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    Sounds like exactly what the Russians would want to do. Not surprising, but par ioning the country...wow.

    Still going to invite an insurgency. This is not 1949.

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    Only invades when Obama or Brandon are in office. Strange
    "bRaNdOn" lol that's funny

    Why would he invade and put political pressure on his most powerful ally when he could already get anything he wanted?

    He had no worry of Ukraine joining NATO when you voted his butt buddy into office.

    (BTW he also invaded Georgia under W.)

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    Is the US the only country allowed to intervene in the freedom of others?
    nope.

    But this isn't quite an intervention, is it?

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    We would definitely be taking military action if Mexico or Canada was becoming a puppet state for Russia, but it's still a re ed comparison. The countries that have joined / are considering joining NATO have free and fair elections (Ukraine, Finland, etc.)...the countries that remain loyal to Russia (Belarus) are authoritarian states where the people don't get to select their leader.

    Putin is essentially mad because he's worried that the Ukrainian people will get to decide their own fate vs. be forced under the thumb of another pro-Russia dictator.

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    Is the US the only country allowed to intervene in the freedom of others?
    its bad/wrong when the US does it, too

    what does that have to do with russia invading ukraine?

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    Biden wasn't wrong. If this was going on with Trump in office, Ukraine would be completely ed.


    Ukraine is completely ed no matter who is President.

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    We would definitely be taking military action if Mexico or Canada was becoming a puppet state for Russia, but it's still a re ed comparison. The countries that have joined / are considering joining NATO have free and fair elections (Ukraine, Finland, etc.)...the countries that remain loyal to Russia (Belarus) are authoritarian states where the people don't get to select their leader.

    Putin is essentially mad because he's worried that the Ukrainian people will get to decide their own fate vs. be forced under the thumb of another pro-Russia dictator.
    & because if he waits as he's been doing he'll have NATO on his border and then there is only the nuclear option. He goes now as he has he can delay that day perhaps indefinitely. He's warned Biden and the rest and if they take heed he'll get what he aimed for. If not, if they/NATO, U.S., get our backs up, then it's judgment day. Nobody likes to lose and lose face. Putin did and now he's dragging the aforementioned [/NATO, U.S.] thru that miserable ing experience>>>(we) don't like it and we're tempted, oh, daddy, are we ever tempted.

    There was a U.S. General at the end of II., (name escapes me) who implored, absolutely begged Truman to let him head North with everything we had in the field and take out Russia.

    & Truman considered it.

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    Guns good, armed militias good, when it's anywhere but the US, then it's "lulz, you think you can hold off the US Military with 'muh gunz'?"

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    Guns good, armed militias good, when it's anywhere but the US, then it's "lulz, you think you can hold off the US Military with 'muh gunz'?"
    you say you want gun control and yet you want an armed military during an invasion? lol hypocrites. checkmate liberals!

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    nope.

    But this isn't quite an intervention, is it?
    Neither was Iraq nor Afghanistan

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    Is the US the only country allowed to intervene in the freedom of others?
    DAF

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    DMC late to the party

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    & because if he waits as he's been doing he'll have NATO on his border and then there is only the nuclear option. He goes now as he has he can delay that day perhaps indefinitely. He's warned Biden and the rest and if they take heed he'll get what he aimed for. If not, if they/NATO, U.S., get our backs up, then it's judgment day. Nobody likes to lose and lose face. Putin did and now he's dragging the aforementioned [/NATO, U.S.] thru that miserable ing experience>>>(we) don't like it and we're tempted, oh, daddy, are we ever tempted.

    There was a U.S. General at the end of II., (name escapes me) who implored, absolutely begged Truman to let him head North with everything we had in the field and take out Russia.

    & Truman considered it.
    Putin already has NATO on his border. Where do you think Latvia and Estonia are?

    I have no idea what the rest of your incoherent gibberish says.

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    Guns good, armed militias good, when it's anywhere but the US, then it's "lulz, you think you can hold off the US Military with 'muh gunz'?"
    D M C

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    Neither was Iraq nor Afghanistan
    Agreed, and both of those conflicts were extremely re ed.

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    Putin already has NATO on his border. Where do you think Latvia and Estonia are?

    I have no idea what the rest of your incoherent gibberish says.
    I'll just bet you have.

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    This never would have happened if we had a President who was friendly with Putin.

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    DMC would not fight against a Putin led invasion of the US either.

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    I'll just bet you have.
    I don't speak uneducated boomer.

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    Agreed, and both of those conflicts were extremely re ed.
    We had to act in Afghanistan but we completed botched it.

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    Biden wasn't wrong. If this was going on with Trump in office, Ukraine would be completely ed.
    Ukraine is not completely ed???

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    I don't speak uneducated boomer.
    You did before Putin cleaned Biden's plow, by God.

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    We had to act in Afghanistan but we completed botched it.
    We had to find and kill Bin Laden. That's it. There was absolutely no reason to ever be there for 20 years, and if going into Afghanistan was really just about retribution for 9/11, then I'd love to hear an explanation about why Saudi Arabia didn't face any military action.

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    We had to act in Afghanistan but we completed botched it.
    For over 21 years because we got hooked.

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