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    It’s not wishful thinking at all. I give Biden the credit for winning over centrists. It was about him running on a good message the down ballot Dems couldn’t replicate. Had jack to do with Lincoln Project’s internet trolling echo chamber.
    Just on the FB posts I saw from my friends and family member a lot of the middle of the road people noticed and shared the Lincoln ads so a lot of them liked them

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    lol Dems had to ally with these guys to beat an fat elderly reality tv show host
    This burn might work if Biden gave them in a spot in his administration which didn’t happen.
    Hidden in this snakeboy post if you look closely at it is the implicit acknowledgement that a fat, orange skinned buffoon engaged in a hostile takeover of the entire Republican party via a rogue twitter account which is somehow less embarrassing

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    Just on the FB posts I saw from my friends and family member a lot of the middle of the road people noticed and shared the Lincoln ads so a lot of them liked them
    There’s no way to prove this or disprove this, I just think that if the Lincoln Project ads caught your eye, you were already leaning against Trump. The ads didn’t seem to have a target audience of moderate Republicans the way RVATs message did. The RVAT campaign where it played videos of life long Republicans explaining why they were voting for Biden seemed like a real effort to target GOP voters (and I hate Bill Kristol 10x more than any of the Lincoln Project s, so it’s not like I’m biased on that front). Lincoln Project ads like the one making fun of the Ivanka #findsomethingnew shtick or them putting billboards up on Time Square (since NYC is such a bellwether) did more to trigger Trump supporters than flip votes.

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    It wasn't about Trump. It was about keeping the power and status quo with the façade of a 2 party system, basically the WWE of politics. Trump made too many enemies by playing the Michael Corleone act and treating his party like Moe Green.

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    No, your Trump really was a ing disaster.

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    There’s no way to prove this or disprove this, I just think that if the Lincoln Project ads caught your eye, you were already leaning against Trump. The ads didn’t seem to have a target audience of moderate Republicans the way RVATs message did. The RVAT campaign where it played videos of life long Republicans explaining why they were voting for Biden seemed like a real effort to target GOP voters (and I hate Bill Kristol 10x more than any of the Lincoln Project s, so it’s not like I’m biased on that front). Lincoln Project ads like the one making fun of the Ivanka #findsomethingnew shtick or them putting billboards up on Time Square (since NYC is such a bellwether) did more to trigger Trump supporters than flip votes.
    Who even knows what ads are effective now or even if ads in general are effective anyway. 2016 Trump got hit with a trillion ads in the primary and general and barely had any paid media until the end of the general election and still won.

    tbh I thought some of the Lincoln was pretty funny like the ones mocking Lindsey Graham crying so maybe I'm biased lol. Also, I am somewhat wary of the critiques of them as most of the people I see ting on them online are leftists who did literally jack to help Biden get elected (almost all regular soccer mom style and older dems love the Lincoln project afaik). The guys who spent all the first half of 2020 calling Biden a rapist and senile are touchy that the Lincoln Project Ads may have been helped him get elected. Basically people who were never in Biden's corner for one second ting on a group that just unabashedly pushed him forward all year

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    Who even knows what ads are effective now or even if ads in general are effective anyway. 2016 Trump got hit with a trillion ads in the primary and general and barely had any paid media until the end of the general election and still won.

    tbh I thought some of the Lincoln was pretty funny like the ones mocking Lindsey Graham crying so maybe I'm biased lol. Also, I am somewhat wary of the critiques of them as most of the people I see ting on them online are leftists who did literally jack to help Biden get elected (almost all regular soccer mom style and older dems love the Lincoln project afaik). The guys who spent all the first half of 2020 calling Biden a rapist and senile are touchy that the Lincoln Project Ads may have been helped him get elected. Basically people who were never in Biden's corner for one second ting on a group that just unabashedly pushed him forward all year
    Their ads were definitely hilarious and my criticism of them isn’t rooted in the fact I’m a leftist (granted I might stop calling myself that because Twitter leftists have gotten so unbelievably stupid I don’t like being associated with them ), it’s rooted in my agenda to show that there’s no such thing as a good Republican and Democrats shouldn’t abandon their platform to win 7% of the Republican vote instead of 5%. Biden created a platform that unified the Dems which is why he won imo, no one else could have done as well with blue dog Dems and simultaneously progressives as Biden did.

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    It wasn't about Trump. It was about keeping the power and status quo with the façade of a 2 party system, basically the WWE of politics. Trump made too many enemies by playing the Michael Corleone act and treating his party like Moe Green.
    yea, i love analogies too bro

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    They served their purpose

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    Snakeboy voted for his Trump twice

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    Snakeboy voted for his Trump twice
    Him and karrin will vote for him a third time in 2024. Will cry even more when he gets beat by an 81 year old Biden.

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    they're so disappointed the coup attempt didn't work

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    they're so disappointed the coup attempt didn't work
    And u that 2 impeachments didnt work

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    And u that 2 impeachments didnt work
    Trump is twice impeached. First president to have that stain on him.

    Thinking that's nothing.

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    And u that 2 impeachments didnt work
    The first one worked spectacularly tbh.

    Even you have to claim you voted against him now.

    We'll see about this one.

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    Trump is twice impeached. First president to have that stain on him.

    Thinking that's nothing.
    And he’ll be the only one to have a bipartisan coalition in the senate vote to convict (twice). Might not be 67 votes, but still a bipartisan coalition both times.

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    Better than Porker... I mean, Trump

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    Better than Porker... I mean, Trump
    Yeah that's the standard lib defense of what you know you voted for
    Last edited by SnakeBoy; 02-13-2021 at 06:08 PM.

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    whoah if we can't trust paid political operatives to be beacons of ethics, integrity and morality ... then who can we trust

    THIS is mourning in america

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    whoah if we can't trust paid political operatives to be beacons of ethics, integrity and morality ... then who can we trust

    THIS is mourning in america
    I've been saying for years

    America is ed and un able. The Cons ution, slavery/racism, Capitalism doomed America.

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    Yeah that's the standard lib defense of what you know you voted for
    you voted for Trump twice and wanted his coup to work

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    Jesus, you can smell the desperation from ST conservatives these days. Clear they need a W really badly. Pretty pathetic.

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    Jesus, you can smell the desperation from ST conservatives these days. Clear they need a W really badly. Pretty pathetic.
    Trump loses the presidency and both houses and ST Trumpistas buy new sets of knee pads.

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    Jesus, you can smell the desperation from ST conservatives these days. Clear they need a W really badly. Pretty pathetic.
    Coming from the treasurer of the echo chamber of the left, that's pretty rich.

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    Yeah that's the standard lib defense of what you know you voted for
    No, I mean, really. A broom is better than Trump though, so we're talking bottom of the barrel here.

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