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New report finds evidence that Russia used torture chambers and civilians as human shields in Ukraine
A new report from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe do ents the discovery of torture chambers at a summer camp in Bucha, Ukraine.

This report — OSCE's second one — covered the period between April 1 to June 25. The OSCE experts traveled to Ukraine to collect evidence, including visiting the towns of Bucha and Irpin, which the report said were “two emblematic examples of the breaches of International Humanitarian Law under the Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols, which cons ute war crimes.”

The experts noted that photographic and video evidence showed Russian forces carried out “targeted, organized killings of civilians in Bucha” who were found shot dead with their hands tied behind their backs.

The report do ented a “series of torture chambers separated by concrete walls” discovered at a summer camp in Bucha, including a room that the report said appeared to be used for executions with bullet holes in the walls.

In another room where experts said there was evidence of torture and waterboarding, five dead men were found. “They were covered with burns, bruises, and lacerations,” the report said.

In a village in the Bucha district, the bodies of 18 men, women and children were discovered in a basement.

The report said that “some had their ears cut off, while others had their teeth pulled out.”
The OSCE mission wrote that reports of women and girls being raped and sexually abused by Russian forces “have become abundant,” especially in territories newly occupied by Russian forces.

The report noted several particularly atrocious cases, including a report from the Ukrainian Commissioner for Human Rights Lyudmyla Denisova, who said that 25 girls aged 14 to 24 years old were kept in a basement in Bucha and gang-raped. Nine became pregnant, the report said.

The report also do ented instances of Ukrainian civilians being used as “human shields,” being forced to fight alongside Russians against their own country in the ongoing war and being displaced to Russia without their consent.

The report noted: “Russian soldiers used over 300 Ukrainian civilians as human shields and held them captive for 25 days in March in the basement of Yahidne School, where a major Russian military camp was located.”

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news...57608044509206

Well, you stupid asses couldn't figure out the (human shields) for 5 months!

[Ef-man]

Yup, we are in day 141 of russian winning (in a 3-5 day special operation).

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Welcome back, buddy-boy.

Let us proceed...

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"This time dude; right-between-the-eyes."

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[horseshue]

I read HIMARS, etc artillery have destroyed so many Pootin weapons stores that Pootin's artillery is shooting a lot less

Will get wonderful when Ukraine's get new air defense up and downing Pootin's jets.

Rumors has it, that russian jets or choppers hasn't crossed front line for almost three months. Air defense is already working better than expected.

[horseshue]

You still don't know the difference between winning and losing.
Russia cannot lose. They can only decide to stop playing.

Military victory is achieving goals, that was the reason of starting the war. If you remember, it was demilitarise and de-nazify ukraine. Have they reached those goals?
Did you know that finland was considered winner of winter war, althought it lost 10% of it's territory? How so? Can you explain that?

[ElNono]

Terrorists striking civilians per par....smh

[Ef-man]

Good story on russian ammo depots getting hammered by Joe's HIMARS plus covers old topic of poor russian logistics and it leading to revealing the depot locations.



Another Russian reporter, Roman Sapenkov, said he witnessed the strike at the weekend on the Russian base at Kherson's airport.

"I was struck by the fact that the whole packet, five or six rockets, landed practically on a penny. Usually MLRS lands in a wide area, and at maximum range they scatter like a fan," he wrote, referring to multiple launch rocket systems that are less advanced than HIMARS or the M777.

Targeting may also have been made easier by the way the Russian military stores and moves its weapons.

One problem for the Russians may be the way they transport munitions, which is where the humble pallet comes into play.

Few Russian military trucks include a crane to lift heavy munitions, which are rarely carried on pallets but loaded and unloaded by hand. Plenty of ageing Soviet ZIL trucks have been seen in Ukraine.

Moving weapons and ammunition this way is bersome, time-consuming and potentially gives enemy surveillance a greater opportunity to detect such shipments. By contrast, the UK and US militaries palletize much of their ammunition or carry it in containers.

The Russians left a ludicrously easy to locate, major supply depot exactly where someone would expect to find it.

https://www.cnn.com/ukraine-western-weapons-russia-front-lines-intl

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Rumors has it

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Good story on russian ammo depots getting hammered by Joe's HIMARS plus covers old topic of poor russian logistics and it leading to revealing the depot locations.



Another Russian reporter, Roman Sapenkov, said he witnessed the strike at the weekend on the Russian base at Kherson's airport.

"I was struck by the fact that the whole packet, five or six rockets, landed practically on a penny. Usually MLRS lands in a wide area, and at maximum range they scatter like a fan," he wrote, referring to multiple launch rocket systems that are less advanced than HIMARS or the M777.

Targeting may also have been made easier by the way the Russian military stores and moves its weapons.

One problem for the Russians may be the way they transport munitions, which is where the humble pallet comes into play.

Few Russian military trucks include a crane to lift heavy munitions, which are rarely carried on pallets but loaded and unloaded by hand. Plenty of ageing Soviet ZIL trucks have been seen in Ukraine.

Moving weapons and ammunition this way is bersome, time-consuming and potentially gives enemy surveillance a greater opportunity to detect such shipments. By contrast, the UK and US militaries palletize much of their ammunition or carry it in containers.

