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I like Sochan a lot.
his shot doesn’t look totally broken, he isn’t afraid to shoot, a very good defender, solid passer, and high basketball IQ
I can see your logic. So who is your preferred pick at 9 to get?
I like Sochan a lot.
his shot doesn’t look totally broken, he isn’t afraid to shoot, a very good defender, solid passer, and high basketball IQ
What determines high basketball IQ? How do you know his basketball IQ?
Is this a label put on defensive minded players(those guys have high basketball IQ) but not on offensive minded players(those guys are street ballers)?
The Spurs need a couple of high athletic street ballers who can drop 25 points a night and bring excitement on the offensive side of the ball.
I don't really have one, which is partially why I've suggested ad nauseam that they put it in play for a young forward who can be part of the core moving forward.
If they keep it, I'd probably go either Davis or Branham. Griffin's injury history and current loss of mobility is risky; Dieng would equal a project in back to back lotteries and is seemingly low floor; Duren and Williams are seemingly relatively low ceiling and the latter can probably be had further down in a package by trading Poeltl to the Hornets.
We overrating the impact of a defensive specialist contenders have multiple ways to attack you. You put out two way guys with enough offense to not shrink the floor.
Both were drafted with pick 35 in their respective drafts.
No offense but the truth is that we have little no idea of what is what about all the players you're mentioning, specially if we consider they're still kids who will mature differently.
You problably didn't ever heard of Dieng one month ago but now he's low floor", You tag Duren and Williams "low ceiling" who are projected higher in all the mock drafts than Branham that you still you claim better yet... We play the little scouts and experts here about players who barely ever watched (and please don't tell me you did) only from twitter clips and "pundits"...
And that "Im sure or probably CHA would take JAk for their 13/15 pick" is becoming a gimmick, tbh. We're sure of nothing. We don't know.
I mean these NBA GMs have a ton of data, vids and interviews about these players and they're still not sure... So a bunch of ers on a forum. I mean it's OK to have opinions or feelings but any definitive, ultimate judgment about these kids is vain.
Last edited by JPB; 06-15-2022 at 06:30 AM.
I don't know what the fascination with Dieng is on this board that some want him at 9. He doesn't look strong and aggressive to me, opting for weak floater shots instead of attacking the rim for dunks.
Of course no one knows what will happen and its all speculation which player will be great/good or a bust and its all opinions and rumors on this board.
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The purpose of a message board is so fans can commiserate and share opinions. Of course there's nothing definitive about this (including by the front offices that people like you worship at the altar of) and I've never claimed differently.
If you read my posts carefully, I always use terms like seemingly, more than likely, possibly, etc. based on a combination of my own knowledge and what I've accrued from those I read/listen to.
Fans like you are the worst. You contribute nothing of substance while criticizing those who do, all so you can play holier than though by telling us things we already know.
Last edited by TD 21; 06-15-2022 at 09:11 AM.
As much as I hate Donkey, he has high BBall IQ who sees plays developing and reacts timely offensively and defensively, and often times facilitate and communicate. And true, he would be nowhere near effective without Curry and Klay. Sochan is the same and could be as valuable, and could even be an All-Star in that regard. He’s loud out there and has the same swagger. And could very well be the defensive achor like Donkey. We missed that when Timmy left. Poeltl should’ve been the defensive anchor, but often times he folds against better big men and his overhelping caused demoralizing dunks. He lacks the motor to give 100% all game. I think Sochan is a good pick for that purpose.
Again IF Spurs only had one pick on this draft, I’d use it on Sochan and plug it on last years group, hoping Devin and Keldon have made the leap. Sochan would start at 4 seamlessly.
Kind of sounds like Ben Simmons without being a headcase to me.
Dieng reminds me of Diaw. He has handles, can facilitate and can do a lot out there. It’s that nostalgia of having another Diaw back. Right now Dieng is still very young but the promise is there for a big rewards if he continues his trajectory. Not to mention he is a position of need. I like the kid also and if they’re right about him, he could be a steal even at 9. And if Spurs play it right and draft Wembanyama next year, there goes your French Connection
Drafting Sochan would create a couple of positive things for the spurs. Stick him him in the starting lineup and he probably bumps wannabe PF McNuggets (if he's still around) to the 2nd team (which would be a positive move)who then pushes someone to the third team and then someone off the team (addition then subtraction). Sochan may not give you as many points as McNuggets, but he plays much better defense. He may not cut or hit the 3 like McNuggets, but he will give you more rebounding and can probably stay with his man much better.
He isn't my favorite pick at 9, but I can see the positives. Drafting him won't be a home run, but but it will definitely improve the team and it might get us from the play in to the play offs.
I'm very confident Sochan will be the pick at 9 and especially since I don't want him as the pick at 9.
The spurs were 14 games below .500 with no significant injuries. That was not a good season, one key injury and the the Spurs will be a bottom five team, that's how weak the talent on the roster is.
I don't think Sochan gets the Spurs into the playoffs as the key player acquisition the Spurs make as other teams in the west will be improving more than the Spurs. There will be a lot of player movement and teams will change.
You think a career 8 point scorer(Diaw) is good for the 9th pick?Dieng reminds me of Diaw. He has handles, can facilitate and can do a lot out there. It’s that nostalgia of having another Diaw back. Right now Dieng is still very young but the promise is there for a big rewards if he continues his trajectory. Not to mention he is a position of need. I like the kid also and if they’re right about him, he could be a steal even at 9. And if Spurs play it right and draft Wembanyama next year, there goes your French Connection
Strength training is pretty straightforward. Teams already prefected adding explosive strength on skinny guys. He is very fluid and coordinated for that size that is why some see Paul George and nic Batum.
1st in contested shots in the NBA, 4th in screen assists. I wouldn't say that he doesn't give 100% on defense and offense.
Yup that’s the frustration on Diaw with all his natural gifts, but his laissez-faire at ude with his flip-flops and coffee. You got me there. A richman version of Diaw?
Diaw’s skill set.Yup that’s the frustration on Diaw with all his natural gifts, but his laissez-faire at ude with his flip-flops and coffee. You got me there. A richman version of Diaw?
Here we go again with the stats on Poeltl. I’ll give him the screen assist. He is very good at screening and rolling to the rim. But don’t tell me he gives 100% every night, please. Maybe in contract year or when Pop lights his behind. If only Poeltl had Ewwbanks motor.
2003 draft by career WS:
1) LeBron James
2) Dwayne Wade
3) Carmelo Anthony
4) Chris Bosh
5) David West
6) Kyle Korver
7) Zaza Pachulia
8) Kirk Hinrich
9) Boris Diaw
12) Matt Bonner
21) Keith Bogans
23) T.J. Ford
Five of the twelve have been Spurs.
My favorite post of the year!
I agree with some of your points. I've seen you say that Spurs should be willing to trade to move up. What players / assets would you be willing to give up to move up from 9, and who would you realistically draft as a result of moving up?
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