Draft Strategy: Trading Up With 20 & 25

[duncan2150]

After thinking a little bit i'm with this strategy of trading up with 20 and 25, maybe with players ( J Rich .....). I'll do it but only if i can go end of the lottery. Gaining only a few places for the rockets pick for example could be ok if a really good player slides.

So i will target Wash, NY, OKC, Charlotte and Cleveland with that strategy.

It will be deadly if we could have a good combo with two of those players imo : Davis, Mathurin, Duren, Sochan, Daniels and maybe M Williams.

[exstatic]

You could possibly get one of Charlotte's picks using Poeltl, but they already declined and probably think they can get Duren or Williams.

They declined when they only had one FRP, dropped into the bottom half of the play in, and got bounced. Meanwhile, New Orleans played in, and their pick (15) conveyed to Charlotte. It's free money for a team that made a bad decision in going with Trezz Harrell.

Duren might not even be on the board at #9. Almost no chance he lasts until 13. We could force their hand by picking Duren. They're also not the only team that was interested. CHI and TOR were also sniffing around, and don't rule out GSW.

[exstatic]

Yak and Josh Richardson could be in play, too. The Knicks could like Richardson, but I sort of like him on the Spurs, too.

He won't be on the Spurs after next season. Once you recognize that we have to many young mouths to feed, the right move becomes clear.

[mo7888]

They declined when they only had one FRP, dropped into the bottom half of the play in, and got bounced. Meanwhile, New Orleans played in, and their pick (15) conveyed to Charlotte. It's free money for a team that made a bad decision in going with Trezz Harrell.

Duren might not even be on the board at #9. Almost no chance he lasts until 13. We could force their hand by picking Duren. They're also not the only team that was interested. CHI and TOR were also sniffing around, and don't rule out GSW.

I see you've mentioned GSW in relation to a Poeltl deal a few times...how do you see a deal with them taking shape?

[exstatic]

20 and 25 don't have too much value.

The only possible trade is 20 or 25 + Poeltl to Charlotte for 13 or 15 and that won't be easy as Char was reluctant to trade either pick earlier in the year to the spurs.

They didn't have both picks in February. 15 literally dropped out of the sky into their laps when New Orleans bucked the odds and played in to the playoffs. 15 is free money for them.

[John B]

Yes but we shouldn't. Poeltl is worth more than moving up 7 spots from 20. If it was Richardson we were talking about, then probably I'd do that.

Charlotte needs a center, that’s where this conversation starts… not Richardson.

[John B]

They didn't have both picks in February. 15 literally dropped out of the sky into their laps when New Orleans bucked the odds and played in to the playoffs. 15 is free money for them.

If Charlotte got Duren at 13 that cancels Poeltl, what can Spurs offer for the 15 that Charlotte could be interested? Keldon?

[mo7888]

If Charlotte got Duren at 13 that cancels Poeltl, what can Spurs offer for the 15 that Charlotte could be interested? Keldon?

There's not much chance that Duren will be there at 13....he might even be our pick at 9..

[exstatic]

If Charlotte got Duren at 13 that cancels Poeltl, what can Spurs offer for the 15 that Charlotte could be interested? Keldon?

If we can't monetize Poeltl, there's not much use in trading for another FRP in this draft.

[John B]

There's not much chance that Duren will be there at 13....he might even be our pick at 9..

Which is good for us not to have Duren available to Charlotte, but still leaves Williams as their next option. I’d prefer Davis and offer Keldon. I’d really like to get a Davis and Eason off this draft.

[rascal]

Which is good for us not to have Duren available to Charlotte, but still leaves Williams as their next option. I’d prefer Davis and offer Keldon. I’d really like to get a Davis and Eason off this draft.

Sa and Charlotte would have to discuss a trade and wait and see if Portland takes Duren at 7, then the Spurs take Davis at 9 and if Wash takes Williams at 10 then they go ahead with the trade.

If Williams falls to Charlotte at 13 then doubt they make a trade.

[rascal]

They didn't have both picks in February. 15 literally dropped out of the sky into their laps when New Orleans bucked the odds and played in to the playoffs. 15 is free money for them.

Good point Charlotte would be more open to trading one of the picks now.

[exstatic]

Which is good for us not to have Duren available to Charlotte, but still leaves Williams as their next option. I’d prefer Davis and offer Keldon. I’d really like to get a Davis and Eason off this draft.

It all depends on if they're in "win now" mode to try to keep LaMelo from bolting. Developing a drafted big man might take too much time.

[Excessive Egotist]

Sa and Charlotte would have to discuss a trade and wait and see if Portland takes Duren at 7, then the Spurs take Davis at 9 and if Wash takes Williams at 10 then they go ahead with the trade.

If Williams falls to Charlotte at 13 then doubt they make a trade.

Is there talk of Portland staying in the draft? And if so, of drafting a center at 7? Both of those things seem unlikely to me. They'd be provoking Dame to make a trade request.

[exstatic]

Is there talk of Portland staying in the draft? And if so, of drafting a center at 7? Both of those things seem unlikely to me. They'd be provoking Dame to make a trade request.

...and pissing off Nurkic.

[rascal]

Is there talk of Portland staying in the draft? And if so, of drafting a center at 7? Both of those things seem unlikely to me. They'd be provoking Dame to make a trade request.

The best move for Portland is let Dame go and go into rebuild. Trade him to Sac for Ivey and keep 7.

[bluebellmaniac]

Charlotte wouldn't even look at this trade. I know I wouldn't. Poetl (with his situation) + 20 and 25 are not wotrh 13 and 15 in hthis draft.

He didn't say both, he said 13 OR 15. If they need a center, it solves their center need without risk.

[Excessive Egotist]

The best move for Portland is let Dame go and go into rebuild. Trade him to Sac for Ivey and keep 7.

I agree, but they don't give any indication this is their plan.

[CGD]

Is there talk of Portland staying in the draft? And if so, of drafting a center at 7? Both of those things seem unlikely to me. They'd be provoking Dame to make a trade request.

Portland strikes me as team that would take Duren before he get to 9, if they don’t move that pick for an established player.

[John B]

Is there talk of Portland staying in the draft? And if so, of drafting a center at 7? Both of those things seem unlikely to me. They'd be provoking Dame to make a trade request.

Are you hearing Portland rather trade their pick? I’d throw Keldon plus but keep 9.

[mo7888]

Are you hearing Portland rather trade their pick? I’d throw Keldon plus but keep 9.

There have been reports that Portland would prefer to trade the pick for a win now player to pair with Dame.

[John B]

The best move for Portland is let Dame go and go into rebuild. Trade him to Sac for Ivey and keep 7.

Damn that’s a good move. Sac will have another guard though?

[duncan2150]

i don't think Charlotte will be the best trade partner, they probably could have Williams at 13 and they already have some youth with Jones, Bouknight.... they probably don't want another pick.

[John B]

i don't think Charlotte will be the best trade partner, they probably could have Williams at 13 and they already have some youth with Jones, Bouknight.... they probably don't want another pick.

I think they can still use Keldon if we offer. I love Keldon but I would rather get a true PF like Eason at that position.

[duncan2150]

I think they can still use Keldon if we offer. I love Keldon but I would rather get a true PF like Eason at that position.

maybe for Eason, hard to know but for the Hornets Keldon doesn't make too much sense with Bridges already there.