The Russians left a ludicrously easy to locate, major supply depot exactly where someone would expect to find it.

https://www.cnn.com/ukraine-western-weapons-russia-front-lines-intl

Hey, buddy-boy, welcome back.

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Military victory is achieving goals, that was the reason of starting the war. If you remember, it was demilitarise and de-nazify ukraine. Have they reached those goals?

We didn't even know Z'Land had Nazi's...State run media CNN and the American gov't said nary a word about Nazi's in Z'Land till Putin blew the whistle on the lot of 'em.

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Military victory is achieving goals, that was the reason of starting the war. If you remember, it was demilitarise and de-nazify ukraine. Have they reached those goals?
Did you know that finland was considered winner of winter war, althought it lost 10% of it's territory? How so? Can you explain that?

Russia can easily say they have disrupted the Nazi movement in Ukraine and that their mission is completed. There's no measuring stick for it. Ukraine can only claim moral victories if any at all.

[DMC]

Terrorists striking civilians per par....smh

Normal day in Chicago

[DMC]

Yup, we are in day 141 of russian winning (in a 3-5 day special operation).

Show the other side's scoreboard.

[DMC]

Vinny!!!!!!!!!

According to Ukraine forces, there wasn't a single loss in that.

[horseshue]

Russia can easily say they have disrupted the Nazi movement in Ukraine and that their mission is completed. There's no measuring stick for it. Ukraine can only claim moral victories if any at all.

So you are saying that russia can't loose, because they claim so.
If anything, this war will create more nazi or other anti russian extremists in not only ukraine but all over eastern europe. You can sugarcoat russian invasion as much as you like, but in reality it is a disaster for them. Without full mobilisation there is no way they can win.
Now they are stuck in no man's land.
Ukraine has defeated russians in the north and destroyed majority of it's best units and reduced the front to mainly east and south.
So yes, ukraine so far in this war has seen more victories than russia, if you consider the actual goals of both sides at the beginning, even if you think that those are just moral victories.

[horseshue]

According to Ukraine forces, there wasn't a single loss in that.

Does it look like a military object? I know that you have never been in former soviet union, so let me educate you. That building is typical soviet nine storry building with convenience store on it's side. And according to ukrainian media there are 23 dead people. Do you approve this?

[DMC]

So you are saying that russia can't loose, because they claim so.
If anything, this war will create more nazi or other anti russian extremists in not only ukraine but all over eastern europe. You can sugarcoat russian invasion as much as you like, but in reality it is a disaster for them. Without full mobilisation there is no way they can win.
Now they are stuck in no man's land.
Ukraine has defeated russians in the north and destroyed majority of it's best units and reduced the front to mainly east and south.
So yes, ukraine so far in this war has seen more victories than russia, if you consider the actual goals of both sides at the beginning, even if you think that those are just moral victories.

It doesn't matter what the West says here, given the amount of Ukraine support from the West it would be pretty easy to dismiss anything from the West as more propaganda. Russia could only lose if Russia loses something. If I barge into your house looking for your jewelry, destroy your property and kill your family, did I lose because your jewelry was in a vault? Did you win?

[DMC]

Does it look like a military object? I know that you have never been in former soviet union, so let me educate you. That building is typical soviet nine storry building with convenience store on it's side. And according to ukrainian media there are 23 dead people. Do you approve this?

Since when did countries like Ukraine clearly differentiate between military and civilian structures when housing troops or conducting military business?

It doesn't matter what I approve of, no one in Russia asked for approval. If you just want moral handwringing you won't get it from me.

[horseshue]

It doesn't matter what the West says here, given the amount of Ukraine support from the West it would be pretty easy to dismiss anything from the West as more propaganda. Russia could only lose if Russia loses something. If I barge into your house looking for your jewelry, destroy your property and kill your family, did I lose because your jewelry was in a vault? Did you win?

What are the west saying?
As i said, russia, or more specific putin is stuck in no man's land. He can't retreat because he went all in, and now, when loses of his military equipment are piling up, he must get something to sell as a win domestically. In russia's autocratic regime he is the one risking everything.
Your analogy of breaking into house and killing everyone doesn't quiet work here, because russians may have broken into ukrainian house with intent to kill them and loot their jewelry, but because of ukrainian resistence, all they are getting is a toaster, and that is a success.

[horseshue]

Since when did countries like Ukraine clearly differentiate between military and civilian structures when housing troops or conducting military business?

It doesn't matter what I approve of, no one in Russia asked for approval. If you just want moral handwringing you won't get it from me.

Noone is housing troops in nine story building in the middle of big city. There is no logic. Where is all the military equipment, cars, trucks, fence, weapons? Do you see them?
Do you think locals would approve the military base in the middle of their city? Would you approve? And if you would, how do you think they get there? By foot?

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Russia can easily say they have disrupted the Nazi movement in Ukraine and that their mission is completed. There's no measuring stick for it. Ukraine can only claim moral victories if any at all.

They killed or maimed about 100k Nazi fighters.

Thats a pretty pretty good mission imo