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    I get the impression he dislikes lots of his roster (outside a few guys like Malcom), and part of the deal for him was that he would get say in its turnover. Who knows, he’s probably over the moon to get rid of LaVert
    I kinda feel the same... I think Rick knew what he class walking into and wanted to embrace a rebuild for some reason.

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    I know I’m gonna catch a lot of flak for this but I kinda wish the spurs would gamble on Marvin Bagley just to see if there’s anything there. I doubt the spurs take a chance with his dad being a problem and stuff
    I'm not against that either but, I'd only look at if this summer if there's a reasonable price with a new contract. I wouldn't give up an asset for him now.

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    Spurs are a bottom NBA team and still won't make risky moves, it would be the perfect time to do it while we suck and go for the high risk high reward

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    2021 Examples of RFA’s who switched teams:

    Lonzo Ball
    Markkanen
    Devonte Graham
    Hinton

    It is a short list from a group of over 30+ RFA’s.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Spurs go after Kyle Anderson or Dorian Finney Smith
    Yikes. I don’t trust PATFO with cap space. It’s knly going tk take a few off-seasons till have 80 mm tied up in guys like McDermott and Kyle Anderson and Joe Ingles.

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    Yikes. I don’t trust PATFO with cap space. It’s knly going tk take a few off-seasons till have 80 mm tied up in guys like McDermott and Kyle Anderson and Joe Ingles.
    Unless you’re signing a marquee future HOF player to your team, free agency signings are overrated. Look at the teams who’ve won every year for the last several decades and you’ll see that for those teams it wasn’t the free agency signing that catapulted them, it was their franchise player they drafted and one or two trades for a supporting cast that did. LeBron, Durant, Shaq aren’t walking through that door and last year (or this year’s) free agency had no one of that caliber. Free agency should be treated in an opportunistic, but flexible lens — get players that will get you by for now and if you plan well, then you have the perfect role players when your franchise players arrive via draft or trade (likely through draft).
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    RISKY RewRDS?????? glad there's some web geniuses who know what's what. Specify what risks you want the team to make. Drafting a 17 year old...tame, trading for an injury prone PF? lame. Getting extra draft picks, no....i want MOAR RISK......leverage this team to the gills

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    Financial ramifications for 2022/23:

    Cleveland: $125.5M in total salary (tax is $147M)

    * C. Sexton is a RFA

    Indiana: $94.6M in salary ($26M below the cap)

    The Pacers join Detroit, Orlando and San Antonio as teams with significant room in the offseason.

    Bobby Marks
    Even though the Spurs are a small market team, I would have to think they would still be a preferable destination over Detroit and Indiana. Maybe not Orlando, though that is a perpetually dysfunctional organization.

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    I know I’m gonna catch a lot of flak for this but I kinda wish the spurs would gamble on Marvin Bagley just to see if there’s anything there. I doubt the spurs take a chance with his dad being a problem and stuff
    It’s the yappy social media dad, but it’s also the fact that his first three years were carbon copies. 14/7. He never improved. He’s slid backwards this year to 9/7.

    Some guys are just happy being in the league, and those guys should never be higher than your 10th man, nor paid very much. Former high draft picks never adapt to that.

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    Spurs are a bottom NBA team and still won't make risky moves, it would be the perfect time to do it while we suck and go for the high risk high reward
    You don’t think Zollins was a risky move? They guaranteed $10.5M for a guy who had 3 ankle surgeries.

    The risky move most might be averse to is brining in talent with at udes. That I’m never on board with. It’s hard enough building a new team without throwing snakes into the locker room.

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    It’s the yappy social media dad, but it’s also the fact that his first three years were carbon copies. 14/7. He never improved. He’s slid backwards this year to 9/7.

    Some guys are just happy being in the league, and those guys should never be higher than your 10th man, nor paid very much. Former high draft picks never adapt to that.
    You’re probably right, the only argument that favors him is the kings are a pretty bad organization and he’s still only 22.

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    You’re probably right, the only argument that favors him is the kings are a pretty bad organization and he’s still only 22.
    He has no drive.

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    A change of scenery and better culture could change that.

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    A change of scenery and better culture could change that.
    Doubtful. Even Pop admits that he can’t change players, which is why they get players that they think will work. Jalen Smith would be a better option.

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    I am seeing several articles saying the raptors really want Poeltl and would give up a first. Sounds like the Spurs are rejecting that. I wonder if it gets upgraded to 2 first or the first and a player the Spurs are seeking.

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    I believe it. Don’t think Spurs would be willing to give up what it would take to get either of them though tbh. Just PATFO doing their due diligence.


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    I believe it. Don’t think Spurs would be willing to give up what it would take to get either of them though tbh. Just PATFO doing their due diligence.


    Not that I particularly want either, but they could make it a three team trade with the Raptors.

    Spurs: Turner
    Raptors: Poeltl, Young
    Pacers: Dragic, Bulls first, Raptors protected first

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    Not that I particularly want either, but they could make it a three team trade with the Raptors.

    Spurs: Turner
    Raptors: Poeltl, Young
    Pacers: Dragic, Bulls first, Raptors protected first
    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire . It would be interesting days ahead. They’re not playing until 9th, and could be a new player(s) before then. Just when I’m starting to like Poeltl. But he would need a good pnr PG to get him going.

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    Should we have dangled White for Lavert?

    Or no way was Indy taking on years. They were looking to shred them and get picks.

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    Should we have dangled White for Lavert?

    Or no way was Indy taking on years. They were looking to shred them and get picks.
    White >>> Lavert

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    Is this serious? They apparently want the equivalent of the Vucevic package, which was Carter Jr., 1st (became 8th pick which became Wagner) and a '23 top 4 protected 1st.
    I was just tryin to figure out which salaries match since I don't think a rebuilding team would be interested in White. Obviously more picks would need to be included, but I couldn't find out what Indiana's asking price was. Spurs would be able to include 2 FRP's though and got a bunch of 2nds to throw in also. With players like Sabonis and Collins available the Spurs should really try to fix the hole at PF now rather than in free agency

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    I was just tryin to figure out which salaries match since I don't think a rebuilding team would be interested in White. Obviously more picks would need to be included, but I couldn't find out what Indiana's asking price was. Spurs would be able to include 2 FRP's though and got a bunch of 2nds to throw in also. With players like Sabonis and Collins available the Spurs should really try to fix the hole at PF now rather than in free agency
    Sabonis is not a 4, which is why the pairing with Turner never worked.

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    Sabonis is not a 4, which is why the pairing with Turner never worked.
    yea I know, that's why I said he would be an odd fit. He doesn't fit next to Poeltl and can't protect the rim as a 5. Turner makes more sense if Poeltl gets moved. Reportedly the Spurs are interested in both, but I'm not sure if any of the 2 would really improve the team

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    I’m down for either Sabonis or Turner, hard to see how a deal would workout tho unless it’s strictly a picks package

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    I’m down for either Sabonis or Turner, hard to see how a deal would workout tho unless it’s strictly a picks package
    Neither can play the 4. Not even a little.

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    Neither can play the 4. Not even a little.
    Probably why the spurs are taking calls on Jakob

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