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  1. #3526
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Amb you my guy but the copter joke is beneath you
    So much you can clown on Lakers for ….forget Kobe for a sec … a tragic accident that involves kids dying?
    I know this place a hole and we toe the line of decency often …
    But dead kids should make that copter off limits.
    The more I thought about it, the more I lay the blame on Kobe. Why would he bring a bunch of kids, including his own beloved daugther, on a copter under such situations? He should have exhibited better judgment in a situation like that and because of the lack in judgment, 9 lives were lost.

  2. #3527
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Yeah don’t wanna do that I would sacrifice THt first but hey We are KLUTCH run which is why it’s hilarious people blame Pelinka Jeannie Vogel or the Rambii
    So you are now blaming it on Lebron?

  3. #3528
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    heard the Luol Deng era came to an end this season, god bless

  4. #3529
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    heard the Luol Deng era came to an end this season, god bless
    he was the 5th highest paid Laker this season

    Los Angeles Knicks

  5. #3530
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    wow, didnt know deng was still getting paid. Last played for lakers in 2017. Hope he got his bubble ring. At least now they have free money to pay Russ.

  6. #3531
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    So you are now blaming it on Lebron?
    I don’t recall anyone anywhere except Jalen Rose who was college buddies with Pelinka, praising Rob, Linda, Kurt or Jeannie/Vogel for the le two years ago. It was Bron leadership in a tragic season and teaching AD how to win and making Caruso better. That got all the credit. It doesn’t flip now we suck. KLUTCH is why we dished all our assets for Davis and chose THT over Caruso and overpaid him too.

  7. #3532
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    In the end we hit 17 so it’s worth it but I’m not gonna scapegoat Vogel or Pelinka for following the KLUTCH path that starts with overpaying KCP twice

  8. #3533
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    I don’t recall anyone anywhere except Jalen Rose who was college buddies with Pelinka, praising Rob, Linda, Kurt or Jeannie/Vogel for the le two years ago. It was Bron leadership in a tragic season and teaching AD how to win and making Caruso better. That got all the credit. It doesn’t flip now we suck. KLUTCH is why we dished all our assets for Davis and chose THT over Caruso and overpaid him too.
    Not that I disagree, just find it amusing that you have no problems talking about the fall of the lakers as Lebrons fault for his lack of leadership but wouldn’t admit years of irrelevance since 2012 was due to Kobe until Lebron came to the rescue.

    The lakers don’t have a strong management team and their entire strategy is to star build which leads to stars having overwhelming power over the franchise. Riley told Lebron to piss off with the heat and it’s something that eventually hurt both sides. It was a stupid move in a way but he was forced his hand and it was either that or bend over backwards for Lebron.

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    wow, didnt know deng was still getting paid. Last played for lakers in 2017. Hope he got his bubble ring. At least now they have free money to pay Russ.

  10. #3535
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    Not that I disagree, just find it amusing that you have no problems talking about the fall of the lakers as Lebrons fault for his lack of leadership but wouldn’t admit years of irrelevance since 2012 was due to Kobe until Lebron came to the rescue.

    The lakers don’t have a strong management team and their entire strategy is to star build which leads to stars having overwhelming power over the franchise. Riley told Lebron to piss off with the heat and it’s something that eventually hurt both sides. It was a stupid move in a way but he was forced his hand and it was either that or bend over backwards for Lebron.
    We cater to stars so when we have them in their primes it works as they age it sucks.
    I do find it funny when people say we have poor team management but yet we are the most successful franchise.
    Yes we bottom out after our le runs but our strategy works. We are star ers through and through. I like when we had Kobe or Eddie Jones before dat but Most of Lakernation is spoiled and en led and don’t have the patience to watch young guys develop

  11. #3536
    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    We cater to stars so when we have them in their primes it works as they age it sucks.
    I do find it funny when people say we have poor team management but yet we are the most successful franchise.
    Yes we bottom out after our le runs but our strategy works. We are star ers through and through. I like when we had Kobe or Eddie Jones before dat but Most of Lakernation is spoiled and en led and don’t have the patience to watch young guys develop
    Location location location. Wilt, Kareem, shaq, Lebron, Kobe, Davis all forced their way to LA because of location. It has nothing to do with management.

  12. #3537
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    Location location location. Wilt, Kareem, shaq, Lebron, Kobe, Davis all forced their way to LA because of location. It has nothing to do with management.
    Sure they were willing but we had to make trades nice contracts etc even to accommodate Shaq and Bron who were free agents. To get Bron they sucked up to Rich Paul the year before overpaying KCP and talking up the signing by quoting scripture it was a shameless charade and obvious attempt to gain favor with KLUTCH. Kobe was a Jerry West steal. West sold Shaq on Lakers etc. They also had to draft sign and trade for complementary pieces. Are they as well run as the Spurs? No obviously, But the lakers have won 6 les to the Spurs 5 since Tim was drafted …it’s not just the stars … but they are the biggest piece of the puzzle. My point is all those stars came and left and we still won. Duncan and pop are there for all 5 of yours you have great culture management and stability. We have a media circus and dysfunction but yet won les with two different coaches with plenty others in between during the same era …three different decision makers our owner died we still won a le just two years ago.

