voting rights hyperbole

[CosmicCowboy]

paves the way for implementation of Texas’ voter ID law

If every state were like this, great.

I'm glad we settled this thing that was settled eight years ago.

Now why do you want to make it more difficult to vote than it was in 2020?

The false narrative of "making it difficult to vote" is total bull . The issue is unelected federal bureaucrats gerrymandering state elections.

[boutons_deux]

OPPOSE VOTER ID LEGISLATION - FACT SHEET

https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

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Debunking Misinformation on Photo ID

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...ation-photo-id

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Repugs are rabid about voter ID because they know it's voter suppression tactic.

[ChumpDumper]

The false narrative of "making it difficult to vote" is total bull . The issue is unelected federal bureaucrats gerrymandering state elections.

Why did the TX legislature change voting from how it was in 2020?

Be honest.

[Will Hunting]

The false narrative of "making it difficult to vote" is total bull . The issue is unelected federal bureaucrats gerrymandering state elections.

Ah yes, can't imagine how awful it would be if federal bureaucrats came in and changed those wholesome, fair maps the TX state leg passed that definitely aren't already gerrymandered.

[Will Hunting]

Why did the TX legislature change voting from how it was in 2020?

Be honest.

Also why did it decide to draw a congressional district like this

[CosmicCowboy]

Why did the TX legislature change voting from how it was in 2020?

Be honest.

I'm not as outraged as you are...from what I remember it was mostly to prevent counties deviating from uniform state guidelines.

[CosmicCowboy]

Ah yes, can't imagine how awful it would be if federal bureaucrats came in and changed those wholesome, fair maps the TX state leg passed that definitely aren't already gerrymandered.

That pendulum swings both ways. You assume democrats in Washington will with Republican boundaries. It can work the opposite as well.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm not as outraged as you are...

No reason for an old white Republican man to be outraged. Especially a disingenuous one.

from what I remember it was mostly to prevent counties deviating from uniform state guidelines.

What "uniform state guidelines"?

[Will Hunting]

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[Leetonidas]

i find it comical how restrictive the right wants voting procedures to be versus being able to get a gun. but we all know why, the only way the right can win elections is by making sure not everyone votes

[CosmicCowboy]

i find it comical how restrictive the right wants voting procedures to be versus being able to get a gun. but we all know why, the only way the right can win elections is by making sure not everyone votes

Try getting a new gun without an ID, a background check, and a waiting period.

[Winehole23]

That pendulum swings both ways. You assume democrats in Washington will with Republican boundaries. It can work the opposite as well.

On straight majority voting?

You require supermajority or coalition voting for voting rights but not screwjob partisan gerrymanders? Seems inconsistent.

[Will Hunting]

That pendulum swings both ways. You assume democrats in Washington will with Republican boundaries. It can work the opposite as well.

I'm fine with that. I'd much prefer guidelines that create fair maps for all 50 states over what we have new.

Also the proposed voting rights act being discussed doesn't give anyone in Washington power to redraw a map, it creates guidelines that private citizens can sue over in court.

I think any law that vested federal politicians with the authority to draw maps would be uncons utional.

[Leetonidas]

Try getting a new gun without an ID, a background check, and a waiting period.

I didn't say you didn't need an ID, but it was pretty simple tbh. I walked into Academy a few weeks ago and bought one, took me about 15 minutes


also, if you're buying at a gun show, do you even need an ID or background check? srs question

[Will Hunting]

Some of the most productive house reps ever were red state Democrats and blue state Republicans - the fact nearly all of them have been gerrymandered out of existence has certainly contributed to how dysfunctional congress is.

[baseline bum]

Some on the left are saying this is just another Biden ruse, like BBB, to keep the left from turning on Dems and Biden has no intention of this passing. Manchin and Sinema will take the lead on preventing it from passing because it helps them politically and the other establishment types can claim gosh we really tried so as to avoid primary challenges from the left.

Yeah probably, Democrats are the ing US Tories. Still better than voting for the US Nazis on the other side though.

[Will Hunting]

Some on the left are saying this is just another Biden ruse, like BBB, to keep the left from turning on Dems and Biden has no intention of this passing. Manchin and Sinema will take the lead on preventing it from passing because it helps them politically and the other establishment types can claim gosh we really tried so as to avoid primary challenges from the left.

That's because it is. BBB is as good as dead, so Biden & co. are trying to distract the base to pointing to something shiny.

If it weren't Manchin and Sinema, it'd be Mark Warner and Chris Coomer as the 51st and 52nd votes against BBB.

Sinema even said the other day that she was sick of other centrist Dems in the senate who she personally knows don't personally want to pass BBB "hiding behind her skirt".

[Will Hunting]

Yeah probably, Democrats are the ing US Tories. Still better than voting for the US Nazis on the other side though.

The only things the Democratic Party is actual liberal on are the stupid things (muh trans rights, muh immigrants, muh police brutality against crackheads who don't comply, muh LGBTQ+ or whatever the it is these days, etc.).

[Ef-man]

I didn't say you didn't need an ID, but it was pretty simple tbh. I walked into Academy a few weeks ago and bought one, took me about 15 minutes


also, if you're buying at a gun show, do you even need an ID or background check? srs question

Try Texas guntrader.

See ad, meet person, exchange money for gun and done through private sale.

Person could ask, are you legally not able to make purchase but answer will always be no.

[baseline bum]

The only things the Democratic Party is actual liberal on are the stupid things (muh trans rights, muh immigrants, muh police brutality against crackheads who don't comply, muh LGBTQ+ or whatever the it is these days, etc.).

Even ing Elizabeth Warren pulling the woman card on Bernie. JFC what a show of a party.

[CosmicCowboy]

I'm fine with that. I'd much prefer guidelines that create fair maps for all 50 states over what we have new.

Also the proposed voting rights act being discussed doesn't give anyone in Washington power to redraw a map, it creates guidelines that private citizens can sue over in court.

I think any law that vested federal politicians with the authority to draw maps would be uncons utional.

That is essentially what sections 2400-2455 of the "For the People" act does.

[koriwhat]

Sample size of 2. And one was mixed.

That was actually funny but def wrong.

[koriwhat]

Arizona college students threatened to go on a second hunger strike if Congress doesn't pass the Democrat-led voting legislation by Jan. 17.

"We're prepared to hold out indefinitely now that the holidays are over," Leila Winbury, a junior at Arizona State University, told Fox News Digital. "I have seen the consequences of a broken democracy my entire life, so we're willing to suffer the consequences of hunger striking rather than the consequences of the bill not passing."

She said the next hunger strike will be "a lot bigger" than the 15-day one organized in December.

"Nationwide hunger-striking, more than likely," she noted.

Let them ing starve!

[Will Hunting]

That is essentially what sections 2400-2455 of the "For the People" act does.

I'm talking about the freedom to vote act's provisions but yes the FTPA's redistricting sections were cons utionally dicey even though that's not really what they were doing. There's federal cons utional authority to create guidelines over how districts are drawn, but the cons utional also says that the state leg in each state is ultimately responsible for drawing the districts, so there's gray area as to whether congress can go as far as usurping power by mandating an independent commission draws the map in every state.

[Will Hunting]

Even ing Elizabeth Warren pulling the woman card on Bernie. JFC what a show of a party.

Now that I've lived in DC for a few years and seen it up close, the conclusion I've come to is that a big problem with the party is who the staffers are. The average Dem congressional staffer / DNC staffer is completely out of touch with the average Democratic voter and got involved in politics because of some niche social justice issue no one gives a about.