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    He didn't say both, he said 13 OR 15. If they need a center, it solves their center need without risk.
    Read it wrong indeed. Poetl and 20 for 15 is probably the only realistic trade but it all depends on what CHA could get a 13. I don't see them biting at Poetl and 20 for 13 or any other combination unless they're truly despearate. But it's not like they were a Poetl away from contending. They don't need THAT BAD a center tha they'd risk losing a potential star or solid asset for a player that may remotely help them getting swept in the first round. And they can get their center whether in that draft or via other trades anyway. but mayve I'm wrong, we''ll see.

    We have to keep in mind how valuable and costly some of these picks are. Would I personnaly give #13 in htis draft for Poetl and 25? No. Poetl and 20? Hmmm... No. Poetl, 20 and 25? Hmmmmmmm... No.
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    Would be a baaad trade to deal Poetl + 20 for the 13th pick ( i think that Vassell, Murray, KJ or Poetl in order to move a few spots is a bad way to think).

    I think sometimes people overestimates the draft tough i really think they are good players.

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    Read it wrong indeed. Poetl and 20 for 15 is probably the only realistic trade but it all depends on what CHA could get a 13. I don't see them biting at Poetl and 20 for 13 or any other combination.
    I have no idea what the marketplace for picks are, but there's been chatter about #7 for Zach LeVine or Julius Randle. It's not beyond comprehension, if that's true, that Poeltl could get you a 13 or a 15.

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    There's not much chance that Duren will be there at 13....he might even be our pick at 9..
    It seems insane to me to draft a traditional center at 9. Those sort of players, even when good players like Poeltl, can't stay on the floor. They're 20 mpg players.

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    I have no idea what the marketplace for picks are, but there's been chatter about #7 for Zach LeVine or Julius Randle. It's not beyond comprehension, if that's true, that Poeltl could get you a 13 or a 15.
    I haven't a perfect idea either but I guess it's all about rarity. Lavine or Randle are stars/scorers who can change your team, Poetl is mainly a defensive center and a role player you don't build your team around. There might be solid players at 13 and even 15 in this draft so I'm not sure CHA would give them away for a guy who won't make that much of a difference for them even if it's true they need a center.

    Teams tend to really value their lottey pick and might be reluctant to trade them for anything else than a star, not to miss a potential one. Imagine you trade #13 for Poetl and 20 and #13 ends up kicking ass... Indy accepted to take our George Hill for #15 a few years ago who trasnformed into a future HOFer. Not sure they would have taken Nephew at 15 but you get the point.

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    It seems insane to me to draft a traditional center at 9. Those sort of players, even when good players like Poeltl, can't stay on the floor. They're 20 mpg players.
    I think he has alot more upside than a traditional C and a higher ceiling than Poeltl but it'll take a couple years to reach it. Probably doesn't matter because he'll probably be taken before 9 anyway.

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    I think he has alot more upside than a traditional C and a higher ceiling than Poeltl but it'll take a couple years to reach it. Probably doesn't matter because he'll probably be taken before 9 anyway.

    Okay. We see the player differently. I think he is bad pick at 13. Mid to late teens seems appropriate to me, given his age. Otherwise, I'd slot him in the 20s. Do you think he can guard in space or will teams be forced to use drop coverage whenever he is on the floor. Perhaps, I should re-watch his defensive clips.

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    Would be a baaad trade to deal Poetl + 20 for the 13th pick ( i think that Vassell, Murray, KJ or Poetl in order to move a few spots is a bad way to think).

    I think sometimes people overestimates the draft tough i really think they are good players.
    It depends who the Spurs are targeting. At 13, Eason seems available which is a position in need of a bigger body. Additionally, Spurs could try to move Poeltl and his limitations before he gets expensive and get a value for him.

    There are opportunities in this draft with teams trying to “win now” and could need a Poeltl, Keldon, Richardson instead of a rookie that needs developing. I don’t see any Spurs player as untouchable if the return is good.

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    Okay. We see the player differently. I think he is bad pick at 13. Mid to late teens seems appropriate to me, given his age. Otherwise, I'd slot him in the 20s. Do you think he can guard in space or will teams be forced to use drop coverage whenever he is on the floor. Perhaps, I should re-watch his defensive clips.
    I don't think guarding in space will be an issue for him. I've got him 8 overall on my board.

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    I don't think guarding in space will be an issue for him. I've got him 8 overall on my board.
    Well, if you're right and he can switch up top, your assessment seems fair. At this point, I believe a big must be able to space or put a lot of pressure on rim as lob threat & handle switches in order to justify a selection in the top 10.

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    maybe for Eason, hard to know but for the Hornets Keldon doesn't make too much sense with Bridges already there.
    …and PJ Washington. The role of undersized PF is already filled.

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    Well, if you're right and he can switch up top, your assessment seems fair. At this point, I believe a big must be able to space or put a lot of pressure on rim as lob threat & handle switches in order to justify a selection in the top 10.
    I agree...those attributes are part of the reason I have Williams lower than him...#17 on my board

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    I think he has alot more upside than a traditional C and a higher ceiling than Poeltl but it'll take a couple years to reach it. Probably doesn't matter because he'll probably be taken before 9 anyway.
    I agree he’ll go in Top 10. Who ahead of us do you think would take Duren?

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    I agree he’ll go in Top 10. Who ahead of us do you think would take Duren?
    Detroit or another team trading ahead of us..

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    Charlotte needs a center, that’s where this conversation starts… not Richardson.
    Charlotte needs veteran players to support Lamelo and Bridges, and Richardson's defense and shooting would fit in pretty well. Also, if D'Antoni is hired as a coach you can forget about them going for Poeltl, while they might still find value in Richardson.

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    ST on draft day is like a kid on Christmas who wants all the new shiny toys just to kick them into a corner after a few weeks, because they aren’t new & shiny anymore, and cry for more new shiny toys.

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