All this time and energy some are spending on this (not a criticism, so relax), yet we all know they're more than likely ending up with the 8th worst record.
With their luck someone from behind will jump them, they'll end up 9th, we'll hear rumors of them trying to trade up for at least Murray if not higher, they'll fail and end up with another middling, unimpressive "SG" prospect who fits their ethos.
Then we'll see flashes of brilliance, delude ourselves into them being a possible future star, only to accept in the end that they're just another guy.
Tbh you’re probably right but if we end up 9-10, hopefully we take a flyer on Tari Eason or Jalen Duran if they’re still available. This team needs a 4 in a bad way but it looks like 4 of the 5 bigs will be gone in the top 5 or 6 picks which s us. Duran is the only one who might be available when we select and he’s a 5. There’s a lot of talented guards in the lottery but that’s the last thing we need right now.
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I think he was dropping well out of the 1st round last year and that's why he pulled out.
Definitely will be tuning into the Iowa/Purdue Big Ten Championship game today, should be a good one.
Eason is a four/three defensively, but offensively he needs to play with a stretch five. Neither he nor Duren are Spurs type players.
They have a very narrow lens. Basically anyone who fits a modern archetype (freak athlete, vertical spacer, floor spacer, big wing, pull up volume 3-point shooter, dynamic creator) is out and anyone who's vanilla is in so long as they look and act the part of their preferred stereotype.
Pretty much agree. Except he's far from tanked this year. His draft stock dropped because he didn't have a big numbers increase, and he's a year older. But he's pretty much who he was, and the Bruins overachieved mostly because of him. I figure he goes around 40, and he'll be a good value there. A guy who you figure to get some minutes and 3's out of off the bench, with some upside - on a cheap deal. That's a good outcome for 40.
Mostly, the Spurs have got to have some more 3P punch, and it helps to have some bench players who can toss up 15 or even 20 points on a good night and not raise eyebrows. Those guys are good for some wins in games that would have been L's.
I don't know if you've actually watched him play, but he's got a good motor and doesn't take plays off. Has a good 3P stroke. He probably wouldn't see daylight under Pop, but he'll get 10-12 minutes a game somewhere else, since it will be lottery teams picking 31-40. I like the idea of him better than Langford, for about 1/10th the money.
����. Give your boy Langford a fair look before making statements how you prefer this or that collegiate player over him. Low hanging fruit is sometimes poisonous……. In all fairness I like the UCLA kid, the question should be to either draft him or pay Lonnie JS!
I haven't seen much, but is Keegan Murray even significantly better than Keldon Johnson? He doesn't look like a legit 6-8 to me in the brief stuff I've seen
In general, I like players from Kentucky, FSU, and Villanova. Don’t trust players from Duke and, I think, Memphis. This a roundabout way to talk about Jalen Duren whom some boards have us taking with our first pick.
Seems like a horrible idea, but does anyone here have any insights on him? I’m sort of opposed in theory to a center who can’t shoot.
Duren is a tough nut. Back and forth on this guy.
Is he the next Ayton or the next DeAndre Jordan?
I was way down on him early on but he looks like he's gotten way better lately (especially on offense).
And he's only 18 which indicates the potential for improvement.
Still haven't finally decided, but he's trending up.
I think Duren can shoot better than he’s shown and better than people give him credit for.
I like Duren myself...I don't think his shot is broken and he's shown flashes of a mid range game late in the season. The question for me is where do you pick him? He's a no brainer if he's there with our 2nd 1st... I'd also be fine with him with our first pick if it's in the 7-9 range..
The thing about the extra picks is that if we DO jump into the top 4, we may be able to bundle the other two into something in the 8,9,10 range. If Portland gets skunked, they may want quan y, since they seem to be rebuilding everything except Dame. We might be able to grab someone like a Ivey and a Duren.
I think it’s a pipe dream to bundle a late mid and late first into the top 10. Even with a player attached.
Additionally, if you added a player to both those picks to get into the top 10 I’m not sure that you’d be getting a player that would be more interesting than the player you’d have to give up with those two picks to make it work. Maybe Richardson and two picks could entice but anything outside that makes little sense. We’re not giving up Keldon or Vassell with 2 picks to get into the top 10 for a less interesting prospect.
Just doesn’t seem realistic.
Duran and Jak would be unplayable together on offense. I suppose they could draft Duran and trade away Jak but that feels like a sideways move at best. As others have said if he falls to our later picks sure but otherwise no. Redundant with too much risk.
If the Spurs want to move into the top 4 its going to require one of Primo, Keldon or Vassel. Cant imagine any team picking the top 4 would have much interest in acquiring Jak or Richardson for that matter with only one year left on their deals. The Raps and Celtics picks wont move the needle much either.
Pretty confident most teams would rather have the top-4 pick than our pick + one of our role players. Spurs have a shot at a top-4 pick if they really want it by tanking. It’s their choice. They have no one to blame but themselves if they don’t give themselves an opportunity.
Depends on the draft and the range. Just last year Memphis moved up to #10 by trading #17, 51 and swapping Valincinious for Adams.
I agree with that...the lottery could change the shape of our landscape if it goes our way...
No one is trading out of the top 4.
Greek Freak and Kwa Leonard drafted at #15.
Just saying.
That’s true. If we’re trading Yak then we’re moving up in the draft so we don’t have to debate Jalen Duren. That said, if he’s a Deandre Jordan that’s probably not horrible at around the 10th pick, but not really what we’re looking for. We need star power that can self create.
This has to be the top objective in my view. Obviously we can’t control where spurs land with their natural pick, but using all/some combo of 17, 22, and a player to get to 8-10 would be ideal. Portland is my ideal target if they do get those two picks.
I said on draft night that I liked Keldon Johnson a LOT more than Samanic, and that if the Spurs had taken him at 19 (instead of Sammich) I wouldn't have complained. Getting him at 29 was a real stroke of luck.
BUT... Murray has played some great ball in the Big 10 tourney, against the better teams. That's the real test. How they perform agains high-level teams, when they've got something on the line. If he continues to play that well in the NCAA, he'll push somebody out of the top 4 in the draft. I think the math is that simple. Keldon was never in the discussion for going that high in the draft. Is Keldon significantly better than Keldon? Meh... they're different players. But I would love to see DJ, Keldon, and Keegan on the court at the same time. The Spurs could start building something around that.
If the Spurs get the ping pong ball and land at 4, I would be happy to see them take him. If he's less than stellar in the NCAA, and falls to where they are naturally, maybe 7-10? I'd still be happy to see them take him with their first pick.
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