Official 2022 NBA Draft thread

[Mr. Body]

Looks meh to me. I may be wrong and it's only highlights but doesn't see him as a good fit in the NBA even once he's done being project - yup I know he's still young.
His shot form looks bad and his body frame (and poised) even if he bulks up, it seems he will struggle.
I'm seeing some at ude issue or maybe he's only being hyped. He has the tendency to over do or forces things.
Honestly hard to judge since the compe ion of the highlights is against high school but in comparison to Shaedon Sharpe, I'm more impressed with SS on how he plays even though the footage are limited to high school compe ion as well.

Just an initial impression. lol

LOLZ

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Chris Bosh was a damn fine player.

Yup. HOF. He probably has a valid claim to being the best native born Texan ever to play in the NBA. LMA is a strong contender.

[The Truth #6]

Scouting videos and reports suggest Miller plays to win, which is good to hear. Sort of a tangent, but my concern is that he's wearing his sunglasses way too often in these videos, which make me curious about his personality. But he's Canadian, so he has to be nice.

[Mr. Body]

If you want a scouting vid on the kid, here's one. To be taken with a grain of salt, but the guy has actually watched the games. The only thing that really mattered to me is around 4:00 when it says he works to involve teammates.

People need to realize these vids don't mean much at all. They need to realize running and dunking and shooting isn't basketball. A guy can hit shots or get his head around the rim, but that's not basketball. Once you realize what basketball actually is, then you're getting somewhere.

At this point, claiming Sharpe is worth a top 5 pick and Leonard Miller isn't worth a top 10 pick is stupid. Either they both should be hyped or neither should be hyped at all. They're the same player right now conceptually. Other than frame and size, there is literally no difference between them.

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Other than frame and size, there is literally no difference between them.

Yeah, but the frame makes Sharpe more draft ready since he won't need as much time to grow into his body. But let me make clear, I'm not, nor have I heretofore advocated for Sharpe. Between the two, I'd rather have Miller.

But since he's not gonna be ready for a few years most likely, I'm all about getting me some burn

[Seventyniner]

If the Leonard Miller hype train heats up enough, he could go top 8 and, like Sharpe, push another good player to the Spurs' pick at 9 or 10. Assuming the Spurs don't move into the top 4, of course.

[JPB]

Scouting videos and reports suggest Miller plays to win, which is good to hear. Sort of a tangent, but my concern is that he's wearing his sunglasses way too often in these videos, which make me curious about his personality. But he's Canadian, so he has to be nice.

that's some deep scouting right there. Let us know the ones who play to lose.

[R. DeMurre]

It's really hard to judge players with no college games at all like Sharpe & Miller. 18 months ago, most sites/scouts had Emoni Bates rated higher than Jabari Smith and Keegan Murray. I doubt you could find a single scout or analyst in the world who thinks that today.

[Russ]

that's some deep scouting right there. Let us know the ones who play to lose.

The opposite of playing to win is not playing to lose.

The opposite of playing to win is not playing to win.

(After that grandiose observation, I'll quietly go back to pla udes about Jacob Riis and rock-pounding. )

[R. DeMurre]

Scouting videos and reports suggest Miller plays to win, which is good to hear. Sort of a tangent, but my concern is that he's wearing his sunglasses way too often in these videos, which make me curious about his personality. But he's Canadian, so he has to be nice.

[Ocotillo]

[ZeusWillJudge]

It's really hard to judge players with no college games at all like Sharpe & Miller. 18 months ago, most sites/scouts had Emoni Bates rated higher than Jabari Smith and Keegan Murray. I doubt you could find a single scout or analyst in the world who thinks that today.

It's hard to judge players who do have college experience. If it wasn't, all this pre-draft time wouldn't be such a circus every year. And "sites" being ridiculous I expect. Scouts... real scouts... don't publish their picks. They get paid by somebody, and whoever pays them don't want to give the information away. Collectively, this place is as good at throwing darts as most of the internet drivel out there.

What I can say about Miller is that he's tall, reasonably athletic, reasonably smooth putting the ball on the floor, and he knocked down 3's somewhere around a .400 rate this year. Unless he gets shorter, less athletic, more awkward with his dribble, or forgets how to make 3's, he's a person of interest. Beyond that, it would take some real information from real scouts to know if he's really ready to jump in to the NBA. But other guys have done it successfully.

All I've said is that the Spurs won't just swing for the fence. They'll at least wait for a hanging curve ball. If they decide to take him at 9 (and let's face it, they probably won't), he's pretty much the prototype for the KIND of player I would like to see them land. Just don't saddle me with any of the other claims and comments being made about him.

[Drom John]

Using ESPN "best available" as a subs ute for "consensus,"

2021 Keon Johnson / Joshua Primo
2020 Tyrese Haliburton / Devin Vassell
2019 Nassir Little / Luka Samanic
2018 Robert Williams / Lonnie Walker IV
2017 Frank Jackson / Derrick White
2016 Dejounte Murray / Dejounte Murray
2015 Montrezl Harrell / Nikola Milutinov
2014 Kyle Anderson / Kyle Anderson
2013 Jamaal Franklin / Livio Jean-Charles
2012 No Spurs first round pick
2011 Kawhi Leonard / Kawhi Leonard, [Big Board #21+ behind paywall] / Cory Joseph
2010 Devin Ebanks / James Anderson
2009 No Spurs first round pick, but DeJuan Blair was 18th on the Big Board.
2008 DeAndre Jordan / George Hill
2007 Tiago Splitter / Tiago Splitter
2006 No Spurs first round pick
2005 David Lee / Ian Mahinmi
2004 Anderson Varajao / Beno Udrih
2003 Josh Howard / Leandro Barbosa (draft day trade to Phoenix)
2002 Jason Jennings / John Salmons (draft day trade to Philadelphia)
2001 Omar Cook / Tony Parker
End of Ford's Big Boards/

[The Truth #6]

that's some deep scouting right there. Let us know the ones who play to lose.

