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    I think chances Jalen Terry is available at 20 are pretty good, and he wouldn't be a bad pickup. But I have Eason, Jalen Williams and Blake Wesley -at least- higher than him.

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    Jabari Walker's profile makes sense and he's likely to be available at 38, but he wouldn't be my first choice. But an acceptable fall back if no one slips (I expect someone to, hopefully Kamagate, Procida or Minott).

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    I wouldn't trade Murray straight up for the #4 pick.
    + 1000 and even KJ +9 . I largely prefer to stand pat.

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    I'd definitely trade KJ + #9 for #4

    I'd also be willing to trade DJ straight up for #4 if Ivey goes in the first 3 picks.

    Sacramento and Portland are both trying to win now. I'd bet each team would find Keldon Johnson plus two future FRPs more attractive than Johnson + 9. Something like Johnson plus our '25 and '27 top 4 protected. Neither Sacramento nor Portland would use those picks. They'd package the picks in a trade to upgrade around Dame. Portland, in particular, is light on draft assets. They need to reload. This probably results in a second tier or third tier player like Jerami Grant, but if someone like Kyrie is put on the trade market, Portland will need 3-4 FRPs to put into a package. These sort of trade opportunities will largely pop up in the weeks following the draft because teams will have to trade a bird rights or restricted FA to make the trade math work. Pick number 9 holds limited value to Blazers and Kings and doesn't help either team win now.

    This makes moving up more expensive for San Antonio, but it's also beneficial insofar as they are in re-tool now mode. If they added pick 4 and retained 9, their rebuild should accelerate.

    Adding Ivey at 4 and Sochan at 9 (fill in the names of whomever you prefer) looks a lot more attractive to me than a FRP in 2025 because it is better aligned with Murray's best years.
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    Sacramento and Portland are both trying to win now. I'd bet each team would find Keldon Johnson plus two future FRPs more attractive than Johnson + 9. Something like Johnson plus our '25 and '27 top 4 protected. Neither Sacramento nor Portland would use those picks. They'd package the picks in a trade to upgrade around Dame. Portland, in particular, is light on draft assets. They need to reload. This probably results in a second tier or third tier player like Jerami Grant, but if someone like Kyrie is put on the trade market, Portland will need 3-4 FRPs to put into a package. These sort of trade opportunities will largely pop up in the weeks following the draft because teams will have to trade a bird rights or restricted FA to make the trade math work. Pick number 9 holds limited value to Blazers and Kings and doesn't help either team win now.

    This makes moving up more expensive for San Antonio, but it's also beneficial insofar as they are in re-tool now mode. If they added pick 4 and retained 9, they're rebuild should accelerate.

    Adding Ivey at 4 and Sochan at 9 (fill in the names of whomever you prefer) looks a lot more attractive to me than a FRP in 2025 because it is better aligned with Murray's best years.
    I wouldn't be interested in the Portland trade. I think that's way to much to move up 2 spots. As for 2 future 1sts + KJ to move up to 4...I'd have to think more on that but at first blush I think thays to rich for me as well...I think I'd rather stand pat.

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    I wouldn't be interested in the Portland trade. I think that's way to much to move up 2 spots. As for 2 future 1sts + KJ to move up to 4...I'd have to think more on that but at first blush I think thays to rich for me as well...I think I'd rather stand pat.

    I think of it less as moving up two spots as adding another lottery pick this year and punting on future picks you hope are in the late teens or 20s.

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    I think of it less as moving up two spots as adding another lottery pick this year and punting on future picks you hope are in the late teens or 20s.
    I guess it comes down to how confident one is about those future picks being in the 20's in a couple years. .

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    I guess it comes down to how confident one is about those future picks being in the 20's in a couple years. .

    Absolutely. The Spurs would have to make at least one All Star of Vassell, Primo, pick 4 and pick 9 for those picks to be in the 20s. But if this isn't a bet they're willing to make, that's really an argument against keeping Dejounte Murray. Right now, he might fetch 3 FRPs and a young player. if you really don't think Vassell, Primo, two 2022 lottery picks, and Murray are good enough to become a playoff team in 2024-2027, then you have to convert Murray and get serious about a rebuild.

