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    LOL Trump s calling anyone else low information voters. Your party and its base thinks Trump won in 2020.
    It's the logical result of their media consumption and the overwhelming bias the media has in the favor of dems. It's difficult for conservatives to avoid leftwing perspective. There are a lot more low information default dems as a result of this environment. Sorry to burst your worldview.

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    It’s in the best interest of a functioning democracy.

    what if Dems starting passing laws making it harder for conservatives to vote? It’s a ty, undemocratic tactic that only one party engages in
    Conservatives don't make it difficult to vote. They just don't shove ballots in the ass of people that don't care about voting.

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    If you want to vote get off your ass or request a ballot. That's not difficult. Stop trying to spin that narrative.

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    Conservatives don't make it difficult to vote. They just don't shove ballots in the ass of people that don't care about voting.
    You didn't answer his question.

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    A democracy doesn't function best by getting ballots in the hands of a ton of uninitiated people so one of their family members can tell them who to vote for.

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    A democracy doesn't function best by getting ballots in the hands of a ton of uninitiated people so one of their family members can tell them who to vote for.
    Why not? Exercising the right to vote is indeed the best way to strengthen democracy. Ultimately none of those family members are at the ballot box to vote for him/her.

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    Why not? Exercising the right to vote is indeed the best way to strengthen democracy. Ultimately none of those family members are at the ballot box to vote for him/her.
    I'm not taking away the right to vote. None of my comments pertain to people going to the ballot box. That's the bare minimum standard that seems to be position as "making it difficult to vote".

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    I'm not taking away the right to vote. None of my comments pertain to people going to the ballot box. That's the bare minimum standard that seems to be position as "making it difficult to vote".
    When you start erecting certain artificial barriers that separate people from the ballot box, then it effectively makes it more difficult to vote (than if those barriers wouldn't be there).

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    It's the logical result of their media consumption and the overwhelming bias the media has in the favor of dems. It's difficult for conservatives to avoid leftwing perspective. There are a lot more low information default dems as a result of this environment. Sorry to burst your worldview.
    LOL Trump s calling anyone else low information voters. Your party and its base thinks Trump won in 2020.

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    It's the logical result of their media consumption and the overwhelming bias the media has in the favor of dems. It's difficult for conservatives to avoid leftwing perspective. There are a lot more low information default dems as a result of this environment. Sorry to burst your worldview.
    you went from Bernie to Trump. It doesn’t get more low information than that.

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    LOL Trump s calling anyone else low information voters. Your party and its base thinks Trump won in 2020.
    True

    But democrats think Russia chose our president in 2016

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    Why not? Exercising the right to vote is indeed the best way to strengthen democracy. Ultimately none of those family members are at the ballot box to vote for him/her.
    It runs down the road of ballot harvesting. Walking into nursing homes and 'helping' those dementia patients fill out their ballots. Or worse, just filling it out for them without their knowledge.

    And oh, I don't like this batch that voted (R) let me just dump them in the river.

    So many able bodied people were out and about during the pandemic shopping, or getting ther poodle shampooed or whatever, but taking 30 minutes(often less) to go early vote was too much of a hassle for them. They need mail in ballots.

    The only issue that smelled funny was the GA provision eliminating Sunday early voting, which was eventually retracted.
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    It runs done the road of ballot harvesting. Walking into nursing homes and 'helping' those dementia patients fill out their ballots. Or worse, just filling it out for them without their knowledge.

    And oh, I don't like this batch that voted (R) let me just dump them in the river.

    So many able bodied people were out and about during the pandemic shopping, or getting ther poodle shampooed or whatever, but taking 30 minutes(often less) to go early vote was too much of a hassle for them. They need mail in ballots.

    The only issue that smelled funny was the GA provision eliminating Sunday early voting, which was eventually retracted.
    Thinking all these voting laws are just about harvesting

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    Thinking all these voting laws are just about harvesting
    Permitting weeks of early voting days is 'voter suppression'

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    It runs done the road of ballot harvesting. Walking into nursing homes and 'helping' those dementia patients fill out their ballots. Or worse, just filling it out for them without their knowledge.

    And oh, I don't like this batch that voted (R) let me just dump them in the river.

    So many able bodied people were out and about during the pandemic shopping, or getting ther poodle shampooed or whatever, but taking 30 minutes(often less) to go early vote was too much of a hassle for them. They need mail in ballots.

    The only issue that smelled funny was the GA provision eliminating Sunday early voting, which was eventually retracted.
    pretending the lines to vote in Atlanta aren't 4 hours long

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    Thinking all these voting laws are just about harvesting
    him pretending to be one of those "sane" Republicans while parroting conspiracy theories about dumping ballots in the river.

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    I'd be perfectly fine with banning universal mail in voting but on the condition that there's 2 weeks of mandatory early voting, e-day gets made a national holiday, and there's strict rules limiting the # of voters / precinct and mandating a certain amount of voting machines and election workers are allocated to each precinct. Until Republicans start supporting that, I'm going to assume their gripe with mail-in voting is a bad faith attempt to force urban voters to wait in line for 4 hours to vote.

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    I'd be perfectly fine with banning universal mail in voting but on the condition that there's 2 weeks of mandatory early voting, e-day gets made a national holiday, and there's strict rules limiting the # of voters / precinct and mandating a certain amount of voting machines and election workers are allocated to each precinct. Until Republicans start supporting that, I'm going to assume their gripe with mail-in voting is a bad faith attempt to force urban voters to wait in line for 4 hours to vote.
    4 Hours of standing in line myth. That's only true if you are a lazy azz who procrastinates and waits till election day.

    I think some of that stuff you mentioned in this post could actually get bipartisan support on, like making E-day a holiday. Romney and a few others would be on board. But poison pills like no ID necessary would kill any of that legislation.

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    4 Hours of standing in line myth. That's only true if you are a lazy azz who procrastinates and waits till election day.

    I think some of that stuff you mentioned in this post could actually get bipartisan support on, like making E-day a holiday. Romney and a few others would be on board. But poison pills like no ID necessary would kill any of that legislation.
    So that's where I think Republicans act in bad faith. People shouldn't be penalized for "procrastinating" (that argument is also re ed when there's plenty of states that have no early voting or mail in voting and make it so waiting in line on election day is literally the only way to vote). I think there's some merit to the argument that apathetic people shouldn't be getting an involuntary mail-in ballot that their family members will tell them how to fill out, but if someone is making a trip to the polls to vote, there's no valid argument for why they should have to wait in line for >15 minutes. They clearly want to vote and no one is filling their ballot out for them, a healthy democracy should make it easy to vote for someone like that.

    I'm also fine with voter ID as long as it's coupled with a federalized ID program that makes it so people can easily get an ID / a provisional ballot system where people who forget their ID can fill out a provisional ballot and provide their social security number that election officials can then cross check to make sure that person isn't voting twice. That being said, when Scott Walker passes a voter ID law requiring a state issued ID and then simultaneously cuts Wisconsin DMV service hours such that people end up having to wait longer to get a state issued ID, or when North Dakota passes a voter ID law requiring an ID with an official address knowing full well there's a large Native American population in ND that would never be able to comply with that ID requirement, no one is going to convince me it's not a bad faith attempt to make it harder for certain people to vote.

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    catch-all term to describe anything conservatives don't like

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    Nuthin89 agitating for "quality voters" aka rural white males only

    white racist billionaire ran on the racist LIE of CRT in Confederate slave state, and won.

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