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    Sure they were willing but we had to make trades nice contracts etc even to accommodate Shaq and Bron who were free agents. To get Bron they sucked up to Rich Paul the year before overpaying KCP and talking up the signing by quoting scripture it was a shameless charade and obvious attempt to gain favor with KLUTCH. Kobe was a Jerry West steal. West sold Shaq on Lakers etc. They also had to draft sign and trade for complementary pieces. Are they as well run as the Spurs? No obviously, But the lakers have won 6 les to the Spurs 5 since Tim was drafted …it’s not just the stars … but they are the biggest piece of the puzzle. My point is all those stars came and left and we still won. Duncan and pop are there for all 5 of yours you have great culture management and stability. We have a media circus and dysfunction but yet won les with two different coaches with plenty others in between during the same era …three different decision makers our owner died we still won a le just two years ago.
    And it’s because of the location and free agents. Teams like the spurs had to build from scratch and hope the superstar they found/developed would stick around. When you get a guy like nephew it sets the team back decades. Whereas the lakers have enormous room for error. Bad signing with nash and Howard? I will just throw more money at it. Ingram and Russell not developing (or th e lakers don’t want to spend time developing you GM talent)? I will just force a trade by using the media to apply pressure.

    Shaq didn’t have to sold. He was going to Hollywood all along. It was an open secret to a degree that the league had to step in and investigate for tampering to feign fairness when the league wanted that signing all along. Lebron to lakers was another example. At that point the lakers were the laughing stock of the league. NO WAY Lebron or any self respecting free agent superstar would sign with that team if not for the association with Hollywood.

    The media would routinely root for and come up with trades for the lakers then grill unwilling trade partners and apply pressure. It’s almost comical.

  14. #3539
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    In the end we hit 17 so it’s worth it but I’m not gonna scapegoat Vogel or Pelinka for following the KLUTCH path that starts with overpaying KCP twice
    16*#* no one counts the pixie tournament as legit chip

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    lakers fans been pretty .... pretty quiet

    lol what if at the beginning of the season, we had been told that SAS would win 2 more games than LAL and have 3 more first round picks than them? would spursfan have taken that?
    ...and then what happened with your Spurs?

  16. #3541
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    16*#* no one counts the pixie tournament as legit chip
    If that chip doesn't count, then neither do these:

    Celtics 11 "Jim Crow Era" les

    Spurs 1999* " le"

    *2020 World Champion Lakers played more than 50 games.


  17. #3542
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    Nick Nurse is currently getting his teeth kicked in. Lakers need a coach. Nick Nurse might be available in a few days.

    Nick Nurse is with Klutch. Will continue to monitor this situation.


  18. #3543
    Erryday I'm Hustlin' Robz4000's Avatar
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    ...and then what happened with your Spurs?
    We have four picks in this draft. The Lakers...

  19. #3544
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    ...and then what happened with your Spurs?
    Spurs getting the 38th pick courtesy of your Lakers

    Thanks!

  20. #3545
    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    If that chip doesn't count, then neither do these:

    Celtics 11 "Jim Crow Era" les

    Spurs 1999* " le"

    *2020 World Champion Lakers played more than 50 games.

    Not the Celtics fault no other team wanted to be black like them. You wanna talk Jim Crow les though...


  21. #3546
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    Not the Celtics fault no other team wanted to be black like them. You wanna talk Jim Crow les though...

    Fine. Take away our 6 Jim Crow chips. Then take away their 11. Boiled down:

    Lakers - 11
    Celtics - 6

    Showtime, Shaq/Kobe and Bron accounted for 11 modern era NBA chips (most in NBA history).


  22. #3547
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    Fine. Take away our 6 Jim Crow chips. Then take away their 11. Boiled down:

    Lakers - 11
    Celtics - 6

    Showtime, Shaq/Kobe and Bron accounted for 11 modern era NBA chips (most in NBA history).

    You said Jim Crow les. Celtics were the blackest team in the league, so can't take that from them.

  23. #3548
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    You said Jim Crow les. Celtics were the blackest team in the league, so can't take that from them.
    Jim Crow *era* les sn

  24. #3549
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    Jim Crow *era* les sn
    If Jim Crow Era les don't count then that should eliminate the Lakers 2020 le.

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