Ha. More specifically, they suggested he isn't just playing to get his points and stats but plays to involve other teammates with the ultimate goal to win the game. Can't be said for every player.

[rascal]

If you want a scouting vid on the kid, here's one. To be taken with a grain of salt, but the guy has actually watched the games. The only thing that really mattered to me is around 4:00 when it says he works to involve teammates.

People need to realize these vids don't mean much at all. They need to realize running and dunking and shooting isn't basketball. A guy can hit shots or get his head around the rim, but that's not basketball. Once you realize what basketball actually is, then you're getting somewhere.

At this point, claiming Sharpe is worth a top 5 pick and Leonard Miller isn't worth a top 10 pick is stupid. Either they both should be hyped or neither should be hyped at all. They're the same player right now conceptually. Other than frame and size, there is literally no difference between them.

You have a bad eye. Sharpe has more upside and the guys who are making the real NBA decisions also see that.

[Uriel]

[Biggems]

Ha. More specifically, they suggested he isn't just playing to get his points and stats but plays to involve other teammates with the ultimate goal to win the game. Can't be said for every player.

So what you are saying is that he does not play glory ball, aka Kobe Bryant ball? He plays the game the Spurs way, with a team first at ude, and with the appropriate offensive aggression.

[objective]

Looks meh to me. I may be wrong and it's only highlights but doesn't see him as a good fit in the NBA even once he's done being project - yup I know he's still young.
His shot form looks bad and his body frame (and poised) even if he bulks up, it seems he will struggle.
I'm seeing some at ude issue or maybe he's only being hyped. He has the tendency to over do or forces things.
Honestly hard to judge since the compe ion of the highlights is against high school but in comparison to Shaedon Sharpe, I'm more impressed with SS on how he plays even though the footage are limited to high school compe ion as well.

Just an initial impression. lol

Seems like another Tony Snell or with some a little bit of Chris Bosh for me. But if he's available at 38th, I guess not bad esp. if he pans out considering he'll be a project for the meantime.

I don't disagree that much, but I haven't watched everything.

His length and reach don't look so outstanding to me. Low shoulders, long neck plus big head make his arms look shorter, I don't know. Even if he does have a 7-2 wingspan at 6-11, that +3 is pretty average for guys that tall

But I probably wouldn't be that upset if they took him at 20 or 25 or 38 depending on if there's still any standouts left on the board. They have 4 picks, taking a big swing on a high bust factor unknown doesn't bother me. Saw some Reddit posts from raptors fans wanting him at the 2nd they got from San Antonio, so I would be amused if the Spurs took him with the pick they acquired from Toronto

[Thomas82]

I would be more than happy with this. But we all know the Spurs won't draft 4 players.

[Biggems]

So, we got Primo last year.....imagine getting Sharpe and Miller this year.

[mo7888]

I'm not that high on Chandler but, overall I don't hate it...

[R. DeMurre]

It's hard to judge players who do have college experience. If it wasn't, all this pre-draft time wouldn't be such a circus every year. And "sites" being ridiculous I expect. Scouts... real scouts... don't publish their picks. They get paid by somebody, and whoever pays them don't want to give the information away. Collectively, this place is as good at throwing darts as most of the internet drivel out there.

What I can say about Miller is that he's tall, reasonably athletic, reasonably smooth putting the ball on the floor, and he knocked down 3's somewhere around a .400 rate this year. Unless he gets shorter, less athletic, more awkward with his dribble, or forgets how to make 3's, he's a person of interest. Beyond that, it would take some real information from real scouts to know if he's really ready to jump in to the NBA. But other guys have done it successfully.

All I've said is that the Spurs won't just swing for the fence. They'll at least wait for a hanging curve ball. If they decide to take him at 9 (and let's face it, they probably won't), he's pretty much the prototype for the KIND of player I would like to see them land. Just don't saddle me with any of the other claims and comments being made about him.

It is kind of fun to watch how certain associations catch fire and almost immediately show up in mocks. I didn't see any mocks of Johnny Davis to the Spurs until nbadraftroom.com listed Manu as a comp, and then in the very next week I saw like four different mocks of him going to the Spurs.

[rascal]

Miller somewhere between Bosh and James Gist

[Mr. Body]

You have a bad eye. Sharpe has more upside and the guys who are making the real NBA decisions also see that.

You have no ing idea what you're talking about. I'm starting to see you as one of the stupidest posters on this board, just nothing of value whatsoever.

[Mr. Body]

It is kind of fun to watch how certain associations catch fire and almost immediately show up in mocks. I didn't see any mocks of Johnny Davis to the Spurs until nbadraftroom.com listed Manu as a comp, and then in the very next week I saw like four different mocks of him going to the Spurs.

I don't know if we're seeing much by way of associations. Mock drafters aren't putting much into their mocks yet -- it's not even draft season -- so they're just copying each other at this point.