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    what makes you think those studies are not happening?
    are they done? If not then, it's should not be a treatment.

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    you mentioned statistical significance which is a completely separate thing though. just because some figure in a research paper is less than 5% doesnt make it insignificant. statistical significance comes from whether the "p-value" is greater or lower than 5% or 0.05. p-value is basically a term for calculating the chances that your measured phenomenon is due to random chance or if there is some correlation to the experiment.

    you dont just say "oh this was a difference of 3% and therefore its statistically insignificant."

    same with looking at the prevalence of suicide attempts.

    and if you werent talking about statistical significance and just a more arbitrary use of the word significant, i still think you're way off. taking suicide attempt rates of 10% and reducing them to 3-4... more than cutting them in half, is pretty ing great


    not worth the price, especially when there was no significant association between suicide attempts and surgery when they ran the odds ratio, which makes sense seeing as the difference was only 5%.

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    I'm not socially conservative. I'm pro-choice, pro-gay marriage and atheist. I just think liberals have gone overboard on this niche issue.
    See this is where I disagree with you, I think Dems need to go moar tranny.

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    See this is where I disagree with you, I think Dems need to go moar tranny.
    Moar tranny + more Weather Underground DAs who let cities like San Francisco go to absolute

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    This thread is amazing. Liberals trying to cancel a reasonable liberal ( Will Hunting ) for being reasonable.
    Who is trying to cancel him? There’s people who disagree and they’re debating. Do you even understand the concept of cancelling?

    Funny thing here is that you’re the only one in this thread acting like an emotionally stunted, hormonal child.

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    Arguing against or expressing contrary views = cancellation..

    Oh the puny indignity.

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    are they done? If not then, it's should not be a treatment.
    no medicine/procedure/treatment is subject to having to have decades long studies before becoming authorized. This is patently ridiculous

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    Ok well when you decide to it's there for you. It's it not "insignificant" it's "not significant"
    Whatever it is, you don't seem to get it.

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    This thread is amazing. Liberals trying to cancel a reasonable liberal ( Will Hunting ) for being reasonable.
    no

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    Whatever it is, you don't seem to get it.
    i do, it's there, no statistically significant association, their own table says that. So if it doesn't affect suicide then it doesn't save their lives, if it doesn't save their lives it can wait.

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    This thread is amazing. Liberals trying to cancel a reasonable liberal ( Will Hunting ) for being reasonable.

    It goes over about as well as me telling my conservative friends that Trump did a sh1t job handling COVID - or that I hope DeSantis ousts him in the primary
    You guys always think this is team sports.

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    See this is where I disagree with you, I think Dems need to go moar tranny.
    Oh you mean like Bruce?

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    You don't have to worry because you're the biggest pussy here.
    Throw another hissy fit because I'm replying to you now

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    IDGAF BlaKKKe. You keep trying to get me to open your replies but you're a worthless loser that I don't ing care about. Go dig your grave and bury yourself already you ing loser.

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    Who is trying to cancel him? There’s people who disagree and they’re debating. Do you even understand the concept of cancelling?

    Funny thing here is that you’re the only one in this thread acting like an emotionally stunted, hormonal child.
    LMFAO "debating"... You ing leftists don't debate yall try to force your bs world view on others because you're a loser ass cultist. ing loser!

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    i do, it's there, no statistically significant association, their own table says that. So if it doesn't affect suicide then it doesn't save their lives, if it doesn't save their lives it can wait.
    So they don't actually say that themselves?

    It's your interpretation?

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    LMFAO "debating"... You ing leftists don't debate yall try to force your bs world view on others because you're a loser ass cultist. ing loser!
    Speaking of hormonal teenagers…

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    It's literally what happened with my stepsister (now step brother).

    Graduated from college, never had any thoughts about being trans before, then a year after graduation when her life was going nowhere, she decided that her failure to launch is due to the fact she's a boy trapped in a girl's body...it took her literally one doctor's appointment to start on testosterone therapy.
    Yeah but you're talking about an adult, so wgaf? There's really nothing to debate there, right?

    If it's all about kids then make a kid only do entary. It's in the same arena but still two different things.

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    Throw another hissy fit because I'm replying to you now
    IDGAF BlaKKKe. You keep trying to get me to open your replies but you're a worthless loser that I don't ing care about. Go dig your grave and bury yourself already you ing loser.
    Lol good girl

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    Speaking of hormonal teenagers…
    LMAO always talking behind your alts ya ing pussy.

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    Again BlaKKKe, off and die already you worthless .

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    no medicine/procedure/treatment is subject to having to have decades long studies before becoming authorized. This is patently ridiculous
    2, 2 decades by your own numbers(20-30 years your words), and standard treatments from discovery to market take about 10 years already, with some taking 10-15 so what's another 5-10 years? Especially when trials for children have historically taken longer than for adults, 10 years for adult studies 6 more for children on average, but asking to wait 4 more is "patently ridiculous"

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    LMFAO "debating"... You ing leftists don't debate yall try to force your bs world view on others because you're a loser ass cultist. ing loser!
    Will is probably being doxxed as we speak by some emo, blue haired wolfatarians.

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    2, 2 decades by your own numbers(20-30 years your words), and standard treatments from discovery to market take about 10 years already, with some taking 10-15 so what's another 5-10 years? Especially when trials for children have historically taken longer than for adults, 10 years for adult studies 6 more for children on average, but asking to wait 4 more is "patently ridiculous"
    yes, decades. imagine we waited decades before we started giving people smallpox or polio vaccinations. or more recently, covid vaccines. its just poor practice and impractical. as of now theres no data to suggest it causes long term fertility issues, while the limited data we have now suggests that there arent any issues. hormone replacement therapy is quite different. but weighing that against the proven mental health benefits is something that every physician will and should do

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    Will is probably being doxxed as we speak by some emo, blue haired wolfatarians.
    I wouldn't doubt it and all over a simple thread about a docu that shouldn't even be considered controversial in the least. It's hilarious how they eat their own when they sway from that delusional ideology.

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