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    Just curious don’t think it’s been mentioned any, saw Kevin O’Connors new article from the ringer and it’s pure speculation but he mentions the spurs as a potential trade partner with the kings for the #4 pick. What would y’all trade for #4? Keldon + 9, that would be a hard pill to swallow but DJ and Ivey together could be scary. Idk super unlikely But interesting to think about even if It’s not Ivey and one of the top 3 bigs fall.
    As much as I love Keldon, he’s the odd man once Spurs got their true PF (Sochan/Eason) and Vassell is a more natural fit at SF. Yes I’d do Keldon plus even it means not Bachero, just Ivey. Murray/Ivey/Vassell/Eason/Defensive Big looks very promising.

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    I respect the ideas but i will not trade futur picks to move up a little bit. I will not trade DJ or Keldon plus a pick. I don't see a player in this draft worthing it, i can give that type of package for an Evan Mobley type of player.

    The only thing i will do is trading some of this years picks for moving up.

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    Or send that pick to Charlote for picks 13, 15 and future FRP. Draft Davis at 9, Eason 13, Williams 15.

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    Absolutely. The Spurs would have to make at least one All Star of Vassell, Primo, pick 4 and pick 9 for those picks to be in the 20s. But if this isn't a bet they're willing to make, that's really an argument against keeping Dejounte Murray. Right now, he might fetch 3 FRPs and a young player. if you really don't think Vassell, Primo, two 2022 lottery picks, and Murray are good enough to become a playoff team in 2024-2027, then you have to convert Murray and get serious about a rebuild.
    If DJ is worth 3 frp's and a young player I'd move him (assuming we're talking good picks and not in the 20's)

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    Sac has Mitc and Fox, why would they want another guard? They’re probably looking for a Paul George type player for that pick if they are in win now mode. Keldon would have to be who we trade if that pipe dream ever happened for the 4th pick along with a few first rounders

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    Honestly, I think I would if it's Banchero who's there. His upside at his position is harder to find than a competent Dejounte replacement. I'd try other scenarios first (like moving up from 9 + KJ), but if that's the only way, I think I'd still do it. Not that I think Banchero would fall to no. 4, or the Kings or the FO would do that.
    Banchero’s pretty much a given at #3 to Houston if he’s there, which it sounds like he will be. Losing Keldon would also really suck and be a move in the wrong direction.

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    Banchero’s pretty much a given at #3 to Houston if he’s there, which it sounds like he will be. Losing Keldon would also really suck and be a move in the wrong direction.
    Spur fans value Keldon more than other team's front offices so Sac would have no interest in Keldon + 9 for 4.

    Sac would be looking for an all star level player in a deal for 4.

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    Word is that Jovic wants to come over this year. Though they could draft him and force him to stay.
    Flip that. The leverage belong to the player. See Clint Capela.

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    Spurs working out LaRavia

    if we can get both Alondes and LaRavia, that would be pretty sick

    LaRavia makes nice cuts to the basket.

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    Spur fans value Keldon more than other team's front offices so Sac would have no interest in Keldon + 9 for 4.

    Sac would be looking for an all star level player in a deal for 4.
    I didn't realized that you have had conversations with NBA front offices on the value of Keldon Johnson. Please share with us what they have said.

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    I don’t know why people bother with rascal and his “mystical power of foresight”

    this dude popped out of nowhere for the offseason.

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    I don’t know why people bother with rascal and his “mystical power of foresight”

    this dude popped out of nowhere for the offseason.
    This is the most interesting time of the year as this is when teams build their teams.

    And go on believing Keldon + 9 will be enough to get that number 4 pick. That's not mystical foresight, it's common sense.

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    Spurs working out LaRavia

    if we can get both Alondes and LaRavia, that would be pretty sick

    LaRavia makes nice cuts to the basket.
    that's interesting. i know he pulled out of the scrimmages at the combine on a rumored first round promise. he also worked out for the nuggets yesterday.

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    Spurs working out LaRavia

    if we can get both Alondes and LaRavia, that would be pretty sick

    LaRavia makes nice cuts to the basket.
    Logically SA working out a lot of prospects.

    Some nice duos in this draft : Laravia-Alondes/Mahurin-Terry or Koloko/Sochan-Brown .....

    Laravia looks good, my only concern was the laterall quickness but he is a nice complete player.


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    Call me a sucker for a highlight reel, but Alondes Williams looks legit. Don’t draft potential or measurements. Draft an elite skill and a killer instinct. Would not wait for 38 to take this guy.

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    Call me a sucker for a highlight reel, but Alondes Williams looks legit. Don’t draft potential or measurements. Draft an elite skill and a killer instinct. Would not wait for 38 to take this guy.
    Majority of the folks on this board would pass on Ginobili because he was too old (and if they deny it, they’re lying to themselves)

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