Spurs Trade Rumor Thread (Spurs eyeing Collins, Osman? Fielding calls on Jak?)

[Degoat]

I think I saw somewhere that Taurean Prince wants a buyout if he’s traded somewhere lol which I guess is fine it’s the pick that we would want anyways

[r0drig0lac]

he clearly only watches stat lines on bballref. Spurs fans wanting Sabonis or Randle but not John Collins is hilarious. Shows how much they know about the game

there was no comparison with between the game of rubio and haliburton, that was just you getting carried away by the quoted post, and I agree, that most of you only look at boxscore and watch SA games, the difference is that in this case you decided to believe in a line of development that will possibly never occur, and no, you don't watch Sacramento Kings games.

[LeBowen]

there was no comparison with between the game of rubio and haliburton, that was just you getting carried away by the quoted post, and I agree, that most of you only look at boxscore and watch SA games, the difference is that in this case you decided to believe in a line of development that will possibly never occur, and no, you don't watch Sacramento Kings games.

How's his potential abstract? Can't find the post with the stats, but he's among the best in the league at pullup threes. And we could argue his stats could've been even better if he wasn't stuck in a similar situation to Derrick's.

He's 21 and already a very good player, nothing abstract about that. And you compare him with Rubio of all people.


Anyhow, I don't think anything major happens at the deadline. If we're lucky maybe we get a decent pick for Thad.

[RC_Drunkford]

there was no comparison with between the game of rubio and haliburton, that was just you getting carried away by the quoted post, and I agree, that most of you only look at boxscore and watch SA games, the difference is that in this case you decided to believe in a line of development that will possibly never occur, and no, you don't watch Sacramento Kings games.

apparently you don't watch Indiana Pacers games neither if you think Sabonis is that valuable, which is who I was actually talking about when I said you're looking at stats

[T Park]

Something like D White, Thad, Lonnie Walker IV for Randle and Kemba Walker. Poop loved coaching Kemba for Team USA. Keep him around as the bench vet. Basically White for Randle with the Knicks freeing up about 12M salary next year.

Yuck

[RC_Drunkford]

Anyhow, I don't think anything major happens at the deadline. If we're lucky maybe we get a decent pick for Thad.

seems like there is a 2nd rounder attached to both packages from the Suns and TWolves. Spurs would probably want a first, but I think they take one of the deals to at least get something out of it. I'd rather take the Suns deal and try to flip Saric into another asset next season

[Chomag]

If our roster is so good like some here are acting like then why are the Spurs one of the worst teams in the league? Man People are so scared of trading that they will overhyped mediocrity to justify not trading.

[r0drig0lac]

apparently you don't watch Indiana Pacers games neither if you think Sabonis is that valuable, which is who I was actually talking about when I said you're looking at stats

It doesn't matter if he's that valuable or mediocre in my opinion (honestly that wasn't the point here), it was just that he was obviously the most valuable player in the trade, if that's not true in 1 day, 1 month, or 1 century, whatever (depends on the evolution curve of both players, because Sabonis is only 25).

[Leetonidas]

Yea no to Julius Randle. Vastly overpaid, one-dimensional, underachieving player who I want nothing to do with. Don’t let his random big scoring games fool you, he’s nowhere near a max player. There’s a reason NYK are shopping him already just one year after giving him all that money.

Besides that, he’s mentally weak. Gets frustrated too easily and starts ing at the refs instead of getting back on D. Does this often. Hard pass.

This. No thanks to Randle. He proved last season he is a fake star and got in embarrassed in the playoffs

[Dex]

Two more days to disappointment.

Prepare yourselves.

[baseline bum]

This. No thanks to Randle. He proved last season he is a fake star and got in embarrassed in the playoffs

No one would have paid any attention to him last season if he was still in New Orleans. Crazy how having a good but far from great season in New York gets one so overhyped.

[MannyIsGod]

No thanks to any randle trade. Dude is mentally weak af

[timtonymanu]

Two more days to disappointment.

Prepare yourselves.

You mean I can’t be excited about a potential White/Lonnie/Poeltl for Trae/John Collins swap.

[poopbox]

Regardless, they traded by far their best asset who may end up better than either Fox or Sabonis and got a pretty meh return. Sabonis is a good player but Sac FO is inept either way so that team isn't going anywhere. Sabonis had more talent around him in Indy and haven't been in the playoff picture the last 2 years.

In the end they made a panic move to win now and traded their best asset to do it and will likely still either miss the playoffs, get to the play in game and lose, or lose in the first round. Should have just kept Haliburton and kept looking for deals for Fox. Panic move to win now wasn't the solution IMHO

I don't disagree with any of this. It's just that people try and frame this trade as they could have traded fox or haliburton and they chose haliburton. I'm of the mind they never could have traded fox cause nobody wants to pay max money for a volume shooting bad defensive point guard. So it was always going to be trade haliburton or trade neither. I agree that they most definitely should not have traded him for a possible two year rental like Sabonis. Wouldn't surprise me if Sabonis was traded again next year.

[John B]

The Sacramento Kings want to move Marvin Bagley ‘bad,’ per steveBHoop

6’10” 7’1 wingspan, 22 years old. Do we want this guy? I think he has more upside than Poeltl and just needs a change of environment.

