and Washington... in no particular order... are my top 10.
Best, not worst FYI
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trump was also disastrous economically
the best fiscal year he had was 2017 when fully riding the obama wave. started to slow in 2018 after his tax cuts took effect. and then his mishandling of covid tanked the economy
The guy who is still trying to win an election he clearly lost is not among Millennial's worse list.
1. Woodrow Wilson
2. FDR
3. Bush jr
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Not in the first 3 years by any means, and the 4th year is an asterisk because he was dealt a ridiculously horrible hand by the chinese. I think the stimulus was awful and has caused some short term stagflation, hopefully that will translate into temporary deflation early in the Biden regime
Carter was a stagflation disaster from 77-80, he almost lost his own primary as an in bent, gas went up from 69 cents a gallon to $2.79 in the late 70s, food went up seven-fold in price, and he is responsible for losing arguably one of the most strategic allies in the world in Iran.
Obama gets dinged a few points for not doing something about Iran in June 2009 when they had a chance to overthrow the religious leadership then, when the ayatollah's butt buddy Ahmedinejad rigged the election and millions of millennials protested against it and got beaten down by the religious police, but it was nothing nearly as bad as 1979 when the US could have completely wiped out the shia-jihadi revolutionary front to begin with.
with the caveat that grover cleveland probably shouldnt be included in the singe-term section...
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He lost, plain and simple, but it doesn't change his presidential legacy, i.e. if Gore had been president from 97-00 and lost the way he did in 00, the fact he fought on a couple months wouldn't have made him worse or better IMOThe guy who is still trying to win an election he clearly lost is not among Millennial's worse list.
Bottom ten are (no particular order): FDR, LBJ, Reagan, Wilson, Pierce, Johnson, Hoover, Carter, Bush Sr, Adams (pick one)
Jan 2017 - Dec 2019 had the highest net job creation in decades.
James Buchanan is the only president who’s done more than Trump to fan the flames of a potential civil war. Imo Trump and Buchanan are tied right now, but if we end up with mass riots and destruction because of MAGA s Trump has convinced the election was rigged, I’ll rank Trump ahead.
people brainwashed by their corporate overlords into ranking FDR as a bad president. He won 4 ing terms as president.
He's definitely #1 worst in my lifetime.
As far as historical, I find it difficult to believe any of his predecessors were so adamantly anti-democracy, but this country certainly has a shady history.
Youre also just wrong. There was more job creation in the last 3 years of Obama’s presidency than the first 3 years of Trump’s. It also makes no sense to give Trump credit for 2017 when that was Obama’s policy and budget year. Trump gets credit for stagnating job growth in 2018 with tax cuts that went towards stock buy backs.
Cuckservatives who rank Eisenhower high and FDR low expose themselves are partisan hacks. Eisenhower kept all new deal programs in place and in some ways expanded the new deal (i.e. the interstate highway projects). If he ran for president on his economic policy today, he'd be labeled a radical communist. There aren't enough differences between FDR and Eisenhower to say one was significantly better than the other. IMO they were both two of the best presidents we ever had.
Eisenhower also nominated Earl Warren, the most progressive Chief SCOTUS justice in the history of the country (i.e. why you always hear conservatives complaining about "the Warren Court").
Those were 100% necessary, but today's socialists would argue they are too car-centric and not green enough. The only problem is that they should have included a mandatory three regular lanes instead of two per direction on each and every interstate highway, accounting for a likely congestion in the future. Look at Austin today on 35... nuts. But really the whole corridor.
As for the Warren court, yeah that led to the Roe v Wade decision so that's probably the biggest complaint there. Back in the day SCOTUS picks were more about strict qualification rather than partisan or originalist vs. living cons utionalist.
Carter appointed Herr Volker who killed inflation. Reagan got the credit.
Obama's final 2-3 years were good for job growth, admittedly, though the salaries soared around 2018 for tech jobs compared to before. Obama's first term was terrible economically. Recession didn't officially end until early 2013
Youre also just wrong. There was more job creation in the last 3 years of Obama’s presidency than the first 3 years of Trump’s. It also makes no sense to give Trump credit for 2017 when that was Obama’s policy and budget year. Trump gets credit for stagnating job growth in 2018 with tax cuts that went towards stock buy backs.
The main knock on Ike IMO is letting the Dulles brothers run a corporate foreign policy that is still biting us in the ass 70 years later. Worse than Vietnam tbh.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cewbd.t01.htm
Net private sector job growth by year:
2013: 2,439,000
2014: 2,929,000
2015: 2,484,000
2016: 1,632,000
2017: 2,012,000
2018: 1,993,000
2019: 1,570,000
Job growth was already slowing down even before COVID because the right wing plan of tax cuts + deregulation was stagnating the economy the same way it always does.
Trump inherited a growing economy with booming job growth and ran it into the ground to give himself a tax cut.
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