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    Scratch Eason off our draft board boys. He appears to be a dumbass.


    Or smoke screen from a team who really wants him but afraid he'll be gone... You rarely see that kind of brutal take on a player, much less on a draft candidate... Might be guided by a GM.

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    Dude really doesn't like Davis
    I don't like Davis, nor do I hate him, but I'd hate him at #9.

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    Uninformed gut feeling is we pick Dieng or Mark Williams.
    Hard pass on Mark Williams. I wouldn't touch any of those Duke players.

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    Hope that entices them to trade up to no. 9 with us...
    Spurs better draft Sharpe if he's there at 9.
    They will be kicking themselves if they pass on him.

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    NBC Sports (Zak Hanshew): A.J. Griffin, F, Duke

    Bleacher Report (Greg Swartz): Dyson Daniels, G, G-League Ignite

    USA Today / FTW (Bryan Kalbrosky): Johnny Davis, G, Wisconsin

    Sports Illustrated (Jeremy Woo): Jeremy Sochan, F, Baylor

    Yahoo! Sports (Krysten Peck): Jeremy Sochan, F, Baylor

    ESPN Insider (Jonathan Givony): Jalen Duren, C, Memphis

    The Athletic (Sam Vecenie): A.J. Griffin, F, Duke

    NBC Sports (Raphielle Johnson): A.J. Griffin, F, Duke

    Bleacher Report (Jonathan Wasserman): Johnny Davis, G, Wisconsin

    The Ringer (Kevin O'Connor): Bennedict Mathurin, F, Arizona

    NetScouts Basketball (Carl Berman): Jalen Duren, C, Memphis

    CBS Sports (Kyle Boone): Dyson Daniels, G, G-League Ignite

    CBS Sports (Gary Parrish): Jalen Duren, C, Memphis

    SB Nation (Ricky O’Donnell): Bennedict Mathurin, F, Arizona

    Fantasy Pros (Kyle Williams): Jalen Duren, C Memphis

    Rookie Wire (Cody Taylor): Bennedict Mathurin, F, Arizona



    Feeling cynical at the moment, I'm just going to scratch all those names off and assume we won't draft any of them. Lol. I hope it's not Mark Williams we end up with. Dieng would at least fit a position of need, and is young, and "upside", and skilled. It seems there are some questions about his athleticism so that makes him more likely. Yeah, feeling salty right now. But oddly, I still think there's an outside chance they go for Eason, though not super likely.
    You might be right, but I remember seeing a whole lot of mocks with us picking Vassell in 2020, and then we actually did take him.

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    Hard pass on Mark Williams. I wouldn't touch any of those Duke players.
    Hopefully the Spurs won't draft Mark Williams with any pick.

    Spurs better draft Sharpe if he's there at 9.
    They will be kicking themselves if they pass on him.
    Agreed.

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    [QUOTE=Russ;10753053]Hopefully the Spurs won't draft Mark Williams with any pick.

    I definitely wouldn't be upset with that.

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    Not a huge Jovic fan as I really don’t want to draft any defensive liabilities. Feels like a very Spurs-y pick though at 20 if he’s still on the board.





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    9. Sochan/Eason/Daniels

    20. Eason/Jalen Williams/Beauchamp
    25. Beauchamp/Hardy/EJ Liddell/TyTy

    38. Nebhard/Jabari Walker/Fat Dude with Skills (David Roddy/Trevion Williams/Alondes Williams)

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    Not a huge Jovic fan as I really don’t want to draft any defensive liabilities. Feels like a very Spurs-y pick though at 20 if he’s still on the board.




    Could this be the successful version of Samanic

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    Could this be the successful version of Samanic
    It’s the opposite side of the coin in nearly every respect. Sammich played defense. Jovic doesn’t. Jovic shoots. Sammich couldn’t. Jovic, by all accounts, has a wonderful personality. Sammich was a surly, self centered SOB.

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    Starting to deep dive into Mark Williams and this dude is looking like a better version of Poeltl just based off his advanced metrics. With his size, he should have no issues guarding the best bigs in the league. Looks like an even better shot blocker too while keeping his foul rate low. If there’s a trade to occur to reduce our total FRP to 2, Mark Williams and Jalen Williams plus Alondes Williams in the second round is a great haul.

    The Williams brothers

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    They better draft 1 PF out of all those picks.

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    ^ agree with the defensive PF with size as one of the immediate needs. But also 1. Go-to scorer, and 2. point-of-attack defender. That to me is Johnny Davis, probably the best two-way player on this draft outside of Chet. Then an insurance big man if Spurs are moving Poeltl. I don’t see them playing 4 rookies, so maybe consolidate two picks to move up or get a 4th player with great potential to stash.

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    Starting to deep dive into Mark Williams and this dude is looking like a better version of Poeltl just based off his advanced metrics. With his size, he should have no issues guarding the best bigs in the league. Looks like an even better shot blocker too while keeping his foul rate low. If there’s a trade to occur to reduce our total FRP to 2, Mark Williams and Jalen Williams plus Alondes Williams in the second round is a great haul.