[MannyIsGod]

I would not give up anything but a 2nd for Bagley and even that feels steep.

[mo7888]

The Sacramento Kings want to move Marvin Bagley ‘bad,’ per steveBHoop

6’10” 7’1 wingspan, 22 years old. Do we want this guy? I think he has more upside than Poeltl and just needs a change of environment.

I think it's better to wait and see how much he'll cost in FA (if we think he's salvageable and I'm not convinced of that)...if I were to trade now I might give them Thad for him but nothing else.... they might even accept that since they are trying to make the play in.

[baseline bum]

I don't disagree with any of this. It's just that people try and frame this trade as they could have traded fox or haliburton and they chose haliburton. I'm of the mind they never could have traded fox cause nobody wants to pay max money for a volume shooting bad defensive point guard. So it was always going to be trade haliburton or trade neither. I agree that they most definitely should not have traded him for a possible two year rental like Sabonis. Wouldn't surprise me if Sabonis was traded again next year.

They could have found someone if Washington was able to get value out of trading Westbrook.

[MannyIsGod]

I don't disagree with any of this. It's just that people try and frame this trade as they could have traded fox or haliburton and they chose haliburton. I'm of the mind they never could have traded fox cause nobody wants to pay max money for a volume shooting bad defensive point guard. So it was always going to be trade haliburton or trade neither. I agree that they most definitely should not have traded him for a possible two year rental like Sabonis. Wouldn't surprise me if Sabonis was traded again next year.

Disagree there is no market for fox. Salary dumping him with a future pick.is better than trading away haliburton imo. Kings just make bad decisions each time.

[RC_Drunkford]

It doesn't matter if he's that valuable or mediocre in my opinion (honestly that wasn't the point here), it was just that he was obviously the most valuable player in the trade, if that's not true in 1 day, 1 month, or 1 century, whatever (depends on the evolution curve of both players, because Sabonis is only 25).

Sabonis won't magically grow and become a shotblocker. He's super efficient on offense, yet Derrick White blocks twice as many shots as him. He's a fake star who hurts his team on the defensive end no matter how good he is on offense. Pacers and Kings basically swapped their best players, but Haliburton is not a defensive liability and a better shooter. Therefore he's a better piece, besides being younger and on a cheaper contract

[poopbox]

The Sacramento Kings want to move Marvin Bagley ‘bad,’ per steveBHoop

6’10” 7’1 wingspan, 22 years old. Do we want this guy? I think he has more upside than Poeltl and just needs a change of environment.

If all Bagley cost us is something we won't have next year anyway, like thad or lonnie, and is not important like a second round pick, you absolutely trade for him. There is no doubt he has talent, and the kings are arguably the worst ran franchise in the nba...most players who go there play the worst basketball of their career...most players who leave there end up playing well somewhere else. This is the exact type of move the spurs should be looking to make while they themselves are considered better than the kings only because they haven't been ing up for as many years and haven't been bad as long. Whoever gets Bagley is going to get a player who is eager to prove how good he really is since he has spent years watching his peers like Trae and Luka lead teams and reap awards and accolades. Depending on how you feel about vassel and primo I might even be willing to do White for Bagley, even though we know the spurs would never do that. Or really ever make any impactful trade at all. Last time they did it ended their playoff streak and the Raptors won the only le they will ever have.

[poopbox]

Disagree there is no market for fox. Salary dumping him with a future pick.is better than trading away haliburton imo. Kings just make bad decisions each time.

If you have to salary dump him with a future pick then that inherently means there was no market for him, since at that point you are paying someone in asset just to take him.

[John B]

If all Bagley cost us is something we won't have next year anyway, like thad or lonnie, and is not important like a second round pick, you absolutely trade for him. There is no doubt he has talent, and the kings are arguably the worst ran franchise in the nba...most players who go there play the worst basketball of their career...most players who leave there end up playing well somewhere else. This is the exact type of move the spurs should be looking to make while they themselves are considered better than the kings only because they haven't been ing up for as many years and haven't been bad as long. Whoever gets Bagley is going to get a player who is eager to prove how good he really is since he has spent years watching his peers like Trae and Luka lead teams and reap awards and accolades. Depending on how you feel about vassel and primo I might even be willing to do White for Bagley, even though we know the spurs would never do that. Or really ever make any impactful trade at all. Last time they did it ended their playoff streak and the Raptors won the only le they will ever have.

I really don’t know what Kings are doing. But they’re bringing veteran players, and they just lost Haliburton. White could make sense.

[r0drig0lac]

Sabonis won't magically grow and become a shotblocker. He's super efficient on offense, yet Derrick White blocks twice as many shots as him. He's a fake star who hurts his team on the defensive end no matter how good he is on offense. Pacers and Kings basically swapped their best players, but Haliburton is not a defensive liability and a better shooter. Therefore he's a better piece, besides being younger and on a cheaper contract

at least this time, your opinion came without projections, i still disagree and i have no problem with it (or care), anyway the guy who was 2x star before his 25th has a few years to evolve his game (or not), and he's still the only player in that conversation to have produced in this level ever in his life.

[mo7888]

I really don’t know what Kings are doing. But they’re bringing veteran players, and they just lost Haliburton. White could make sense.

White? For what?