The Official January 6 Committee hearing(s) thread

[ElNono]

Exactly, Jan 6 wasn't a coup nor a coup attempt.

Of course it was.

[ElNono]

Only an idiot or someone with a stake in the outcome would consider that a coup attempt. Do you think those who entered the capital building thought they were going to overthrow the government? With what, cell phones? If there were behind the scenes actors in high places, that could be construed as a coup attempt but those on the ground? Nah.. just a smoke screen.

Worked in Sri Lanka.

[Spurminator]

If there were behind the scenes actors in high places, that could be construed as a coup attempt

You're literally describing the Jan 6 hearings that you've boasted about not watching.

[DMC]

[DMC]

Left: "It was a lift attempt! Who cares there's no way it could be done by that person, it was an attempt!"

[Trill Clinton]

tbh

[ElNono]

This is pretty ironic, tbh... what 'facts' would those be?

You know what's a fact? There's people being tried and also already convicted for seditious conspiracy based on the Jan 6th insurrection.

https://www.live5news.com/2022/03/02...-capitol-riot/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...ous-conspiracy
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leade...conspiracy-and

We're only fortunate that DC has very strict gun laws around the capitol and we had a patriot killing a terrorist inside the Capitol, tbh...

[DMC]

This is pretty ironic, tbh... what 'facts' would those be?

You know what's a fact? There's people being tried and also already convicted for seditious conspiracy based on the Jan 6th insurrection.

https://www.live5news.com/2022/03/02...-capitol-riot/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...ous-conspiracy
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leade...conspiracy-and

We're only fortunate that DC has very strict gun laws around the capitol and we had a patriot killing a terrorist inside the Capitol, tbh...

Seditious conspiracy is a crime in various jurisdictions of conspiring against the authority or legitimacy of the state. As a form of sedition, it has been described as a serious but lesser counterpart to treason, targeting activities that undermine the state without directly attacking it.


coup
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a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
"he was overthrown in an army coup"

Not a coup attempt

[ElNono]

Seditious conspiracy is a crime in various jurisdictions of conspiring against the authority or legitimacy of the state. As a form of sedition, it has been described as a serious but lesser counterpart to treason, targeting activities that undermine the state without directly attacking it.


coup
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a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
"he was overthrown in an army coup"

Not a coup attempt

Of course it is:

Eleven members of the Oath Keepers, including leader Stewart Rhodes, were charged with seditious conspiracy in January 2022 for planning to violently oppose the certification of the 2020 Electoral College results in the 2021 United States Capitol attack. By the following May three Oath Keeper members had pled guilty to the charges. In June 2022 five Proud Boys leaders, including their former chairman Enrique Tarrio, were similarly charged.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-indict...ry?id=82245950
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...case-rcna27294

The seditious charge is for planning the attack. The attack itself carried additional charges, like obstruction of an official proceeding, which they also plead guilty to.

The fact that the attack was carried out by a minority of unprepared re s and that it wasn't successful doesn't make it any less of a coup.

[koriwhat]

Lmao a coup with no guns just Trump flagpoles.

[Spurminator]

Seditious conspiracy is a crime in various jurisdictions of conspiring against the authority or legitimacy of the state. As a form of sedition, it has been described as a serious but lesser counterpart to treason, targeting activities that undermine the state without directly attacking it.


coup
/ko͞o/
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Amerindian
Pathology
noun
1.
a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
"he was overthrown in an army coup"

Not a coup attempt

Now do "attempt."

Oops, sorry, did I respond out of turn and create another "echo chamber" ?

[Blake]

Seditious conspiracy is a crime in various jurisdictions of conspiring against the authority or legitimacy of the state. As a form of sedition, it has been described as a serious but lesser counterpart to treason, targeting activities that undermine the state without directly attacking it.


coup
/ko͞o/
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Amerindian
Pathology
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1.
a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
"he was overthrown in an army coup"

Not a coup attempt

using a dictionary to back up your claims of what happened

[ChumpDumper]

DMC getting destroyed per par

[DarrinS]

Coup.

[DMC]

Of course it is:

Eleven members of the Oath Keepers, including leader Stewart Rhodes, were charged with seditious conspiracy in January 2022 for planning to violently oppose the certification of the 2020 Electoral College results in the 2021 United States Capitol attack. By the following May three Oath Keeper members had pled guilty to the charges. In June 2022 five Proud Boys leaders, including their former chairman Enrique Tarrio, were similarly charged.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-indict...ry?id=82245950
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...case-rcna27294

The seditious charge is for planning the attack. The attack itself carried additional charges, like obstruction of an official proceeding, which they also plead guilty to.

The fact that the attack was carried out by a minority of unprepared re s and that it wasn't successful doesn't make it any less of a coup.

Meanings of words worthless now because "echo chamber".

[DMC]

Essentially, three parameters are used to judge whether an insurrection is a coup event:

1) Are the perpetrators agents of the state, such as military officials or rogue governmental officials? (no, not those who entered the capital building)

2) Is the target of the insurrection the chief executive of the government? (no, that was Donald Trump)

3) Do the plotters use illegal and uncons utional methods to seize executive power? (no again)

[ChumpDumper]

Again, DMC redasses his ignorance of current events. Only wants to play his little reindeer games because we are laughing at him.

Read a paper, dude.

[ElNono]

Essentially, three parameters are used to judge whether an insurrection is a coup event:

1) Are the perpetrators agents of the state, such as military officials or rogue governmental officials? (no, not those who entered the capital building)

2) Is the target of the insurrection the chief executive of the government? (no, that was Donald Trump)

3) Do the plotters use illegal and uncons utional methods to seize executive power? (no again)

The insurrection directly targeted the transfer of power of the executive by illegal and uncons utional means.

I will give you that how people define a coup is subject to ample debate by scholars.

You posted the opinion of Jonathan Powell and Clayton Thyne, and there's also other independent scholars and projects that have a different view (ie: link)

[Winehole23]

Coup.

what do you call it when someone loses an election and then tries to remain in power past their term?

[Winehole23]

(there's a word for that. it's an autocoup.)

[Spurs Homer]

lololol

Defending
Muh
Coup traitors

[Winehole23]

(there's a word for that. it's an autocoup.)

for Merriam-Webster'sinsisters, it's a kind of coup d'etat.

whatever else one might say about it, it begins by setting a popular election aside.

[Winehole23]

Or attempting to

[Winehole23]

Trump got his legal due process to challenge and lost 59 times. Exogenous suits also failed. To continue past that point is the MO of the tyrant who won't accept his duly certified by the 50 states loss.

[Winehole23]

If you want to say a vote duly certified by the 50 states and the US Congress has no value, now would be a good stand and speak your peace.

Sound off, deniers and nullifiers.