Marjon Beuchamp is pretty interesting , even top 10. Older prospect whose development was stunted because of a bad decision forgoing college and covid. Looks the part of an all-defensive wing out there with strength, frame and wingspan. Likes the spurs and is from seattle.
Makes me a little nervous about the quality of the rest of this draft if K. Murray, at near 22 by draft day, is consistently in the Top 8. Hopefully its more a reflection that he still loads of untapped potential, and not that he's a near finished product ala Duarte last year.
I don't know how good a draft this is. To me it seems middling. But Murray pops into the top potential 8 because he's really good and putting up big numbers. As I've said, he's the type of player who used to get drafted in those spots without regard to age. The NBA draft has turned into a nursery.
I understand why GMs shy away from older draftees-- their success rate is definitely lower in this day & age when most of the best college players leave after year one or two-- but I don't think it's absolute. I look at Dejounte, and he's just peaking now at age 25. It looks like K. Murray made the right decision to do a postgraduate year at a basketball academy after high school, so I can see how he might be an outlier as a relatively late bloomer. His numbers in his sop re year are off the charts, and he actually looks interested in playing defense, unlike Obi Toppin, who I've seen some scouts compare him to, as a scorer.
Man, the draft evaluation process is so interesting and complex. Of Murray, Eason, and Kendall Brown, Murray looks like the best and most mature right now, but he's also the oldest. Eason looks great but he comes off as kind of awkward in interviews, and has what seems like a very strange relationship with his teammates. I love his defensive intensity, but something about his personality gives me bad vibes. Brown is the youngest and has serious impact when he's on the floor, but doesn't like to shoot jumpers at all... so maybe he becomes a Scottie Barnes-like player? He's also the youngest, and his freshman impact stats are far ahead of Murray's and Eason's as freshmen. It's so hard to tell at this point, and I've gone back and forth on those three in the last few weeks.
Tari’s mom pinned tweet… She appears to be the most important person in his life.
Both show DJ a lot of love fwiw.
I'm totally fine with Tari being a weirdo.
Pop might draft him on politics alone tbh.
Jabari Smith, Balonchero, Johnny Davis, Tari Eason, & TyTy Washington all play tonight. Good night of college hoops.
The other thing is defense tends to translate better from college to the NBA than offense, and Tari's D rates high. So, if he's a 6'8" Matisse Thybulle + offense, that could be incredible.
This came out today on ESPN+
Jonathan Givony's NBA mock draft
1. Detroit Pistons
Chet Holmgren | Gonzaga | 7-0 | PF | Age: 19.8
2. Orlando Magic
Jabari Smith | Auburn | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.7
3. Houston Rockets
Paolo Banchero | Duke | 6-10 | PF/C | Age: 19.2
4. Indiana Pacers
Jaden Ivey | Purdue | 6-4 | PG/SG | Age: 20.0
5. Sacramento Kings
AJ Griffin | Duke 6-6 | SF/PF | Age: 18.4
6. Oklahoma City Thunder
Jalen Duren | Memphis | 6-10 | C | Age:18.2
7. New York Knicks
Johnny Davis | Wisconsin | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age:19.9
8. San Antonio Spurs
Shaedon Sharpe | Kentucky | 6-6 | SG | Age: 18.7
9. Portland Trail Blazers
Keegan Murray | Iowa | 6-9 | PF/C | Age: 21.5
10. Portland Trail Blazers (from Pelicans)
TyTy Washington Jr. | Kentucky | 6-4 | PG/SG | Age: 20.2
11. Washington Wizards
Bennedict Mathurin | Arizona | 6- 6 | SF | Age: 19.6
12. Memphis Grizzlies (from Lakers)Dyson Daniels | G League Ignite | 6-6 | PG/SG | Age: 18.9
13. Charlotte Hornets (Hawks if 19-30)
Ochai Agbaji | Kansas | 6-6 | SF | Age: 21.8
14. Atlanta Hawks
E.J. Liddell | Ohio St | 6-7 | PF | Age: 21.1
15. Houston Rockets (from Nets)
MarJon Beauchamp | G League Ignite | 6-6 | SG/SF | Age:21.3
16. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Clippers)
Tari Eason | LSU | 6-8 | PF | Age: 20.7
17. Minnesota Timberwolves
Kendall Brown | Baylor | 6-8 | SF | Age: 18.7
18. San Antonio Spurs (from Raptors)
Walker Kessler | Auburn | 7-1 | C | Age: 20.5
19. Indiana Pacers (from Cavaliers)
Ousmane Dieng | NZ Breakers | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.7
