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Wouldn’t shock me if there was a deal framework for Tre. The SRP guards drafted the year before and the year by after the Spurs got 2ways.
I mean, this is all based on Givony thinking someone has a promise and Givony's been kinda trash ever since he went to ESPN (a common theme). If the Spurs want him late, then why not. He's what you'd want at that point. He has skills that didn't fully materialize on the court this year. If you looked at a player like Keegan Murray or Johnny Davis last year, you wouldn't see a top pick, either. It's all about stealling a march on other teams at that point, so if you see the character and the abilities...
But we're jumping at rumors right now.
Wouldn’t shock me if there was a deal framework for Tre. The SRP guards drafted the year before and the year by after the Spurs got 2ways.
This “jumping early, ahead of the curve” philosophy of picking a player so early in their embryonic stage that is becoming popular seems highly problematic. Sounds like an overly intellectualized way to rationalize desperate, impulsive decision making. Sounds “smart” but making choices with even less data seems unlike the Spurs, yet here we are. Also, with so many picks and potential trades that we should be considering, promising any player has its problems, also. “Yeah, we’d love to make this awesome trade but, you know, we promised to pick this underwhelming player at 25 so maybe next time.”
Or "we like this player, but we'll have to pass because we already have a couple undersized guards waiting in the pipeline... can they play? I don't know, but they're great kids! very mature".
They don’t end up in the spotlight bc of that. That’s too simplistic. They likely were in multiple teams radar anyways. I think hiding a prospect is more likely to happen for the higher picks (like Keldon Johnson not working out for teams outside the lottery, he hid himself). Those teams are under pressure to hit on the best picks and are reluctant to take guys they haven’t worked out, etc. but the lower you go (late firsts and seconds) the more prospects that are the remaining best talents stand out, just IMO and there are guys that could fall that you take of they are there even if you didn’t work them out (like Keldon, precisely).
This guy sounds like he wouldn’t stand out based on his last season production but teams often take gambles based on preexisting data.
I know nothing about this guy, but I had to point out the Spurs drafted Dejounte and were high on him but he fell to the end of the first because among other things his shot and efficiency was bad. He needed a lot of work. It’s possible they think this guy is redimible. But honestly I don’t know him so this is just interesting predraft speculation to me.
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If they're tossing out promises, why not Dalen Terry instead? He's better on both sides of the ball.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...n--dalen-terry
If they're tossing out promises, why not Dalen Terry instead? He's better on both sides of the ball.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...n--dalen-terry
Someone taking this gamble is looking at things other than the college numbers. They probably are looking at high school, other tournaments and international compe ion and hope he will get better. It definitely makes sense only for a team with multiple picks that can spread their risk.
I saw rumors of OKC also being the team making the promise.
This is all speculation, only Kyle Cohen is honest about his pick being speculative. I wouldn’t even rule out the Grizzlies either, bc they have a couple of late firsts.
Man, those finishes from the 0:50 mark to the 1:10 mark are some of the most unathletic moves I've ever seen from a perimeter-oriented NBA draft prospect
I'm getting a little tired of the "he was really good in high school" narratives that are spilling out, like players who struggle with various aspects of college basketball will suddenly return to some idyllic high school form in the NBA. You see it with Griffin, too -- he was good in high school! Look at the high school footage! No, he's not going to magically become the mutidimensional athlete he was in high school. Things just get harder.
The other narrative that I'm getting tired of is "he has a long wingspan/tools so will most likely become a good defender," especially when said about absolutely defenders. This isn't how it works. Just because you have good lateral speed, quickness, and length, does not make you a good defender. If you're a really poor defender in college, no amount of length is going to fix what's between your ears.
The whole point of promising a player is to downplay him. Yet whose big mouth caused other teams to swoop prospects under Spurs’ nose?
Caleb looks like a 2nd rounder to me. I’d be very disappointed if they pick this guy over Liddell, Jovic, Kessler, LaRavia
Beat me to it. Was going g to say the same thing. His release is slow as well. I sure as hope they didn't promise him at 25.Man, those finishes from the 0:50 mark to the 1:10 mark are some of the most unathletic moves I've ever seen from a perimeter-oriented NBA draft prospect
Kid may be worth a flier at 38 but definitely not before 30.
He says the comp is Klay....I don't see that...I'd go with even less athletic Cam Johnson... He might have a future off the bench as a sniper for spot minutes but, that isn't even guaranteed. I wouldn't hate it at #38 but, I wouldn't be overly thrilled either.
Mostly joking aside, this feels like confirmation we are in the silly season, or whatever they call it.
Not going to the Combine could also be other random things: he had Covid and couldn't make it; his genius agent realized his combine measurements would be so awful it would be better for him to not even go and create the belief that he already has a promise. I hope it's something random like that.
I hope the only way this guy is in the Spurs camp is as an undrafted free agent on a make good contract.
Yeah, and this is just Givony looking up what teams have multiple picks and deciding one of them gave a promise.
He doesn't have any lift.Man, those finishes from the 0:50 mark to the 1:10 mark are some of the most unathletic moves I've ever seen from a perimeter-oriented NBA draft prospect
I’m sure knowing how badly we reached on Primo only adds to the speculation, hopefully they are wrong.
Could easily be OKC at 30 or 34. They have as many picks as we do, and have a recent history of drafting players who underwhelmed at first, Poku, Giddey.
True. And to me, it would be a desperate move to promise him anything. I see it as a team that only has one pick and probably a later pick who would try to, I guess, get Caleb to shut it down so they can grab him in the late first. That would be my best guess, and it still seems silly. Maybe he is pulling out of the draft? There's always that.
OKC needs outside shooting even more than we do.
That’s the one thing Caleb didn’t totally suck at at UM. He’s got a nice stroke, by all accounts.
caleb makes kyle "slo-mo" anderson look like the flash.
I just want to say people should take a look at Dalen Terry. He's pretty interesting.
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