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    the point is the "army" they trained for 20 years flipped sides when hit the fan, the Afgan SF and translators are ed though. And honestly the guys that flipped are probably not long for this world either if the taliban is smart
    wrecky too with the proverbial good.

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    Oh agreed it’s no surprise that things unfolded this way, I’m saying there should be hearings over why the generals/intelligence agencies/etc. ed this up so badly and actually thought the Afghani army was going to put up a real fight.

    The inexcusable part to me is leaving US troops, personnel, translators, assets, etc in harm’s way. Everything else about the withdrawal I’m fine with and agree with, but you need to make sure both Americans and the Afghanis who helped us while we were there are safe. When you leave foreign assets hung out to dry in such a spectacular fashion for the world to see, you’re never going to find any who are willing to help you again.
    As if anyone would help us after we royal ed over the Kurds in Syria

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    Hundreds rushing US military planes. US soldiers cant do a damn thing



    Total cluster

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    the point is the "army" they trained for 20 years flipped sides when hit the fan, the Afgan SF and translators are ed though. And honestly the guys that flipped are probably not long for this world either if the taliban is smart
    But you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know that you were unwelcome there and this was in the cards. Spending 20 years there is a tacit admission you never trusted this ‘army’ to hold their own.

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    Bottom line is the US needs to just give up on trying to bring "democracy" to these holes around the world.

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    Hundreds rushing US military planes. US soldiers cant do a damn thing



    Total cluster
    CNN used to love to show these type moments. Not this time. Everything is under wraps. Same with FOX, they ain't no better, the mother ers.

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    Bottom line is the US needs to just give up on trying to bring "democracy" to these holes around the world.
    And by give up, actually give up. Don’t try to keep embassies or a skeleton crew of US personnel on the ground. Pack the up and don’t look back.

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    Bottom line is the US needs to just give up on trying to bring "democracy" to these holes around the world.
    When President Trump said this exact same thing you all called him everything but a white man. You'd have none of it, till now.

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    And by give up, actually give up. Don’t try to keep embassies or a skeleton crew of US personnel on the ground. Pack the up and don’t look back.
    That is where Biden is so torn. He wants to go back in there with and strafe the out of 'em for old time's sake. It'll be interesting to see if he can restrain himself as he takes it easy on holiday.

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    When President Trump said this exact same thing you all called him everything but a white man. You'd have none of it, till now.
    Foreign policy was never something I criticized Trump for, I welcomed it when he fired heads like Mattis. On the contrary I even warned in 2016 that Trump being less of an interventionist than Hillary would cost her votes.

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    CNN used to love to show these type moments. Not this time. Everything is under wraps. Same with FOX, they ain't no better, the mother ers.
    because giving away videos of troops on air endangers american lives, for s sake thread lets try to keep american loss to a minimum.

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    That is where Biden is so torn. He wants to go back in there with and strafe the out of 'em for old time's sake. It'll be interesting to see if he can restrain himself as he takes it easy on holiday.
    I think Biden wants to get the out. He wanted to when Obama was president and Obama ignored him.

    His big up was believing the generals and intelligence that the Afghan army would hold up for 90 days before losing Kabul such that there was no need to rush evacuating US personnel. He gave the generals the middle finger on everything but trusted them on that, and now he’s got a foreign policy sandwich that needs eating.

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    When President Trump said this exact same thing you all called him everything but a white man. You'd have none of it, till now.
    Bull . I've said it for years.

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    Kabul falling and with hundreds of stations on TV I can't find anyone covering it. WTF?

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    Kabul falling and with hundreds of stations on TV I can't find anyone covering it. WTF?
    Tapper had Blinken on earlier and Blinken looked like a fool.

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    Bull . I've said it for years.
    Let's not argue this morning, CC, I've already cited you and I don't want to have to walk that back. Savvy?

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    Kabul falling and with hundreds of stations on TV I can't find anyone covering it. WTF?
    Damn right, not while Biden is Pres...nuff said.

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    I think Biden wants to get the out. He wanted to when Obama was president and Obama ignored him.

    His big up was believing the generals and intelligence that the Afghan army would hold up for 90 days before losing Kabul such that there was no need to rush evacuating US personnel. He gave the generals the middle finger on everything but trusted them on that, and now he’s got a foreign policy sandwich that needs eating.
    And thank God he did up. Otherwise he'd be feted and lauded. I do not believe I could have stood that, Will.

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    Shelter in place guidance given to US citizens, US Embassy no longer taking phone calls


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    Meanwhile in the sophisticated democratic paradise that is USA




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    Shelter in place guidance given to US citizens, US Embassy no longer taking phone calls

    heads need to roll over this debacle. everyone should have been evacuated in the months leading up to this

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    Meanwhile in the sophisticated democratic paradise that is USA



    Nearly everyone obese

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    one unofficial tally of US citizens still there is ~3000

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    Nearly everyone obese
    Nearly?

    If I had the time and will Id repost this video but replace the sound with sounds from a pig sty

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