20. Brooklyn Nets (from 76ers)
Jean Montero | Overtime Elite | 6-2 | PG/SG | Age: 18.6
21. San Antonio Spurs (from Celtics)
Nikola Jovic | Mega Mozzart | 6-10 | SF | Age: 18.7
22. Dallas Mavericks
Jaden Hardy | G League Ignite | 6-4 | SG | Age: 19.6
23. Milwaukee Bucks
Mark Williams | Duke | 6-10 | C | Age: 20.1
24. Chicago Bulls
Trevor Keels | Duke | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age: 18.4
25. Denver Nuggets
Patrick Baldwin Jr. | Milwaukee | 6-9 | SF/PF | Age: 19.2
26. Memphis Grizzlies (from Jazz)
Justin Lewis | Marquette | 6-7 | SF/PF | Age: 19.8
27. Miami Heat
JD Davison | Alabama | 6-3 PG | Age: 19.3
28. Golden State Warriors
Kennedy Chandler | Tennessee | 6-1 | PG | Age:19.4
29. Memphis Grizzlies
Jeremy Sochan | Baylor | 6-9 | PF | Age: 18.7
30. Oklahoma City Thunder (from Suns)
Blake Wesley | Notre Dame | 6-5 | SG | Age: 18.9
Last edited by emanueldavidginobili; 02-23-2022 at 04:40 PM.
I wonder if AJ/Davis is the Spurs' guy, how much it would take to trade up to 5.
How low did they have Tari?
I'll add the rest of the 1st round, but they had him going 16th to the Thunder.
Blazers about to pass us in the lottery. Clearly tanking after winning their past few games.
Last edited by BatManu20; 02-23-2022 at 05:08 PM.
Good to see Justin Lewis climb into the first round of a mock.
He really intrigues me. 6’ 7”, 7’2” wingspan, 245 lbs. He reminds me a little of KJ tbh but with more defensive versatility.
I hope he attends the combine to get those exact measurements.
I’m not seeing star type potential but think he’ll be a rock solid contributor. Would not mind him at all with one of our later firsts.
My guy Johnny Davis 3 days ago in a big win against Michigan. He was the star of the game before Juwan Howard’s dumbass stole the show. I’ll be watching him tonight.
One of Keegan’s best games of the season. Showed his versatility and why he’s a projected top-10 pick.
Man Davis uses his body well and has great foot work. Reminds me a bit of Luka the way he manoeuvres to the basket and then when he gets there if he is confronted by a big, he puts a shoulder in to them and they're out of the picture.
Interesting thanks for this. I think Chet and Jabari are a lock for 1-2. I think Banchero could potentially fall as far as 5 or 6 depending on which teams have certain picks. There's a few permutations that could play out after the top 2 imo. I agree that OKC will take Duren if they end up outside of the Top 2. Pairing him with a passer like Giddey would make him a dangerous weapon as a roll man. Then he gives you that rebounding and rim protection.
I have no idea on Shaedon Sharpe's game.
Sharpe is doing the James Wiseman "hide myself to create an aura of mystery" thing. It'll wind up getting him drafted 10 spots too high, so good for him. I don't know what he does other than play in transition.
I mean he was the #1 ranked High School player in the nation last year for a reason, to be fair. He’s definitely got talent and some game. Prototypical size for a 2-Guard at 6’6 with a 7’0 wingspan, good athlete, above-average 3-point shooter, can create his own shot, and potential to be a good defender with his tools.
But yea I wish we could’ve seen him play some this year for KU. He technically hasn’t changed his “I’ll be back at Kentucky next year” stance, but most experts think that’s a smokescreen. I personally think he’s a lock for the top-10 based on his high school tapes alone though, and most mocks seem to agree.
Wiseman didn’t play because he probably would have caused forfeits in any further games played Something about Penny paying out of pocket for family to move to Memphis to be close to him.
I don't care a whole lot about high school rankings. Normally they get a considerable bump whenever they commit to Kentucky or Duke anyway -- it's a hype machine. He's just a transition athlete this time and is certainly not a good defender or good at much else. He's very smart to not actually play, as you're demonstrating, because he can be whatever people dream he is. Meanwhile, he's gone a full year without any substantive coaching or compe ion. Yikes. Another Wiseman.
Maybe. It sure as helped him. No way he gets drafted that high if people actually understood how raw he was, not even ready for college basketball, much less pros.
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