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    Don't understand the mini hate on Jovic. Yeah, his defense is suspect but at #20 (or #25) you can get a very capable stretch big who can shoot and pass, from the bench, and and a cool team guy who won't whine for his touches. He might improve on defense too, not like he hadn't the tools.

    That's basically Matt Bonner whith athecism and passing skills. "Hey Bonner! Look at me, Bonner!"
    We got Bonner at 45 so I don't think a player like him should be taken in the mid 20s, even if he is somewhat more athletic and has passing skills. He sounds like a perfect 38 to me or maybe Keldon 2.0 with athleticism and passing skills.

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    People are projecting their experience with Samanic onto Jovic. It's kind of understandable, but kind of not. tbh

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    Damn look at the schnauz on this kid. A nose that would make Manu proud tbh.



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    Spur fans value Keldon more than other team's front offices so Sac would have no interest in Keldon + 9 for 4.

    Sac would be looking for an all star level player in a deal for 4.
    Which team would be willing to give up a current all star for a player that they dont know what he will become. Some people just want the pick because it is shiny and new. You do realize a current all star is in the top 30ish players correct? (yes I realize 24 make it.) I cant see any team giving up an all star for a #4 pick unless the player wants out and then I would think they get more then the #4 pick. aka #4 plus more picks or players.

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    Damn look at the schnauz on this kid. A nose that would make Manu proud tbh.


    definitely a triangle nose

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    Damn look at the schnauz on this kid. A nose that would make Manu proud tbh.


    You know what they say about guys with big noses... amiright?

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    You know what they say about guys with big noses... amiright?
    the nose knows

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    We got Bonner at 45 so I don't think a player like him should be taken in the mid 20s, even if he is somewhat more athletic and has passing skills. He sounds like a perfect 38 to me or maybe Keldon 2.0 with athleticism and passing skills.
    We didn’t draft Matt Bonner, Toronto did, and he played there until he came here in a trade.

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    We got Bonner at 45 so I don't think a player like him should be taken in the mid 20s, even if he is somewhat more athletic and has passing skills. He sounds like a perfect 38 to me or maybe Keldon 2.0 with athleticism and passing skills.
    He was drafted by Toronto and we he played for 12 years. Most second rd players do not play that long. Most non lottery players probably dont play that long. So if we get him at 20 and he has a solid career then it is a good pick.

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    Damn look at the schnauz on this kid. A nose that would make Manu proud tbh.


    He seems like a great kid. Very unlike Samanic.

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    A lot of interesting forwards projected to go late in the draft tbh. Patrick Baldwin, Justin Lewis, Caleb Houstan, Dominick Barlow, John Butler, Leonard Miller. All have flaws but with the 38th pick they would be excellent value Imo

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    If this is true, then this, combined with timvp’s assertion that they prefer Williams over Duren, would make him the likely pick at #9.

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    If this is true, then this, combined with timvp’s assertion that they prefer Williams over Duren, would make him the likely pick at #9.
    I really hope it's not Williams.

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    If this is true, then this, combined with timvp’s assertion that they prefer Williams over Duren, would make him the likely pick at #9.
    I wonder if the gulf between Duren and Williams is as wide as we think. The main driver for Duren > Williams seems to be age (18.5 v 20), but if you line their metrics up it seems Williams is on the level or in some cases better:

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...-mark-williams

    This would also suggest to me that they’re moving Jakob soon, and prefer the more plug and play of the two. That’s Williams.

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    I like Mark Williams and would be happy with the pick, but wouldn’t the wise thing be just to extend Jakob? He may not get the same opportunity on a different team, he’s making 9 mill/per year right now, just extend him and bump that salary up to 15-16 per year.

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    I wonder if the gulf between Duren and Williams is as wide as we think. The main driver for Duren > Williams seems to be age (18.5 v 20), but if you line their metrics up it seems Williams is on the level or in some cases better:

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...-mark-williams

    This would also suggest to me that they’re moving Jakob soon, and prefer the more plug and play of the two. That’s Williams.
    Duren may project as more mobile in defending the perimeter, but yes, Williams is outright the better of the two right now.

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    Which team would be willing to give up a current all star for a player that they dont know what he will become. Some people just want the pick because it is shiny and new. You do realize a current all star is in the top 30ish players correct? (yes I realize 24 make it.) I cant see any team giving up an all star for a #4 pick unless the player wants out and then I would think they get more then the #4 pick. aka #4 plus more picks or players.
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    He seems like a great kid. Very unlike Samanic.
    Samanic has become the new "He Who Shall Not Be Named"

    Dude couldn't even land a spot on the GLeague team of the ing Knicks

    What a waste

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    Samanic has become the new "He Who Shall Not Be Named"

    Dude couldn't even land a spot on the GLeague team of the ing Knicks

    What a waste
    A rare miss uncharacteristic of the Spurs, and leaving Spurs fan the stigma for European players which we graciously embrace in the past.

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    Larry Brown on Jalen Duren… (Didn’t realize he was an assistant on Memphis team)

    A lot of people compare him to Bam,’’ Brown told The Post from his home in East Hampton. “I spent time with Cal [Kentucky coach John Calipari] when Bam was there. Bam doesn’t shoot 3s either. Jalen is 3 inches taller than Bam.
    “Jalen is like when I was a head coach when he had a center and power forward in the NBA. I always teased him: I wanted him to be like [rugged former Pistons center] Ben Wallace, because he can run with anybody. He really can run. And can move his feet defensively.’’

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    Larry Brown on Jalen Duren… (Didn’t realize he was an assistant on Memphis team)

    A lot of people compare him to Bam,’’ Brown told The Post from his home in East Hampton. “I spent time with Cal [Kentucky coach John Calipari] when Bam was there. Bam doesn’t shoot 3s either. Jalen is 3 inches taller than Bam.
    “Jalen is like when I was a head coach when he had a center and power forward in the NBA. I always teased him: I wanted him to be like [rugged former Pistons center] Ben Wallace, because he can run with anybody. He really can run. And can move his feet defensively.’’
    Huh. Brown will never stop coaching. Anyway the Spurs should have the scuttlebutt on Duren then.

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    I like Mark Williams and would be happy with the pick, but wouldn’t the wise thing be just to extend Jakob? He may not get the same opportunity on a different team, he’s making 9 mill/per year right now, just extend him and bump that salary up to 15-16 per year.
    I don’t know if there’s already a thread whether to extend, trade or what to do with Poeltl timvp. Personally I see his limitations at 26 yrs old, that some of the prospects on this draft are already better than him and with better upsides. His on-man defense is bad especially when matched against a credible big, his FT is bad, very limited offensive skills besides rolling to the basket and hoisting teardrops. I doubt that he will ever be so much better. And what salary commensurates his skills because he will be asking a big raise.
    Last edited by John B; 06-12-2022 at 12:37 PM.

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    I don’t know if there’s already a thread whether to extend, trade or what to do with Poeltl timvp. Personally I see his limitations at 26 yrs old, that some of the prospects on this draft are already better than him and with better upsides. His on-man defense is bad especially when matched against a credible big, his FT is bad, very limited offensively skills besides rolling to the basket and hoisting teardrops. I doubt that he will ever be so much better. And what salary commensurates his skills because he will be asking a big raise.
    About $15M per on an extention probably increases his trade value next summer... you have to weigh it vs what he'd bring this summer on an expiring but cheap contract.. if ot were me I'd trade him now if I got a good return but if the market wouldn't bear it then I'd extend and trade next summer..

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    Personally I’d include him in a trade to move up. There are several prospects in this draft that Spurs could target

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