    The Williams brothers
    Last couple weeks Mark Williams has really grown on me tbh if the spurs view him as a younger Jakob or a big that could have an even bigger impact then the 9th pick would be great value for him. Last season when Jakob was off the court we were horrible, if we replaced our backup minutes with a quality big I think it would make a huge impact for our playoff chances. Then grab Best available at the 20th pick or trade 20+25 to move up maybe?

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    Last couple weeks Mark Williams has really grown on me tbh if the spurs view him as a younger Jakob or a big that could have an even bigger impact then the 9th pick would be great value for him. Last season when Jakob was off the court we were horrible, if we replaced our backup minutes with a quality big I think it would make a huge impact for our playoff chances. Then grab Best available at the 20th pick or trade 20+25 to move up maybe?
    Any scenario where we draft a C (and trade Poeltl) in this draft leads to Collins being the starting C at the beginning of the season.

    Also looking at this deeper, there is no way the Spurs would be interested in a C that has a problem staying on the floor due to foul trouble. I think that is one of the biggest issues with Poeltl. Mark is exemplary at this area. No other big in the draft is, while being the defensive anchor that Mark is.

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    Another standout skill Mark Williams has: his hands. Dude is a wide receiver/ volley ball player out there.

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    Don't understand the mini hate on Jovic. Yeah, his defense is suspect but at #20 (or #25) you can get a very capable stretch big who can shoot and pass, from the bench, and and a cool team guy who won't whine for his touches. He might improve on defense too, not like he hadn't the tools.

    That's basically Matt Bonner whith athecism and passing skills. Draft a PF/C at #9 and you're good.

    "Hey Bonner! Look at me, Bonner!"

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    Don't understand the mini hate on Jovic. Yeah, his defense is suspect but at #20 (or #25) you can get a very capable stretch big who can shoot and pass, from the bench, and and a cool team guy who won't whine for his touches. He might improve on defense too, not like he hadn't the tools.

    That's basically Matt Bonner whith athecism and passing skills. Draft a PF/C at #9 and you're good.

    "Hey Bonner! Look at me, Bonner!"
    Having to put up with offense only players with bad D in the form of Forbes and Lonnie, I’m not really up for another one. I wouldn’t hate the pick, but I wouldn’t love it either.

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    Don't understand the mini hate on Jovic. Yeah, his defense is suspect but at #20 (or #25) you can get a very capable stretch big who can shoot and pass, from the bench, and and a cool team guy who won't whine for his touches. He might improve on defense too, not like he hadn't the tools.

    That's basically Matt Bonner whith athecism and passing skills. Draft a PF/C at #9 and you're good.

    "Hey Bonner! Look at me, Bonner!"
    I think Samanic left a bitter after taste as far as international players are concern. Imo I think Jovic is a good character and high bball IQ kind of player. While there’s also a Liddell, LaRavia, Jalen Williams, etc available at that range. Personally, I like Jovic as a stash with high potentials. But I hear he wants to come and play now. I wouldn’t be upset if he’s our 3rd choice, but after addressing Spurs immediate needs.

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    In addition to not being foul prone, Williams is also a competent free throw shooter, a vertical spacer and while he'll likely be limited to drop coverage, he's so long that he'll still be capable of something bothering most pull up shooters.

    I've always liked Poeltl, but going on 27, about to get paid and lacking versatility, it makes sense to cash him in now, get one of the Hornets picks in the package and utilize it on Williams.

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    9th- Mark Williams
    20th- Jovic
    25th- Terry

    Not my favorite draft but looks spursy imo lol I really like Johnny Davis or Dyson Daniels for the spurs but with the work it looks like Devin has put in I can’t seeing us investing in another guard with the lottery pick.

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    If we take Mark Williams with Davis, Daniels and Sochan still on the board, the meltdown in this thread will be hilarious tbh
    Looking forward to it...

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    Uninformed gut speculation/opinion: since Pop finally took over Team USA, he made nice with Coach K and perhaps has a better intel on Duke players. Outside of their stars, they’re a factory for play-the-right-way role players. Tre Jones has been good for a SRP. In this draft: if not Mark Williams (who I am reluctantly making peace with as realistic pick), there’s also Wendell Moore, a former 5 star recruit who is a swiss army knife wing. Even Keels despite has awful measurables has his fans for his high BBIQ.

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    Uninformed gut speculation/opinion: since Pop finally took over Team USA, he made nice with Coach K and perhaps has a better intel on Duke players. Outside of their stars, they’re a factory for play-the-right-way role players. Tre Jones has been good for a SRP. In this draft: if not Mark Williams (who I am reluctantly making peace with as realistic pick), there’s also Wendell Moore, a former 5 star recruit who is a swiss army knife wing. Even Keels despite has awful measurables has his fans for his high BBIQ.
    I don’t think there was a beef with coach K. His beef was with Colangelo. Jerry seemed to think that Pop needed to come to him, hat in hand, and ask for the job. That is NOT the way. He won 5 NBA les, and it was pretty clear that he was going to get the all time win mark if his health held up. You OFFER that person the job.

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