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    They did well to win 20 games that season. Dominique Wilkins was in his late 30s and wasn't a good player then and Vernon Maxwell was laughably bad all season. I think he shot like 35 percent for the season. The less said about Del Negro and 'world chmpion' Carl Herrera the better. There wasn't a single player who was even average defensively. Perhaps I'm missing some sarcasm because I haven't had my coffee yet

    They didn't tank, unless your definition of tanking is not playing DRob for the last 5 or 6 games when he was supposedly healthy after being hurt the whole season. No one would risk their franchise player. They were legitimately that bad and they still had only like the 3rd or 4rth best odds for the number 1 pick.
    They clearly tanked. robinson was cleared to play the last few weeks of the season but the spurs kept him out so not to win too many games. I clearly remember that and I was happy the Spurs didn't play Robinson down the stretch as it made more sense to get a better possible chance to land Duncan and the Spurs did just that when they won the draft lottery that year. No Duncan no les ever in San Antonio.

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    Anyone who thinks the Spurs tanked for Duncan just look at Dominique. He was their only scorer and despite rumors of trade or buyout they kept him all year and kept playing him heavy minutes. The easiest way to tank would have been to get rid of him. He wasn't efficient but no one else could generate anything.
    They tanked. Wilkins was at the end of his career when he was with the Spurs.

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    Raptors win against the Clips has them with an equal record with Cleveland for 6th in the East, they seem to be surging while the Cavs are sliding. Hopefully they can get that 6th spot and have Cleveland drop to 7th. Secure that first round pick. Spurs could then package the Boston and Raptors picks into a higher pick. I think the 19th and 22nd pick for example could get you up to 15 or 16 potentially if you find the right trade partner and they take a player for you.
    Yeah The Spurs need to package those two picks for a lottery pick.

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    I think it's pretty safe to say they will be 8-10, i really don't see them worse as they need to make the play in.

    Their schedule is not easy, ok we have Portland 3 time and Houston but the other games are GS( ok not that good actually), Dallas, Denver, Memphis and Minny.

    Imo they could be 10 if NY and Wash lose 7 or 8 of their last ten games.
    Wash and NY have decided to hard tank. If NO continues to win, it’s entirely possible to finish 10th and not make the play in.

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    What do you mean by tanking? Do you mean by losing our playing youth players?

    Who are the 4 worse teams?
    Who were the 4 worst last season?
    Sit two scorers per night with ‘injuries’. We’re not good enough to overcome that more than maybe 20-25% of the time. That would likely be enough to stay 8th.

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    Big game tonight. Winner ughh, I mean, loser, gets the 7 spot for now.

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    Wash and NY have decided to hard tank. If NO continues to win, it’s entirely possible to finish 10th and not make the play in.

    That's what i said we could not be worse than 10 imo because i think spurs will not make the play in.

    For Ny and Wash, we'll see. I don't see a hard tank but bad teams.
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    That's what i said we could not be worse than 10 imo because i think spurs will not make the play in.

    For Ny and Wash, we'll see. I don't see a hard tank but bad teams.
    8 to 10 is a big drop-off though. Every pick is a big drop-off in the top-10.

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    NYKnicks beat Hornets in Charlotte, a fairly big win. Knicks are clearly actually trying, they just suck even worse than the Spurs at finishing games. They looked like they were going to cough up a 20 point lead earlier in the game but held on.

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    NY winning against Charlotte tonight. Washington is bad though and likely to keep losing. Spurs will be 8-9 most likely. I am strangely hopeful they can jump up even with those odds.

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    There's an old Encyclopedia Brown story or whatever where there's a bike race and whoever's bicycle is the slowest is the one that wins. That was the Indiana/Sacramento 'battle' tonight, which the Kings won. Both are two and three wins worse than the Spurs and I don't expect that gap to narrow.

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    Well it look like the Mayor of New York is waiving the Rona flag so Kyrie will be playing his first home game this Sunday - I have a feeling the Nets are going to take the 7th spot from the Raptors.

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    Well it look like the Mayor of New York is waiving the Rona flag so Kyrie will be playing his first home game this Sunday - I have a feeling the Nets are going to take the 7th spot from the Raptors.

    Put Kyrie back on that team and the Nets are easily a Top 3 team in the East. I think the Nets take the 6 spot when it's all said and done. Then it's a question of whether the Raptors or the Cavs are in the 7 slot. If the Raptors finish 8, you can just about kiss that pick goodbye. "But, but... mathematically". Yeah, I get it. But if Toronto finishes 8, you can just about kiss that pick goodbye.

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    A few games back, I called a .500 record the rest of the way for the Spurs. I'm sticking to it.

    At this point, I'm ready to just kick the Lakers out of the play-in and get that 5% chance for a Top 4 pick.

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    No, I don't see them trading up into the top picks even if it was possible. That's been my thesis for a while now. I think they're very wary of how expensive top picks become.

    I agree. But more specifically, it's not what Pop does. That decision not to maneuver around Memphis was either arrogance or foolishness. I don't think Pop is a fool, but he's definitely arrogant. This whole league is about winning in the playoffs, not pulling out a ruler to see who's is bigger.

    A lot of good chess players can't see their way clear to sacrifice a queen to win a match. The great players know instinctively when it's strategic.


    At this point, I'm ready to just kick the Lakers out of the play-in and get that 5% chance for a Top 4 pick.

    Just remember, if the Spurs get to the play-in, there's a chance that they wind up with a zero percent chance of a Top 4 pick, and the 15 pick. I hope that doesn't happen, because it isn't worth being able to say, "I told you so."

    Isn't it kind of strange to think about being willing to "tank" in the play-in to be sure that doesn't happen, but not being willing to do it in the regular season to make sure it doesn't? I'm not being argumentative - I just really think this is bad strategy by Pop.
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    I agree. But more specifically, it's not what Pop does. That decision not to maneuver around Memphis was either arrogance or foolishness. I don't think Pop is a fool, but he's definitely arrogant. This whole league is about winning in the playoffs, not pulling out a ruler to see who's is bigger.

    A lot of good chess players can't see their way clear to sacrifice a queen to win a match. The great players know instinctively when it's strategic.





    Just remember, if the Spurs get to the play-in, there's a chance that they wind up with a zero percent chance of a Top 4 pick, and the 15 pick. I hope that doesn't happen, because it isn't worth being able to say, "I told you so."

    Isn't it kind of strange to think about being willing to "tank" in the play-in to be sure that doesn't happen, but not being willing to do it in the regular season to make sure it doesn't? I'm not being argumentative - I just really think this is bad strategy by Pop.
    Nice take. As great as Pop is he has a knack for out coaching himself and being noticeably stubborn. Maybe that stubbornness is a set of rules he lives by and just won’t compromise at any cost but we have seen this story way too many times. It’s so predictable.

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    2 games ahead of por/was and three ahead of ny/la

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    2 games ahead of por/was and three ahead of ny/la
    Does WA tank or play to win tonight?
    Vs Mil with Greek Freak and Middleton out.

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    I'm still thankful that the Clippers are in the playoffs. They had every incentive to tank for a top pick this year with both superstars being out and they didn't. That's a good culture. I'm not sure how we aren't a better team than them when you compare both the rosters and the coaches... Maybe this proves some players on our team really are expendable and not at all as valuable as playerfans think...

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    I'm still thankful that the Clippers are in the playoffs. They had every incentive to tank for a top pick this year with both superstars being out and they didn't. That's a good culture. I'm not sure how we aren't a better team than them when you compare both the rosters and the coaches... Maybe this proves some players on our team really are expendable and not at all as valuable as playerfans think...
    Their pick conveys to OKC this year, unconditionally. The opposite of tanking.

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    Their pick conveys to OKC this year, unconditionally. The opposite of tanking.
    ohh that makes sense. Still impressive though that they are in the playoffs with no real team

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    They tanked. Wilkins was at the end of his career when he was with the Spurs.
    Not to mention having torn his achilles back when it was harder to recover from that type of injury.

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    Washington put up a 13 point first quarter against the Bucks. Looks like their season is over. I see the Spurs winning more games very easily.

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    Well it looks like Pelicans and Raptors are coming out with a W today so it's a good day...

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    Pelicans beat a struggling Bulls team at home. As they do not own their pick, so have no reason to tank, I believe they will try to win on Saturday and will stay in the play-in.

    Toronto beat Cleveland. They are now tied by record. Raptors have a pretty easy remaining schedule and I think they will play out of the play-in, meaning the pick will confer automatically.

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